Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

 

[UKBengali]

Your behavior is like a castrated man accusing other, normal men of enjoying the pleasure of sexual intercourse.

Dude, this is a weird post.

 

[UKBengali]

As one of the P5 members of the UN Security Council, China is obligated to uphold the consensus reached by the Council.

China must publicly support the relevant resolutions on Iran adopted by the UN Security Council. However, in terms of practical implementation, there is considerable room for flexibility—though such pragmatic adjustments are never conducted openly.

Thus, on the stage of international diplomacy, China must oppose Iran’s development of nuclear weapons; yet, China has never opposed Iran’s peaceful use of nuclear energy. There is a vast amount of ambiguity here. As to how much, you'll have to figure it out for yourself.

As for the issue of SOH charges, I have already addressed this previously.

This never obligated the US and so why is China being "white than white"?

 

[KingQamaR]

China is not best served by a fast war.

Although a fast war would inflict a geopolitical humiliation it would save the USA from Trump’s financial calamity.

China wants USA bogged down in Iran so instead of plotting against China - USA needs China’s help to contain Iran.

China will provide just enough help to Iran to continue. But the idiot Mullahs better let the IRGC develop the bomb. Otherwise Iran will be in another decades long war.

USA has 11 carriers , but in reality only 3 can work at any time due to repairs , maintenance, lack of crew etc. None left for the Pacific. None left for anywhere else. If there is a good chance of China invading Taiwan now is there best chance.

 

[r3alist]

The naivety of looking at this war as an “eye for an eye” war still astonishes me.

Who was hurting more in the Vietnam war?

Did that lead to USA winning the war for IndoChina supremacy?

You have to look at why each side went to war!!!!

They didn’t go to war to see who could hurt who more!!!!

USA waged war to turn Iran into a US bitch. Like the rest of Arabia.

And Iran put up a fight because they didn’t want to be US’ Red Light district.

Last time I checked US sailors dare not get within a 1000 miles of Iran let alone roam around Tehran looking for Iranian ladyboys!!!

So, please stop your naive musings that insults the only Muslims brave enough to put up a fight!!!

This is different.

Typically you are bogged down by troops

In this case it's global trade route affecting the globe, the USA is not in a land struggle

So you have to ask yourself can Iran indefinitely hold the pass hostage and what response they might receive if enough people get annoyed

It's a reasonable question

 

[Zhuge Liang]

This is different.

Typically you are bogged down by troops

In this case it's global trade route affecting the globe, the USA is not in a land struggle

So you have to ask yourself can Iran indefinitely hold the pass hostage and what response they might receive if enough people get annoyed

It's a reasonable question

The main question for Iran is lifting of sanctions.

 

[BananaRepublic]

USA has 11 carriers , but in reality only 3 can work at any time due to repairs , maintenance, lack of crew etc. None left for the Pacific. None left for anywhere else. If there is a good chance of China invading Taiwan now is there best chance.

USA will handover Taiwan just like U.K. did Hong Kong. On a silver platter.

Patience is China’s virtue.

 

[Michael]

This never obligated the US and so why is China being "white than white"?

So, take a guess: how did China rise?

Imagine provoking the biggest bully around when you can barely even stand on your own two feet.

That isn't a heroic feat; it’s sheer foolishness. At a time like that, no one is going to step in to help you, let alone uphold "justice" on your behalf.

You have to exercise patience and use your wits to keep that bully from targeting you. You need to focus on healing and gradually building up your strength.

Once you possess sufficient power, even your farts become "justice."

 

[KingQamaR]

I don't believe the USA are bogged down, in terms of troops


Who is relatively suffering more, Iran or USA?

Sure everyone is taking a hit, but the USA is seeing Saudi Iran weaker, internally and externally.

There has been no fuel crisis

It's a bit difficult

So if Iran have done their maximum what card's are left


They won't test a bomb, alternatives are being looked at it for oil.

Bro
War objectives? I don’t even think Trump and US Military still know what their war objectives are as it was clear from the beginning they never had one and kept it changing. It feels like Vietnam again for US or Suez Canal moment for the US. I do agree , Sadly Iran is hurting badly. So are US MAGA retards who voted in the orange clown their gas prices are going up and US economY IS tanking big time too.

 

[r3alist]

The main question for Iran is lifting of sanctions.

And that means making nice with the west in some way, wh can play the long game here longer, Iran or USA and west

 

[KingQamaR]

Us forces have exited Iraq this week.

That’s another thing ticked off Irans to do list.

 

[BananaRepublic]

This is different.

Typically you are bogged down by troops

In this case it's global trade route affecting the globe, the USA is not in a land struggle

So you have to ask yourself can Iran indefinitely hold the pass hostage and what response they might receive if enough people get annoyed

It's a reasonable question

You guys, on the other side, cannot hold a diametrically contradictory assertion simultaneously.

You say, “SoH blockade is ineffective because your data shows oil flow is back to pre war levels”.

Then say, “can Iran enforce the blockade indefinitely without pushback from third countries?”

Which one is it, bro?

When you make your mind up - I will reply to you.

 

[r3alist]

Bro
War objectives? I don’t even think Trump and US Military still know what their war objectives are as it was clear from the beginning they never had one and kept it changing. It feels like Vietnam again for US or Suez Canal moment for the US. I do agree , Sadly Iran is hurting badly. So are US MAGA retards who voted in the orange clown their gas prices are going up and US economY IS tanking big time too.

I see your point but I believe destruction is an objective in itself

when the monarchists failed the Israeli pov was well let's just see what damage we can do, maybe set Iran back 15 to 20 years, arresting development of Iran, that's an outcome


Trump played his role well in the end, he sold American maga base out just when everyone was convinced he was the one, sure there is grumbling about oil economy bit it can be weathered

 

[Immortals]

 

[r3alist]

You guys, on the other side, cannot hold a diametrically contradictory assertion simultaneously.

You say, “SoH blockade is ineffective because your data shows oil flow is back to pre war levels”.

Then say, “can Iran enforce the blockade indefinitely without pushback from third countries?”

Which one is it, bro?

When you make your mind up - I will reply to you.

Bro, it's kind of both

Oil can simultaneously flow yet Iran can maintain a disruptor capability, it's not a zero or everything binary

So to my mind, and it's fair to question strategy, what's the decisive win from blocking the waterways, and is the target even Israel anymore? They have regrouped


these feel like cards to save Iran the nation state


I think the mix of missiles, waterway disruption, proxies and nuclear ambiguity that made them powerful are eroding to some extent, the world is still running though at more cost still running, Israel is even more ambitious and tolling cannot be enforced for years in my opinion