Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Shags202]

I’m telling you and I have been saying this for a long time those missile cities are full service maybe not all of them but quite a few I always found it funny Houthis Hezbollah and Iraqis have all gone deep to build weapons in secure places from prying eyes with Iranians helping them build these places but most are carbon copies of the original underground bases in iran(I’m thinking Houthis have been placed close to Irans manufacturing capacity at least with missiles and drones)

 

[Immortals]

Lets say each launcher mas a crew of 5 (for arguments sake). That would mean Iran lost 300 launchers(along with their entire crew) if what Pezeshkian said was true. Is there any evidence that Iran lost anywhere near that number of Launchers? I highly doubt it.

There are more personnel then just launcher crews for missiles.

There is launcher crew for drones and cruise missiles as well. And in one incident alone over 10 soldiers launching UAVs died and there bodies were filmed by civilians.

There is also crews who clear up the tunnels after bombing and who go out and clear out the cluster munitions that are dropped to impede the TEL from moving freely.

So yes it’s quiet possible that you had that many deaths particularly in the 12 day war when Iran was attempting to do massive salvos.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Immortals]

 

[SMC]

So they are planning on doing all this while being 60-70% down on interceptors? Awesome military planning. Will be much easier for Iran to hit targets this time around.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Shags202]

So I already knew the answer but why would they use bomb is but that bomb isn’t made to penetrate mountains or burrow deep underground

• Design and Function: The MOAB is a massive air-burst thermobaric (high-blast) conventional bomb weighing about 21,600 pounds. It is engineered to detonate just above the ground to create a devastating surface blast wave and psychological "shock and awe" effect across a wide area (roughly equivalent to nine city blocks). [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
• Penetration: It has a thin aluminum casing and is not built to punch through deep rock, reinforced concrete, or deeply buried subterranean facilities. [1, 2]
• The Real Bunker Buster: The U.S. military's actual deep-penetration bunker buster is the GBU-57A/B MOP (Massive Ordnance Penetrator), a 30,000-pound hardened-steel precision weapon designed to burrow up to 200 feet underground before detonating.

 

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[Navid09]

More missiles being unnecessarily wasted to send a message.

It doesn’t require 5 days of tests to see if your missiles are “working”.

If Iran is actually planning a pre-emptive attack, best time to do it would be in the middle of a training exercise as enemy will have less time to react.

It would take longer for them to know if the launched missile is targeted at them or just for training.

Guess we'll know if this was their plan in next few days.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Immortals]

If Iran is actually planning a pre-emptive attack, best time to do it would be in the middle of a training exercise as enemy will have less time to react.

It would take longer for them to know if the launched missile is targeted at them or just for training.

Guess we'll know if this was their plan in next few days.

They are neither firing enough missiles nor bringing out enough launchers to be able to do a pre emptive attack.

There is a huge difference between 10 BM launches a day and bringing out enough BMs for a 100-200 launch salvo.

Also let’s be honest, Iranian DNA the last 500 years means this country has zero guts for such an operation. They are still too scared to even leave NPT after having their entire leadership assassinated multiple times.

This country is hopeless with this current generation of leaders. Relics of the revolutionary time who have softened and moderated as old men.

 

[Kyussis]

There are more personnel then just launcher crews for missiles.

There is launcher crew for drones and cruise missiles as well. And in one incident alone over 10 soldiers launching UAVs died and there bodies were filmed by civilians.

There is also crews who clear up the tunnels after bombing and who go out and clear out the cluster munitions that are dropped to impede the TEL from moving freely.

So yes it’s quiet possible that you had that many deaths particularly in the 12 day war when Iran was attempting to do massive salvos.

My point was never about about the number of Casualties. I don't dispute that. My point was about Israel's claim that Iran had 420 launchers before the war and has 400 in possession now. I doubt Israeli intelligence knows the real numbers.

 

[Kyussis]

They are neither firing enough missiles nor bringing out enough launchers to be able to do a pre emptive attack.

There is a huge difference between 10 BM launches a day and bringing out enough BMs for a 100-200 launch salvo.

Also let’s be honest, Iranian DNA the last 500 years means this country has zero guts for such an operation. They are still too scared to even leave NPT after having their entire leadership assassinated multiple times.

This country is hopeless with this current generation of leaders. Relics of the revolutionary time who have softened and moderated as old men.

Its not enough for you to disparage our leaders and commanders. Now you are going after Iranian DNA? Cool it with your BS!

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

Regardless of whether that number is true or false, saying that 1500 soldiers have died at the launchers in public media is in line with the enemy's psychological warfare against our troops and it disheartens the IRGC personnel at the launchers. Also, it enables Trump to boast about how he has defeated Iran in the US media.

The whole system is rotten. Otherwise, Pezeshkiyan would've been impeached 2 years ago before he finished his first term.

‌Are you okay? This is his first term as president, not his second.