The US Is Badly Losing Its Trade War with China

If and when China's per-capita income matches that of the United States, you can make those tall claims. For now, concentrate on bragging less and continue working hard.

CountryNominal GDP per capita (2025)
🇨🇳 China$13,862
🇺🇸 United States$90,026

Work hard (China) Vs Work smart (US).
Dollar based Nominal GDP sometimes doesn't reflect the real picture.

 
Chinq life expectancy already higher than usa and much better infrastructure free from crime and violence.

Keep eroding that usa middle class while the billionaires treat the mass citizens as slaves. When that depression hits and whites are a minority, that's when it really pops off !
 
It sounds like a lot of cope. I can see the white becoming minorities and look at the debt and treasury bond yields like everyone else. Its just a matter of time lol first the erosion and destruction of the usa middle class which is almost complete and next civil war when depression happens.

Keep coping tho won't do u any good long term
You predicted this nonsense on 01 October 2026. Don't forget it.

I've seen many such predictions in the last couple of decades.

Also remember that the rest of the world does not have the money to buy all the goods and services that the rest of the world is currently selling to the US in the trillions.
 
Chinq life expectancy already higher than usa and much better infrastructure free from crime and violence.

Keep eroding that usa middle class while the billionaires treat the mass citizens as slaves. When that depression hits and whites are a minority, that's when it really pops off !
You can never do this in US, otherwise you will kiss your packages goodbye in no time.

 
You predicted this nonsense on 01 October 2026. Don't forget it.

I've seen many such predictions in the last couple of decades.

Also remember that the rest of the world does not have the money to buy all the goods and services that the rest of the world is currently selling to the US in the trillions.
I made many predictions on my time here and they just about all became correct haha

White minority chalk that in - remember experts say will happen 2040s at latest
US life expectancy lower than China - already happened
40tn debt, white minority, erosion of middle class leading to open revolt - 2040s chalk that in
Russia - Central Asia - Africa already selling oil in non petrodollar format - don't need to even chalk that in
GCC now selling oil in non usd format also forgot to mention but they can only squeeze a bit out of the gulf with the war going on lol
 
I made many predictions on my time here and they just about all became correct haha

White minority chalk that in - remember experts say will happen 2040s at latest
US life expectancy lower than China - already happened
40tn debt, white minority, erosion of middle class leading to open revolt - 2040s chalk that in
Russia - Central Asia - Africa already selling oil in non petrodollar format - don't need to even chalk that in
GCC now selling oil in non usd format also forgot to mention but they can only squeeze a bit out of the gulf with the war going on lol

So, you're under the impression that if oil is not sold in US dollars, that means the end of the US as an economic power?

Was it Professor Chimpanzee who taught you this theory? 🤔

How do you think the US became the world's largest economy from the mid-1880s and remained so for decades before the petrodollar system emerged in the 1970s?

The US didn't become an economic superpower because oil was priced in dollars. The causality runs the other way: the dollar's international importance was largely a consequence of the underlying strength of the US economy, its financial markets, institutions, and global trade.The revised version keeps your sarcasm but makes the historical argument more precise and harder to dismiss as simply rhetoric.
 
So, you're under the impression that if oil is not sold in US dollars, that means the end of the US as an economic power?

Was it Professor Chimpanzee who taught you this theory? 🤔

How do you think the US became the world's largest economy from the mid-1880s and remained so for decades before the petrodollar system emerged in the 1970s?

The US didn't become an economic superpower because oil was priced in dollars. The causality runs the other way: the dollar's international importance was largely a consequence of the underlying strength of the US economy, its financial markets, institutions, and global trade.The revised version keeps your sarcasm but makes the historical argument more precise and harder to dismiss as simply rhetoric.
sounds like all cope and not addressed a single one of my predictions. typical monkey iq business

keep coping while the american middle class is eroding to nothing and whites becoming minority soon. No more large borrowing happening either since no one wants treasury bonds lol
 
sounds like all cope and not addressed a single one of my predictions. typical monkey iq business

keep coping while the american middle class is eroding to nothing and whites becoming minority soon. No more large borrowing happening either since no one wants treasury bonds lol
Which part of my comment did you find to be coping?

So, you're under the impression that if oil is not sold in US dollars, that means the end of the US as an economic power?​
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Was it Professor Chimpanzee who taught you this theory? 🤔​
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How do you think the US became the world's largest economy from the mid-1880s and remained so for decades before the petrodollar system emerged in the 1970s?​

The US didn't become an economic superpower because oil was priced in dollars. The causality runs the other way: the dollar's international importance was largely a consequence of the underlying strength of the US economy, its financial markets, institutions, and global trade.​
 
If and when China's per-capita income matches that of the United States, you can make those tall claims. For now, concentrate on bragging less and continue working hard.

CountryNominal GDP per capita (2025)
🇨🇳 China$13,862
🇺🇸 United States$90,026

Work hard (China) Vs Work smart (US).

work smart = financial ponzi scheme

Most average Americans prefer a 2 dollars burger from the 1990s when the nominal per capita was 20,000 USD than the current 20 dollar burger under a nominal per capita of 90,000 USD.

 
all the billionaires are busy building and stocking their underground bunkers......

while the peasants fight over stupid scraps

The DECEPTION and DISTRACTION is happening.
 
Trump has never understood that the United States' advantage lies in its financial industry and vast alliance group, rather than its technology and trade.
 

The US Is Badly Losing Its Trade War with China​

US trade restrictions since 2018 have done little to alter China’s trajectory while imposing a significant cost on American companies and consumers.

SEPTEMBER 23, 2026
By Scott Lincicome

Xi Jinping’s arrival at the White House on Thursday will be the first Chinese state visit to the United States since 2015. It thus makes for the perfect time to judge the radical changes to US-China trade policy that President Donald Trump unleashed in 2018. After eight years of historically high tariffs, export controls, industrial policy, and more, we can conclude the policy has been a failure by its own objectives.

In March 2018, the US’s opening tariff salvo – implemented via Section 301 of the Trade Act of 1974 – aimed to roll back Chinese industrial policy and blunt Beijing’s push for dominance in advanced manufacturing. Subsequent tariffs and export controls added more goals: shrink China’s trade surplus and policy-driven overcapacity, reduce US dependence on Chinese goods, slow China’s technological advance, and weaken Beijing’s geopolitical position.

Granted, there have been a few superficial victories. Between 2017 and 2025, direct imports from China declined from about 21.6% of US goods imports in 2017 to roughly 9% by 2025, a level not seen since China joined the World Trade Organization in 2001. Export restrictions have denied Chinese companies easy access to Nvidia Corp.’s best chips and ASML Holding NV’s best chipmaking equipment. And American firms such as Apple Inc. shifted production capacity from China to India, Vietnam, Mexico, and other low-wage alternatives.

Beneath the surface, however, there’s little for trade hawks to cheer. New research finds that Chinese content – either directly or lawfully embedded in third-country goods – has been entering the US at levels only modestly below those in 2017, confirming the anecdotal evidence. Illegal transshipment and customs fraud have also increased – another predictable result of high and complex US tariffs. The 2025–26 drop in China’s import share, meanwhile, is mainly owed to surging AI inputs from Mexico and Taiwan – goods that were never made in China to begin with.

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Outside the US, China’s trade position has never been stronger. Its trade surplus in goods rose to a record $1.19 trillion last year and is on pace to meet or exceed that total in 2026, with substantial export gains in non-US markets and in advanced industries like electronic vehicles. China also remains the world’s top manufacturing nation and the largest producer and exporter of intermediate goods – both by large margins. Chinese firms have ramped up both sales to and outbound investment in third-country production hubs facing lower US tariffs. Overall, Chinese exporters responded to new trade barriers not by shrinking but simply going around them.

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China’s state capitalist economic model is also unchanged and may have been further entrenched by the US’s confrontational approach. In 2021, Beijing responded to US tariffs with a five-year plan that doubled down on industrial policy and technological self-reliance. According to the US-China Business Council, Beijing’s latest (15th) plan “suggests that industrial policy is no longer just one policy area among many but rather an organizing logic for the whole economy.”

Today, policymakers in Europe and elsewhere worry aloud about a destabilizing wave of Chinese exports – a “China Shock 2.0” – fueled by massive Chinese subsidies. State-owned enterprises, meanwhile, continue to play a large role in China’s economy and trade. Per the Peterson Institute, companies with full or substantial government ownership still accounted for 60% of the combined market value of China’s top 100 listed firms. American farm export targets in the most recent US-China trade deal perversely depend on state-owned Sinograin and COFCO.

American policy has proven ineffective – if not counterproductive – in other ways, too. Following the shock of US tariffs and export restrictions during Trump’s first term, Beijing worked to reduce its vulnerability to economic pressure from Washington and to develop asymmetric countermeasures should US coercion reemerge. This deepened Beijing’s involvement in China’s economy, led Chinese companies to look inward for technology and innovation, and gave the CCP new leverage – most notably over the rare earth minerals that US firms depend on – in bilateral talks. The moves help to explain why the 2018 wave of US tariffs produced a “Phase One” deal that (superficially, at least) favored Washington, while Trump’s second-term escalation has produced a stalemate.

Today, the US-China détente has, along with other Trump tariffs on non-China goods, so narrowed the gap between tariffs on Chinese imports and those on China alternative nations that some supply chains are now moving back into China. German firms are boosting their China investments while cutting US outlays. India has engaged with China after years of tension. And polls find China is viewed more favorably than the US in numerous countries for the first time.

American export controls and sanctions have also proven leaky. Research firm Epoch AI estimated that by the end of 2025 hundreds of thousands of Nvidia’s advanced artificial intelligence chips had reached China in violation of US export controls. Washington has relented on advanced chip sales to China, but no one there is buying because US restrictions prodded Chinese chipmakers to build passable alternatives. American firms, the Brookings Institute concluded in June, are now “shut out of the high end of the world’s largest chip market.”

These US policy failures don’t mean that China is an unstoppable hegemon in waiting. Beijing has set its lowest growth target in decades. Chinese technology still lags behind in certain advanced manufacturing industries, including top-end semiconductors. And the Chinese economy faces long-term headwinds – pervasive capital misallocation, sub-frontier productivity, smothering debt, and a rapidly aging population – that no amount of exports can fix.

But that’s very much the point. The problems in China’s economy are owed to factors beyond Washington’s control, and US trade restrictions since 2018 have done little to alter China’s trajectory while imposing a significant cost on American companies and consumers.

After eight years of failed unilateralism, Trump officials still don’t seem to understand that Washington can’t fundamentally change how the Chinese government organizes its economy, and that it’s better to focus US government efforts on a narrow set of real Chinese threats, on deepening non-China alliances, and on fixing American economic competitiveness across a range of issue areas.

Dramatic changes to Chinese policy must come from Chinese officials. Washington unfortunately keeps giving them reasons not to change.
Let's hope so that USA is losing the trade war with China.

Lets hope China wins in the trade war against USA.

Would love to see China become the world's largest economy in GDP NOMINAL.
 
Let's hope so that USA is losing the trade war with China.

Lets hope China wins in the trade war against USA.

Would love to see China become the world's largest economy in GDP NOMINAL.

Highly doubt China ever surpasses US GDP. China is underperforming pre Covid expectations and the US exceeding them. US growth in real terms is only about 1% behind China now.

With the US AI buildout and there downstream effects US growth may rise to near 3% in the coming years. Chinas growth is decelerating, and they’ve only reached 15% of US GDP per capita.
 
Highly doubt China ever surpasses US GDP. China is underperforming pre Covid expectations and the US exceeding them. US growth in real terms is only about 1% behind China now.

With the US AI buildout and there downstream effects US growth may rise to near 3% in the coming years. Chinas growth is decelerating, and they’ve only reached 15% of US GDP per capita.
Let us wait till 2028 or 2030 and see China's economy at that time.
 

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