Joint Defense Agreement: Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, news & updates

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A Turkmen governor (Muhammed Seman Ağa from the Iraqi Turkmen Front) has been elected in Kirkuk, Iraq, for the first time in 102 years

The Turkiye-Iraq Development Road is a strategic 1,200 km transit corridor connecting Iraq’s Grand Faw Port to Türkiye and Europe via high-speed railways and multi-lane highways





Israel wants to destroy Arab Countries , on the other hand Turkiye is working to develop Arab countries

 

[hodor]

1. It is not surprising that previous attempts failed. Countries without their own defense industry depend on foreign sources.
2. The fact that Turkey has not fought Israel so far does not mean it will not fight in the future. We Turks have avoided entering a full scale war for 100 years. We have been working hard to develop our defense industry for the last 60 years.
3. This alliance is not against anyone, but countries that cause instability and terrorism are uncomfortable with it.

 

[Trisolaran]

Its a defence Pact, Somaliland would literally have to attack Pakistan, KSA or Turkiye. Is that realistic?

Neither Turkiye,Pakistan or KSA would send their troops to fight in Somaliland.. This region will have proxy war and we will support Somalian army.. NATO is also "defence" pact and Israel also "defend" itself everyday by bombing dozens of countries.. We will defend ourself in Somali, than in Yemen by supporting Anti UAE/İsrael/Iranian proxies

 

[flyingorca]

With all due respect to you as a member here but once Turkey attacks israel once in their history we can discuss how strong Turkey is, other than that , the only countries that attacked israel are ( Egypt-Jordan-Syria-Iran-Lebanon-Iraq-Yemen) and other countries participated with their troops to help us like ( Pakistan for sure - North Korea-Algeria-Cuba-Libya-Sudan-Tunisia-Kuwait and the soviet union).

All those countries who have attacked Israel did no significant long term damage, infact it only made Israel occupy more territories.
Turkey and Pakistan will only fight Israel if they are directly attacked by them and the result will not be in Israel's favor.

 

[Trisolaran]

1. It is not surprising that previous attempts failed. Countries without their own defense industry depend on foreign sources.
2. The fact that Turkey has not fought Israel so far does not mean it will not fight in the future. We Turks have avoided entering a full scale war for 100 years. We have been working hard to develop our defense industry for the last 60 years.
3. This alliance is not against anyone, but countries that cause instability and terrorism are uncomfortable with it.

We didnt avoid major wars tbh..

We were ready to go war with Greece in 1974 for Cyprus, They backed off
We were ready for another with Greece in 1994, against they backed off
We send army to Syrian border in 1999 and was about to invade them for their part in hiding Öcalan.. And again they backed off..

 

[Ravenman]

Defense pact between Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Pakistan will boost India-Israel ties | The Jerusalem Post

Ties with Greece and Cyprus are also likely to benefit from the agreement, with Athens and Nicosia as concerned about an expanded Turkish footprint in the eastern Mediterranean as Jerusalem is.

www.jpost.com

Countermove is coming.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

LOL.

This is the biggest problem for many countries in the world today. ------ They believe that if the Chinese can do it (develop from an extremely poor country into a world power), then we can do it too.

However, no one has seriously considered: How exactly did the Chinese do it? What price did they pay?

I often ask my Pakistani friends on this forum a question: What price are you willing to pay for your ideal Pakistan? But no one answers this question.

You may be right, but they still have to try.

 

[Pakistani Dragon]

Before people get carried away with this latest "Muslim Nato".

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The Islamic Military Counter Terrorism Coalition (IMCTC) was established as a security and counter-terrorism coalition—not as a military alliance.

Even back then, the usual anti-Pakistan and anti-military Shaikh Chillis were quick to claim that it was some sort of “Muslim NATO” created to counter Iran.

Islamic Military Counter Terrorism Coalition

 

[Pakistani Dragon]

lol, this guy thinks the legislature in Egpyt isn't a rubber stamp on the Pharoah. lol

He happens to be another pro-IRGC fella wishing for Iranian missiles to fall on his own homeland, Egypt.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Some people think so small it's ridiculous

If their were limitations or faults in the past, do we just sit down forever and say we can't do anything


Or do we try to attempt to change the future and find solutions

For some reason so many have tiny closed minds, always looking for barriers when we need to find new routes to success and make our countries better

Yeah clowns, let's do nothing for another 100 years and let the idol worshippers and Zionists target and kill us

OR

Let's try to find ways to create a powerful alliance that EVENTUALLY could turn into something that can defend the Muslim world and hammer our enemies

EXAXTLY!!!!!!.................Unfortunately there seems to be some Pakistanis here who only seem to be happy when Pakistan and Pakistanis are suffering. These self-hating Pakistanis are ONLY happy if Pakistan was subservient to india, israel and the enemies of Islam. They want Pakistanis to be a subjugated slave race. Any moves to prevent that hurts them. These self-hating Pakistanis are ALSO the same people who claim that "Pakistanis and indians are the same people "...........

 

[Yasser76]

You're a mod , right? Can you be a role model and respectful ?
Because i answer you respectfuly.

Your posts show so much disrespect to other countries, now you demand respect yourself.

It has to be earned. Likes from @Watandar and @030292 wont get you any credit. Those clowns will laugh or like anything anti-Pak

 

[BaybarsHan]

This pact will contribute to greater security in the Middle East. The founding states and their allied countries will no longer be easy targets. Pakistan and Turkey were already very stable; now their stability has at least tripled. Which countries in the region are against this pact that brings more stability and security? It is precisely those countries that spread insecurity; they benefit most when the Middle East is constantly embroiled in small wars and insecurity prevails. Israel and Iran, plus their allies UAE, Yemen, etc., are naturally against this pact. Because, InsaAllah it will bring more security for everyone.

 

[Yasser76]

Intreresting call so soon afterwards. My guess is Kuwaitis will be soon joining, they basicaly do whatever the Saudis do anyway

Kuwait felicitates Pakistan on Makkah defence deal

FO says DPM Dar, Kuwait foreign minister also "exchanged views on the regional situation, including occupied East Jerusalem”.

www.dawn.com

 

[Yasser76]

Looks like Iran has accepted this alliance

 

[Pakistani Dragon]

... Hard Defense and Cold War Alliances

• The Baghdad Pact / CENTO (1955): A pro-Western military alliance comprising Iraq, Turkey, Pakistan, Iran, and the United Kingdom. It sought to prevent Soviet expansion in the Middle East but disintegrated after Iraq withdrew following its 1958 revolution. [1]

It prevented the spread of communism in the Middle East, and successfully served it's intended purpose.

• The Arab Joint Defense and Economic Cooperation Treaty (1950): Signed by early members of the Arab League (including Egypt, Iraq, Syria, and Saudi Arabia), this pact contained an explicit mutual defense clause stating that an attack on one signatory was an attack on all. However, it suffered from profound political divisions and failed to foster real military unity during regional conflicts.

Internal Arab military alliance.

• Saudi-Pakistani Bilateral Defense Pacts (1982 & September 2025): Pakistan has provided military training, protocols, and thousands of troops to safeguard Saudi territory for decades. This relationship was deeply formalized with a bilateral Strategic Mutual Defence Agreement, which laid the direct operational foundation for Turkey to join the framework. [1, 2, 3]

Strong as always 44-years on. What's the complaint?

Counter-Terrorism and Coalition Frameworks

• Islamic Military Counter Terrorism Coalition (IMCTC, 2015): A pan-Islamic coalition initiated by Saudi Arabia that grew to include over 40 Muslim-majority countries, including Pakistan and Turkey. It focuses primarily on intelligence sharing, ideology combat, and counter-terrorism funding rather than conventional state-versus-state mutual defense. [1]

Still serving it's purpose 11-years on.

• The Peninsula Shield Force (1984): The joint military arm of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC), consisting of Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, and Bahrain. While it serves as a collective defense force for the Gulf monarchies, its scope is strictly regional and it lacks the pan-Islamic scale or nuclear/industrial dimensions of the newer alliance. ...

Internal Arab/GCC security alliance.

You can judge for yourself how successful all these have been

So, in total there have been 4 military alliances and 1 security alliance established since 1950. Now judge the following:

Alliance​	Type​	Purpose​	Status​	Outcome​	Notes​
Arab Joint Defense and Economic Cooperation Treaty (1950)	Military/Defence	Arab NATO	Active	Failure	Never militarily integrated
Baghdad Pact / CENTO (1955)	Military/Defence	Prevent spread of Communism in Middle East	Abolished	Success	Dissolved in 1979 due to the Iranian Revolution and its withdrawal.
Saudi-Pakistani Bilateral Defense Pacts (1982 & September 2025)	Military/Defence	Mutual Pacts	Active	Success	Always active. Used number of times
Peninsula Shield Force (1984) Restructured as Unified Military Command (2013)	Military/Defence	Collective-defence of the GCC	Active	Success	Binding since the Joint Defence Agreement of 2000. Used in Bahrain in 2011.
Islamic Military Counter Terrorism Coalition (IMCTC, 2015)	Security/Anti-terror	Counter-terrorism	Active	Success	Work in progress