Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

fitpOsitive said:
You attacked and destroyed military installations. What's the point in stopping oil trade from Gulf countries?
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They pushed US to keep the sanctions and permanently destroy our economy, nation and country. We need to do the same against them.
 
Immortals said:




5th Iranian launcher destroyed in last 2 weeks and no response by Iran against US forces.

The boomer IRGC generals and politicians are so scared about accidentally starting a war.
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It appears US or Israel are goading Iran to attack. Maybe so that it gives them justification to paint Iran as a threat and attack Iran back. Would help with both netanyahu and trump's elections if they are seen as the defenders rather than aggressors.
 
Navid09 said:
It appears US or Israel are goading Iran to attack. Maybe so that it gives them justification to paint Iran as a threat and attack Iran back. Would help with both netanyahu and trump's elections if they are seen as the defenders rather than aggressors.
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Sad but true.
If Irán breaks with a complete attack they will even win elections and present themselves like victims.
Let they lost the elections and make another mistake.
 
muhammed45 said:
Iran is unfortunately a democratic country, we are not a dictatorship.

Majority wanted JCPOA, the leader said, so be it. Majority wants Pezeshkian, so be it.

Use your brain cells while writing the name of your favourite candidate in presidential elections. Instead of insulting our leader
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Hajizadeh gave khamenei ( his boss with unlimited power to promote or demote him) personal credit for Irans missile program.

It wasnt ahmadi moghadam. It was khamenei when he told hajizadeh that “ im asking you for accuracy not more range” or some bs along those lines.

A leader takes responsibility. Khamenei is never responsible for anything.

He is the commander in chief of every branch of the police/security and inteligence forces but bears no respondibility.

He has sole veto power over any state policy but bears ni responisiblity.

He can literally dismiss any official including the president with a single stroke of his pen, but bears no responsibility.

He personally makes all final choices on major state policies, but bera no responsibility.

He got into a fight with ahmadinejad, and ended his career after ahmadinejad tried to use his consittutional power to change the intel minister. One of the few security elements in in civilian hands but unofficially picked by khamenei…. But of course he bears no responisiblity….

Are you seriously telling me or anyone with a shred of knowledge on a Iranian politics that

A: if khamenei wanted to build a bomb, anybody could stop him?

Or B: if he forbade a bomb, anybody could build ut anyway and disobey him?

Are you trying to fool me or yourself? Honestly.
 
Falcon29 said:
I don't think it was allowed. An attack Iran was planned/scheduled for Trump's second term. Israel was somewhat afraid of Hezbollah. But the aftermath of Oct 7 made conditions more favorable.

We should remind everyone all 'Oct.7' was, was a targeted strike on the IDF southern division (the military bases of Israel around the city and some security/government targets in the South.

The Israeli attack on Gaza was planned ahead of time, meaning they always planned such a criminal assault because they believed it would succeed in forcing Palestinians out of Gaza. Netanyahu was hoping this way that Egypt would be forced/pressured to take in Palestinians. In other words Israel committed genocide with the hopes it would facilitate an expulsion of Palestinian population out of Gaza. That's why they killed so many people.

They did not do it for a military objective or even out of anger. Which makes it even more evil and unforgivable.
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Oct 7 gave Israeli people support for Iran war.
Without Oct 7, Iran war could have been impossible.

Maybe some people dont remember. but in 2011-2013 it was very near a israeli first strike against Iran, but some Israel important public figures opposed, like Simon Peres.

In 2017 they were scheming again (Tehran terrorist attacks in June), but sanity prevailed against war.

After Oct 7, nobody dared to stop Israel attack agaisnt Iran anymore.
 
fitpOsitive said:
I am sorry guys, but I will write what I am seeing. Seems like Gen Hameed Gul was right about Iran.
USA has started buying Russian oil. Sooner or later Europe will also start doing it.
Iran is busy destroying neighboring Muslim countries. By the closure of strait of Hormuz who is paying the heaviest price? Arabs. Isn't that what Israel want? And how many attacks Iran did against Israel vs Arabs?
Chinese are also target of this financial-terrorism.

I think it's time to take back Pakistans support from Iran and let happen what happens with Iran. I am sorry, but Iran is harming Muslim countries more.
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Muslim countries that facilitate Zio-US-Wahabi axis of evil - are the enemy within.
 
Khorasan Black Flags said:
Some feeling tells me an all out war is very close

Islamabad MoU was a grave mistake
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What was the better course of action?

US & Israel used a ton of munitions during the initial stage of the war, it's doubtful to me that they have enough ordnance for more than 2 weeks of bombing.
 
Immortals said:
Let me know how many rupees LPG is tomorrow and I will tell you if Pakistan will be facing problems with its energy relationship with Iran. By the way the border is not fully open yet either. There are several border crossings not just one.

Iran will not lower LPG price after Pakistan has been throttling the border for weeks even before this so called security shut down. I told this very board and everyone denied it and then shut down happened and now you are hiding behind a BS excuse of security. But the truth is traffic has been slowed for weeks and Pakistan border officials were asking for higher tariffs from Iranian and Pakistan drivers to let them thru.

Let Munir ask the Americans for LPG now since that who he cares more about. Maybe Sharif can create a Pakistan Peace Prize and award it to Trump.
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LPG is Important

That border has been a VITAL link for both countries and for Iran in this trying period


But let's be clear, the enemies have been switched on,
The enemies of Iran want the Kurds and Baloch to rise up against Iran

Both iran and Pakistan have MUTUAL enemies


I am telling you something has been picked up by the ISI that warrants increased Pakistani security scrutiny


We need to make sure the border is not a free for all,,

The border is OPEN traffic is directed through the main routes where we can implement increased security measures



Pakistan may try to balance its relationship with everyone
Remember we are not a oil or gas power and are reliant on trade with the world including the U.S and Europe

But at the end of the day IRAN is our direct neighbor and it does not serve our strategic interests to see Iran destroyed or fall
 
Zartosht said:
Hajizadeh gave khamenei ( his boss with unlimited power to promote or demote him) personal credit for Irans missile program.

It wasnt ahmadi moghadam. It was khamenei when he told hajizadeh that “ im asking you for accuracy not more range” or some bs along those lines.

A leader takes responsibility. Khamenei is never responsible for anything.

He is the commander in chief of every branch of the police/security and inteligence forces but bears no respondibility.

He has sole veto power over any state policy but bears ni responisiblity.

He can literally dismiss any official including the president with a single stroke of his pen, but bears no responsibility.

He personally makes all final choices on major state policies, but bera no responsibility.

He got into a fight with ahmadinejad, and ended his career after ahmadinejad tried to use his consittutional power to change the intel minister. One of the few security elements in in civilian hands but unofficially picked by khamenei…. But of course he bears no responisiblity….

Are you seriously telling me or anyone with a shred of knowledge on a Iranian politics that

A: if khamenei wanted to build a bomb, anybody could stop him?

Or B: if he forbade a bomb, anybody could build ut anyway and disobey him?

Are you trying to fool me or yourself? Honestly.
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The Supreme Leader of Iran does not possess powers beyond those granted to him by the Constitution. The formulation of overarching state policies falls under the leadership's purview, and he has exercised his constitutional authorities in very few instances. In practice, however, regarding the implementation of laws, unless national security faces an immediate threat, full authority rests with the ministers and the President. Mentioning these specific cases amounts to only a few incidents over the past twenty years. The law, rather than any particular individual, determines whose opinion is final. It is entirely clear and evident what responsibilities and powers each official holds within the framework of the Constitution.

Furthermore, compared to countries like the United Kingdom and other European nations that remain monarchies to this day, Iran is among the freest countries in the world. Instead of resorting to insults, a little bit of reflection wouldn't hurt. If you take a look at Iran's surrounding region and compare it with neighboring countries, you will realize how valuable security is, especially given the many adversaries surrounding Iran.
 
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