Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

 

[Starlord]

It seems like all parties involved in this war are running out of options and patience, hopefully some sort of mutually accept cease-fire or agreement is reached, because only poor people in America and innocent in Iran will suffer, while rest of poor countries will have hard time, in the end there will no winners except for one illegal entity that thrives on conflict.

 

[Flotilla]

It seems like all parties involved in this war are running out of options and patience, hopefully some sort of mutually accept cease-fire or agreement is reached, because only poor people in America and innocent in Iran will suffer, while rest of poor countries will have hard time, in the end there will no winners except for one illegal entity that thrives on conflict.

This fucking stupid (Trump) didn´t even fullfill the deal with Canadians, even he is cheating again with Greenland... What the hell makes you think this guy is going to respect an agreement with Iran, of all things?

 

[Immortals]

 

[Starlord]

This fucking stupid (Trump) didn´t even fullfill the deal with Canadians, even he is cheating again with Greenland... What the hell makes you think this guy is going to respect an agreement with Iran, of all things?

I doubt it because Trump is totally compromised President, I think he is scared of death threats, and MOSSAD's blackmail on Epstein files, plus he knows more than half of his own country hate him, and even half republicans now hate him for bending the knee to Israeli's, so he is a perfect vessel president to keep until he serve his purpose. Trump is easy to control because of his past shady life style, and he also have many criminal cases on him, if he goes against Israel he will either be dead or will be put in jail by impeachment. So I think that people like Kushner and Bibi are the ones who is running the US Govt and its foreign policy.

 

[Immortals]

. What the hell makes you think this guy is going to respect an agreement with Iran, of all things?

So what’s your plan? You gonna do strategic patience like you did during Trump’s first term and destroy the currency even further and get more riots?

You going to wait to get your entire leadership blown up a second time then go on an “this time we mean it” offensive?

You gonna keep threatening cryptic riddles of threats of force and never act on it?

Trump knows how to play the Iranians. He can come back to the MoU and wait a few months maybe even longer then rip it up again. And Iran won’t be able to do a damn thing. Iran doesn’t have the resolve to fight an existential war. It’s been hollowed out.

(Iran) should have fought when you had the chance. Instead you are back in the same sanctions spiral trap, except this time oil exports aren’t 1M or 500K barrels it’s ZERO.

These idiots have no plan. They don’t know how to properly fight and they don’t know how to build an economy. And it’s not only idiots inside Iran, it’s also idiots on here. No one in the past 10 years had a plan to face the reality of the situation.

10 years of No War, No Negotiations, No Nukes. Devoid of logic.

Now the Iranians plan to wait out Trump again? Or negotiate from a weak position like Hamas did and Hezbollah did? There is no strategy by Iran’s current leadership.

Mojtaba hasn’t been seen in 6 months. What kind of country is this where the leader is no where to be found? That the country airspace is so defenseless that he cannot even come out of hiding like he is Bin Laden or Baghdadi.

Since Iran apparently has no will to fight militarily anymore. It will either capitulate or it will collapse in the coming months. Those are the remaining options.

 

[lightning f57]

worth noting Iran itself has never shown such capabilities in practice

Im beginning to think its the Houthis that have been supplying Iran the antiship weapons.

 

[Watandar]

 

[Immortals]

U.S. bringing aircraft back to UAE as they realize Iran is all talk at this stage.

MQ-4 has begun flying out of Jordan again after being pulled back to Cyprus for fear of Iranian missile attacks on Jordan.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Shags101]

U.S. bringing aircraft back to UAE as they realize Iran is all talk at this stage.

MQ-4 has begun flying out of Jordan again after being pulled back to Cyprus for fear of Iranian missile attacks on Jordan.

Sooo I’m starting to think Iran really is setting up the stage for a huge surprise attack by readying stockpiles for Aarhus attack one of the moderators showed a large shipment of cruise missiles and etc that looked brand new and shiny being sent to the Houthis I think these guys are readying for something big

 

[Aryan_B]

WTF does he expect live by the sword die by the sword

 

[ShapurII]

So what’s your plan? You gonna do strategic patience like you did during Trump’s first term and destroy the currency even further and get more riots?

You going to wait to get your entire leadership blown up a second time then go on an “this time we mean it” offensive?

You gonna keep threatening cryptic riddles of threats of force and never act on it?

Trump knows how to play the Iranians. He can come back to the MoU and wait a few months maybe even longer then rip it up again. And Iran won’t be able to do a damn thing. Iran doesn’t have the resolve to fight an existential war. It’s been hollowed out.

(Iran) should have fought when you had the chance. Instead you are back in the same sanctions spiral trap, except this time oil exports aren’t 1M or 500K barrels it’s ZERO.

These idiots have no plan. They don’t know how to properly fight and they don’t know how to build an economy. And it’s not only idiots inside Iran, it’s also idiots on here. No one in the past 10 years had a plan to face the reality of the situation.

10 years of No War, No Negotiations, No Nukes. Devoid of logic.

Now the Iranians plan to wait out Trump again? Or negotiate from a weak position like Hamas did and Hezbollah did? There is no strategy by Iran’s current leadership.

Mojtaba hasn’t been seen in 6 months. What kind of country is this where the leader is no where to be found? That the country airspace is so defenseless that he cannot even come out of hiding like he is Bin Laden or Baghdadi.

Since Iran apparently has no will to fight militarily anymore. It will either capitulate or it will collapse in the coming months. Those are the remaining options.

There are only 3 possible scenarios to this war:

1. Iran capitulates unconditionally through the reformist government.
2. Iran gets nuked and surrenders unconditionally.
3. A civil war starts in Iran and the people of Iran topple the regime while other countries devour Iran. Whatever remains of Iran will be ruled by the Iranian opposition abroad.

The scenario 2 is very likely because not only it has been discussed officially in the US administration, as recently exposed by Marjorie Green, and previously hinted at by Trump himself and Iranian lawmakers, but it has been the most likely outcome of game theoretic stimulations of a potential Israel-Iran war since 2020.

So, prepare for Iran to get nuked and the idiots here come out and say that Iran doesn't need nuclear weapons. Just like Saddam killed over 100K Iranians with chemical weapons and the "Grand Ayatollah" said chemical weapons were haram and didn't retaliate.

 

[ShapurII]

@Eşbah

I promised to reply to your post but I cannot find it anymore. I don't remember your points exactly, the only thing I remember is that you agreed Russia had betrayed Iran. Anyway, here's my 2 cents as summarized as possible:

I believe that Turkey is playing the role assigned to it by the US and NATO in the region.
Before 2012, the US believed that Saudi Arabia could curb the influence of Iran and maintain their interests in the Middle East due to its religious status in the Muslim world. Saudi Arabia proved useless in that role and got their asses handed over to Iran on every occasion in the region.

However, unlike Saudi Arabia, Turkey is competent and has a professional army that is made up of Turkish citizens, not hired mercenaries.

In 70s, besides Israel, Iran was the gatekeeper of American interests in the Middle East, then it shifted to Saudi Arabia due to their religious status and now it has shifted to Turkey.

 

[ShapurII]

Iran is already entering the last stage of this crisis.

1) The Iranian Rial is losing its value again, hitting new lows as usual. When Pezeshkian took the office, 1 USD = 50,000 IRT and now it is 1 USD = 205,000 IRT in less than 2 years.
2) Iran is facing fuel shortage and the government seems incapable of shutting down fuel smuggling, probably because the money goes to the Ayatollahs themselves.
3) The so-called "Trustees" have not returned a single penny from over $90 billion USD that they currently hold and the Judiciary Body of the Islamic Republic is doing nothing about it.

The fall is much closer than idiots here like to admit.

@Immortals
You're wasting your time on these idiots.