Federal cabinet gives nod to imposition of emergency in KP; summary sent to president

[prothought]

Yea they have multiple times. I know you're lying and don't have any proof I was just checking if you had anything worthwhile to say.

Here is a simple Gemini prompt (Gemini is an LLM that is integrated with Google Search, so it will find any news article of PTI supporting TTP)

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The response:


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Apologies for the AI slop, but I did not feel like going through the trouble of digging up all PTI statements and actions that go directly against what you're claiming. Kabhi kabaar ham lazy hojatay hay.

So, even though you are a bold-faced liar I will humour you a little bit more. Please share with us, not just me but all of us here some bonafide evidence of PTI being a terrorist party. I will relinquish all support for PTI right now. I'll sing and dance to any ISPR tune you want.

You click on any of these boxes and you get only the enlarged box. There is no link to the actual media/newspaper that published the claimed news.
Don't try to cheat. These boxes might be as fake as a typical yo*thia.
Please provide the links and not the fake/made-up screenshots.

Don't cowardly run away!!!
Or else I'll chase and disgrace you for forgery.

 

[Oscar]

Frankly any Pakistani to is not condemning the dictatorship is enabling it. Fence sitting under the guise of "lack of better options" is dishonest and cowardly.

Most of us on this forum have spent the best years of our life watching our country get worse and worse. Our parents have spent the entirety of thier lives watching it happen.

The reason Pakistanis cling on to any sliver of hope towards change is because Multiple generations are desperate to see that change. Referring to it as cultist is not as cool out loud as it is in your head.

Lets agree to disagree in that you outlined desperation and not logic in your post already - which by the way is what ends up being the "my way or the highway" both cults and dictatorships use.

There is already enough repeated condemnation of the dictatorship - which you have for the sake of desperation and emotion have conveniently ignored in the feeble attempt to dismiss what the problem is in all these "tabdeeli" movements - starting from all these generations - blind following that refuses to adapt and fights the system with the same playbook they are well accustomed to dealing with.

 

[Oscar]

No it's not.

You can very well be for no side, but then you can't lay the blame for a situation squarely at the blame of one party.

Also as assumption you are painting here to get the pass of victimhood - that is plain and square.

Even though as outlined - the current state of the PTI did not occur in any vacuum and is a direct result of the establishment's supression.

I repeat so you have no fallbacks to hide on - the ESTABLISHMENT - Starting with Bajwq to Asim Munir and his cabal ARE DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CURRENT SITATION AND PTI'S EXTREMIST TURN.

I can potentially mail that to you on stamp paper if it helps.

But, the results that took PTI out of power were not all "establishment conspiracy".

Economies dont fix themselves on slogans or attacking opponents - PTI FAILED to deliver.
You cannot promise accountability and then be selective in when it comes to your favorites
You cannot have re-entrenchment of TTP - right after "broken the shackles of slavery".

You cannot have EVERY other decision in the party overruled by one man because then it is fraud to people who expected it to act as a better institution. If any dissent is disloyalty, any competence that conflicts with IK becomes optional and any setback is put on conspiracy then you are failed in your own goals.
Why do you think so many competent people left PTI at the end of it?
And those that remain - do out of desperation because they don't want to accept they failed against the system YET AGAIN because their leader is charlatan.

If ANYTHING that isnt in the party script is "****, pro estab, cowardice etc.." throwing out foul language as if parents spoke it to each in their homes.. then it is a CULT.

If ANYTHING that shows failures is either CONSPIRACY or SOMEONE ELSE'S FAULT - IT IS TEXTBOOK CULT VICTIM

If your answer to every failure is “establishment" then you are not defending a political movement but a personality cult.

So while it is easy to argue that calling PTI a cult is also a cop out instead of putting arguments - unfortunately, when individuals do not have anything else in their script other than "It wasnt me" or "It was the establishment"... like many muslims say "Shaytan made us do it" ... then unfortunately then only thing to say to that is also - CULT.

 

[Forsvaret]

That I too have a problem with. However, this was a lesson learnt from the Musharraf episode by the Establishment.

Well, when you put it like that, it seems military establishment didn't actually learn any lessons from its past debacles. Instead, it used those debacles to permanently close remaining legal loopholes that could potentially become a challenge to its absolute dominance in Pakistan.

 

[Forsvaret]

Also, 27th amendment was done by the parliament of Pakistan. It was an institutional action.

It was indeed an "institutional" action in this sense that it was decided by the "institution" & later rubber stamped by the parliament.

 

[Forsvaret]

'...Pakistanis have taken to the streets to protest my father’s release...'

So people were actually protesting to "restore" Military Rule aka Governor Raj in KPK?

 

[prothought]

You will soon see every TTP terrorist attack being celebrated by likes of @SteppeWolff. Use islamist taliban terrorism as some sort of PTI resistance response.

The state is dead serious about rooting out terrorism in KPK. First of all, the state will strengthen KPK police and other LEAs and then take on terrorists. It any y*uthia joins the ranks of terrorists, he will not only lose his life but also put his family in trouble.

The time of using social media as a tool for attacking the state by spreading lies, using recycled videos, launching character assassination campaigns has gone too. Any yo*thia involved in such grave crime will see the jail.

Any politician or public figure found trying to blackmail the state by demanding political meeting with any convicted criminals will be taken to the task.

It's very like that the convicted filth will be transferred from Adyala jail to another jail for his trial under the cases related to May 9th attacks on the state.

Coming days are expected to be very heavy for yo*thias and their shitheaded cult leader.

Being a long time political observer, this is what I can smell in the air.

 

[Forsvaret]

The state is dead serious about rooting out terrorism in KPK. First of all, the state will strengthen KPK police and other LEAs and then take on terrorists. It any y*uthia joins the ranks of terrorists, he will not only lose his life but also put his family in trouble.

The time of using social media as a tool for attacking the state by spreading lies, using recycled videos, launching character assassination campaigns has gone too. Any yo*thia involved in such grave crime will see the jail.

Any politician or public figure found trying to blackmail the state by demanding political meeting with any convicted criminals will be taken to the task.

It's very like that the convicted filth will be transferred from Adyala jail to another jail for his trial under the cases related to May 9th attacks on the state.

Coming days are expected to be very heavy for yo*thias and their shitheaded cult leader.

Being a long time political observer, this is what I can smell in the air.

Any y*uthia found still alive & kicking will be reprogrammed to fit this new "one page" of the state aka military establishment. Being a long time political observer, this is what I can smell in the air too...

 

[prothought]

It was indeed an "institutional" action in this sense that it was decided by the "institution" & later rubber stamped by the parliament.

Parliament is a super institution by itself.

 

[prothought]

So people were actually protesting to "restore" Military Rule aka Governor Raj in KPK?

It was in response to the following post.

Post in thread 'Federal cabinet gives nod to imposition of emergency in KP; summary sent to president'

Yesterday at 6:06 PM

The problem is only getting worse for one side here.

Pakistan as a country ultimately belongs to its people and not ONLY to its military establishment:

• Forsvaret

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[Forsvaret]

Parliament is a super institution by itself.

False. Parliament is still FAR below GHQ in its institutional ranking as multiple military takeovers of the country have demonstrated in the past. Sure, all laws & constitutional amendments are rubber stamped in parliament but actually made someplace else. That's not an example of parliament being supreme.

 

[Desprado123]

When a 12 years old is running a party policy behind a social media account while most are refuge in the same country which did no confidence plan against the greatest leader and do not want to come to Pakistan or even go jail or same cell as Imran Khan but they people to pick up arm and kill army people and other political party. Moreover, these people are running entire party policy.

Even Sheik Waqas yesterday said to Hammiad Mir that there Imran Khan sister did not tell Imran Khan no one is coming out for you in fact she use to present another picture which was based on fiction and it was dictated by overseas PTI while our point and connection was cut off. He said KPK CM has to take permission from Azhar Mashwani and his boss which is in US as PTI head of US and entire PTI social media.

Just see what PTI gained. All are in jail and no one is bothered even spending so much money by his ex in UK.

 

[prothought]

False. Parliament is still FAR below GHQ in its institutional ranking as multiple military takeovers have demonstrated in the past.

I respect your view point but don't really agree with you on this.

 

[Forsvaret]

Just see what PTI gained. All are in jail...

So what else is NEW? Wasn't every major anti-establishment party and its leaders in jail after successive military coups of 1958, 1977, 1999?

 

[Watandar]

And Imran is not a dictator? He was a known tyrant and arrogant person--and a Narcist too--in the 70s/80s as a cricketer. And he carried those traits into his politics and while he was the PM of Pakistan.
Dictatorship is not limited to the Generals: ZAB was also a dictator but at least he had a brain. Imran is a dictator without the brains. Maybe only Nawaz Sharif comes close to him but thank God that Nawaz has been sidelined.

Mr Imran Khan is a civilian who was elected to parliament, and then elected Prime Minister. He ruled according to the Constitution and was deposed using constitutional, though politically dubious, means. He and his party are now political prisoners.

Now let's compare to the khaki duffers who have ruled (ruined) Pakistan by the gun. Did any of them ever win an election ? Did they ever obey any court order ? Did they ever consult the people (Parliament) ? Did any of them obey the Constitution ?
Were they ever charged in any court and jailed for their crimes ??

No, never happened. There is no comparison between civilian leadership and the criminal dictators who come to power illegally and rule via oppression and murder.

Asim Munir's fate will be the same as all other dictator criminals of Pakistan. Those who refuse to learn from history are condemned to repeat it.