LG smart TVs caught logging audio with screen off and snooping on local devices

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More smart "Internet of Things" connections causing problems....

An investigation by Gamers Nexus found LG smart TVs sweep local networks to map phones and nearby devices. Tests also showed the sets can capture microphone audio with the screen off — they then upload data once reconnected to the internet.

LG smart TVs continuously sweep home networks, map secondary devices, and log microphone audio while appearing to be turned off, according to a new 135-minute-long video published by Gamers Nexus (see below).

In more detail, Steve had been working with Level1Techs and independent security researchers. Together, they tested retail LG OLED models including the G5. Network packet captures taken through Wireshark showed the TVs actively scanning the local area network for unrelated hardware, including phones and smartwatches. Apart from internal IP addresses, the sets also gathered the names and signal strengths of neighboring Wi-Fi networks along with location data.

This data collection pool is fed into into LG Ad Solutions (the company’s targeted advertising arm). LG claims they have roughly 216 million smart TV sales globally. On the other hand, the ad division says it has access to 363 million secondary addressable devices in the US alone by tracking other hardware on the same network. The sets also run Automated Content Recognition (ACR). It samples on-screen audio and video into digital fingerprints to log what users watch across inputs. While ACR has been well documented in the past, new testing shows the data collection goes much further than just that.



During bench tests, they found the TV could capture clean microphone audio while the screen was (or at least looked to be) powered down in standby mode. When the team disconnected the TV from Ethernet, the set continued saving voice input locally and uploaded the stored files once network access was restored.

The researchers also documented remote code execution vulnerabilities in webOS that are currently moving through the responsible disclosure process. Because of the fact that the TV uses broad network listeners and data sweeps out of the box, the team's recommendation was straight-up disconnecting LG sets from the internet and using external streaming devices instead.

LG has not commented on any of this as of writing.
 
I have a separate VLAN for IOT and Smart devices that is separate from my private VLN for this very reason.

I am not surprised on these findings.
 
that's why i bought a "dumb" tv that did not have ability to connect to internet.

And I keep covered the camera hole on my laptop/tv anyways so no video can be had by anyone.

sometimes i really miss the first gen dumb phones, the little ones with tiny buttons.
Those were good where u could remove battery too.

now they make it impossible to remove the battery!
 
And I keep covered the camera hole on my laptop/tv anyways so no video can be had by anyone.

blue painter's tape on mine ever since i saw this

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Quite a shame, they make excellent OLED TVs
 
at least in a tv you can be sure it's switched off if you unplug cable from socket.

in a smartphone/tablet you cant take out battery,it can be permanently listening with right spying software.

in iran war, the only solution was switch off whole internet.

imagine if someday china attacks the west, there is no escape.
 
at least in a tv you can be sure it's switched off if you unplug cable from socket.

in a smartphone/tablet you cant take out battery,it can be permanently listening with right spying software.

in iran war, the only solution was switch off whole internet.

imagine if someday china attacks the west, there is no escape.
And what happens when the West fights back and attacks China. You failed to mention that response
 
I have a separate VLAN for IOT and Smart devices that is separate from my private VLN for this very reason.

I am not surprised on these findings.
I need to do this. At least create a separate subnet to separate and not allow access to provider LAN.
 
Was it just too smart with custom LG OS?

My Acer TV runs stock Google Android TV OS and shows Green tick at top when mic is active just like Android phones.
 
blue painter's tape on mine ever since i saw this

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why most of people are so paranoid with laptops cameras and they are not with smartphone/tablets camera?

if someone installs unknown origin apks the risk of camera hacking is similar to laptops, by non state actors.

and by state actors the vulnerability is always 100% in any device.
 
Quite a shame, they make excellent OLED TVs
At this point it's like playing whack a mole...
...Google, Microsoft, Meta, Apple, Amazon...all these major companies have been found to be invading privacy at various levels...
...and what happens after? Nothing meaningful. A slap on the wrist...a fine that's a joke...a CEO playing dumb blaming some low level fall guy.
And the list of these major players seems small..but it's not. They own a lot of other sub companies that they either acquired or spun off. Meta alone owns a ton of social media(Facebook, Messenger, Snapchat, WhatsApp, Threads, etc). Not to mention everything owned by the other major players. As to what gets caught is probably a small sliver of that comes to light by some researchers.

Watch this be a class action lawsuit and a fine. The fine goes to the government which has been getting fat from such useless "punishments" while nothing meaningful gets done. Of course the fine is just some pocket change for such companies..all the while both the government and these companies are all too happy to collect the data and invade privacy hand in hand behind the scenes. As for the class action lawsuit...every member who claims it would be given like a $20 check as a slap in the face..like saying in a demeaning manner "go get urself some lunch boy".

At this point...the government should just stop with the pretense of not allowing Chinese EVs, routers, 5G equipment from Huawei and other such things that was supposedly a threat to the American ppl...bcuz it could spy on ppl and have backdoors...
...if the default is privacy violation and spying on everyone then the people might as well be able to have affordable things.
 
Although LG is a Korean company, bet this feature is required and controlled solely by the USA intelligence.
 

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