Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Tumba]

I think only way forward for US and Iran is to open up Iran for world trade and get solid insurance on nukes(which current Iranian regime more or less agree anyway), a opened up Iran will be much more beneficial to US in long run than a forever war Iran.

 

[KAL-EL]

I think only way forward for US and Iran is to open up Iran for world trade and get solid insurance on nukes(which current Iranian regime more or less agree anyway), a opened up Iran will be much more beneficial to US in long run than a forever war Iran.

totally agree with this ^^

 

[Immortals]

Ghalibaf has surrendered and wants the irgc and khameni jr on board.. sometimes war won in battlefield are lost on table.

Qalibaf bet his political fortune on MoU. He personally went to Islamabad and spent 6+ hours trying to negotiate with JD Vance becoming the first Iranian politician to directly engage a U.S. vice president in decades.

The issue is MoU flopped and now Qalibaf looks naive and unserious as a playmaker in the eyes of others in the Republic since Mojtaba and IRGC were skeptical of this whole deal.

So his only hope is to revive the MoU and implement it to show he was right all along. Or else he will face the same fate in the system as Rouhani and Zarif after JCPOA failed in its objectives for Iran, now they are deflated and writing OP-EDs in western journalism.

 

[Professor Jiang]

I think only way forward for US and Iran is to open up Iran for world trade and get solid insurance on nukes(which current Iranian regime more or less agree anyway), a opened up Iran will be much more beneficial to US in long run than a forever war Iran.

I mean, it's not like Iran hasn't tried to do this for literally decades.

 

[kobra]

 

[Ali_Baba]

Rubbish - why not use your weapons you own to damage the "enemy" when your country is taking over $300 billion of damage? Seriously - where did the Iranian Armed forces learn their battle tactics from?

 

[Immortals]

Rubbish - why not use your weapons you own to damage the "enemy" when your country is taking over $300 billion of damage? Seriously - where did the Iranian Armed forces learn their battle tactics from?

The weapon system that individual refers to was not mass produced due to high cost of its engine and difficulty in replicating the original KH-55 performance vs cost metrics. In short, Iran failed to produce a modern equivalent of the KH-55. They ended up building other derivatives but this specific variant never made it to mass production.

Thus it likely wasn’t used in the war because it wouldn’t have changed the battlefield materially and also because the air defense shield of the Arabs and Americans was still strong enough to be able to intercept sub sonic long range cruise missiles. It made much more economic sense to use the thousands of Shaheeds instead.

They may use it on energy sites if the war escalates or select HVTs. But there numbers are likely below 250 missiles produced and their survivability is questioned. Won’t change the war.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Shags101]

Honestly aipac is the best starting point but so many other organizations or big name donors need to start hemorrhaging

 

[Immortals]

 

[Immortals]

 

[KAL-EL]

The Iranian leadership keeps saying it's an escalation and they are basically going to go all out, but they haven't gone all out in a while.

 

[Immortals]

 

[kobra]

Rubbish - why not use your weapons you own to damage the "enemy" when your country is taking over $300 billion of damage? Seriously - where did the Iranian Armed forces learn their battle tactics from?

Not showing every card at once is not rubbish, just saying... Its a long war...

 

[Flotilla]

The Iranian leadership keeps saying it's an escalation and they are basically going to go all out, but they haven't gone all out in a while.

Nobody is talking about the price of having dozens of military aircrafts flying constantly in SoH to make this oil flow.

How much time can US have E3, KC135 and KC46A among dozens of aircrafts 24/7 in flight?.

Irán just need to push with USV suicide boats and torpedoes to keep them busy.