Where is Pakistan headed in the China-Türkiye relationship?

[MH.Yang]

Even as the Ottoman empire at its peak it had no effect on xinjiang. Today turkey having any effect on xinjiang is laughable. They have big kurdish demographic problem and would hate for others to call for kurdish independence within Turkey.

The Ottoman Empire banned the historical narrative of Turkic origins; this lie came from Kemal.

 

[Sainthood 2.0]

I understand your concerns and with this thing being blown way out of proportion. Netizens can argue to the moon with all and whatever, but it does not change any facts on the ground.
I've said it before many times on this forum too, that Pakistan will always respect and not interfere with anything to do with Chinese sovereignty matters or its foreign policies and how it conducts its businesses with others. There is great collaboration between our 2 nations on pretty much everything in geopolitics, and they are extremely important for each other. We do believe China is very capable to handle everything on its own, and i don't think anyone will challenge the Giant that is China now. If anyone does they are extremely foolish.
Its been proven that China's advancements in pretty much every sphere of life, technology and military advancement has shocked the world, and the world witnessed a very small glimpse of Chinese military weaponry/power last year.

Even when entire world many times, eggs on Pakistan and accuses us of silence on "uighur muslims", Pakistan does not interfere and lets China handle her internal affairs. They can never succeed in creating any rift between the iron brothers.

Unfortunately the Turkish nation is at some crossroads, with ottoman dna and their issues with cyprus and now israel is now testing them and they should rather build stronger relations with China, and not create issues or tensions. We will see alot of 5th columns try and instigate stuff and create unnecessary issues and conflicts and its really not a surprise. I am 200% sure we will be able to weather this storm in a tea cup and this won't turn into anything more than just some arguments by people online. China is going to continue to play its role of an emerging superpower for the betterment of the world.

We simply cannot afford to have such issues, and i hope the people in both nations realize that and focus on the bigger threat to the world which is netanyahu/israel.
I really don't see this becoming much of an issue, let alone a problem for any of the countries. Rather, we have concern for our Turk brothers due to them being in NATO.......we know the europeans will never accept them into the EU as its a muslim nation. Turkey's interests lie in middle east and west asia and with its muslim brotherly countries.

Pakistan can always play a great mediator role between the 2 to calm things down and rather make them great friends, if not already so.

I used AI to go through what China did for Pakistan every decade from 70s-2000s onwards and every war (65,71, 25)
And except for kargil conflict they were pretty much our greatest strength besides our own people. They want above and beyond of what is expected from even a friendly country.

I know they don't share our faith, culture, civilization or political system but when the going gets tough for Pakistan
Ik they'll be there as they were there when we weren't even born from our parents/grandparents times

We can't thank them enough.
I like turkey too don't get me wrong but China is a whole different level of a friend to our nation for decades.

I hope we can be a bridge between the two truly great countries.
Internet nationalists are pricks anyways

 

[ety]

Trying to challenge China today? Maybe check your own weight first.

They have strange logic. Greece is claiming and occupying nearly all the islands in the Aegean sea and draw borders right to the front door to within like 2 KM from Turkey's coastlines severely restricting the passages of its naval power ambitions and its access to the sea, yet Turks dare not to challenge this seemed like an unfair arrangement and are perfectly fine to tolerate it. At the same time, they want to challenge China and are eyeing to claim Chinese provinces that are disconnected from Turkey, close to 6000 km away and it has no legal and historical bases, lol.

 

[Abdul q]

We will sign defence pact with china and ask turkey to join it…

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The Ottoman Empire banned the historical narrative of Turkic origins; this lie came from Kemal.

The Pan-Turkism has become the main ideology in the post-Ottoman Turkey.

Many Turkish members now can legally claim that they want to embrace the Tengrism, and this was beyond imagination during the traditional Islamic Ottoman era.

 

[Ravenman]

I really dont understand the Chinese mass hysteria. If you are a great civillization what you always claim, than you shouldnt run off like a headless chicken crying about every insult. Ask Deep Seek about Winnie The Pooh or the Tianmen protest than you will understand what I mean.

China built a part of their Great Wall mostly against nomadic Turkic clans (Mao-Dun and his Xiongnu friends) and East-Turkestan is the homeground of The Uyghurs, but they are a part of PRC now.

There is no danger for little kids to see that part as East-Turkestan, but the Chinese soul is like the Israeli soul afraid of everything. If a teenager throws a rock against a Merkava Tank, they will classified as a national security risk.

Same problem with the Chinese when a Uygur calls himself Turkish. The next day he will be visited by a yellow Han-Chinese houseguest who wants to sleep over.

 

[ety]

I really dont understand the Chinese mass hysteria. If you are a great civillization what you always claim, than you shouldnt run off like a headless chicken crying about every insult. Ask Deep Seek about Winnie The Pooh or the Tianmen protest than you will understand what I mean.

China built a part of their Great Wall mostly against nomadic Turkic clans (Mao-Dun and his Xiongnu friends) and East-Turkestan is the homeground of The Uyghurs, but they are a part of PRC now.

There is no danger for little kids to see that part as East-Turkestan, but the Chinese soul is like the Israeli soul afraid of everything. If a teenager throws a rock against a Merkava Tank, they will classified as a national security risk.

Same problem with the Chinese when a Uygur calls himself Turkish. The next day he will be visited by a yellow Han-Chinese houseguest who wants to sleep over.

All nonsense, lol. An Uyghur girl on the X told a Turkish person she is Chinese indeed, and doesn't identify herself with Turkey or Turkic. She was subsequently bullied by a large number of Turks went on the X to condemn her. That started the whole internet war. Don't twist things around.


Yes, an online incident involving a young Uyghur woman sparked a massive internet dispute on X (formerly Twitter) between Turkish and Chinese social media users. [1, 2]

The Incident

The online clash began in mid-October 2026. A Turkish X user posted about an encounter with a Uyghur woman from Xinjiang. The user noted that she did not look Chinese, but when asked if she considered herself Turkic, the woman responded, “No, I’m Chinese,” and told him not to ask weird questions. [1, 2, 3]

The Turkish user grew angry, criticized her response, and publicly called on her to "return to her roots". This post went viral, amassing over 2 million views before the account was deleted. [1]

The perceived harassment and policing of the Uyghur woman's identity quickly snowballed into a widespread geopolitical "war of words" on X.

 

[wangdefa]

It is evident that Turkish Pan-Turkism has spread to the level of official state institutions, and the implementation plan in textbooks has clearly triggered a red line for the Chinese government. I believe that this is no longer just a matter of online disputes among the public; the Chinese government will definitely take a series of actions next.
The Chinese government is taking action, and I believe Turkey will find it very difficult to cope next.


As you said, this is a gathering of military enthusiasts, and I won’t be presenting such a controversial viewpoint here. The cause of this incident has been documented on Twitter, and China excels at recording everything related to history. This debate is meaningless. What I want to say is that this incident has garnered significant attention in China, and people have started to wonder how it happened, even though the controversial Turkish user has already deactivated his account. However, the traces of his involvement in this matter cannot be erased.

 

[Anatolia]

What I want to say is that this incident has garnered significant attention in China, and people have started to wonder how it happened,

Is this really big news in China?

 

[Michael]

Is this really big news in China?

A Twitter war between China and Turkey? — No! That’s hardly news.

The Turkish textbook incident? — The situation is currently escalating. Today, a second Chinese state-run media outlet has weighed in. However, China’s top-tier state media outlets have yet to get involved.

Today, with the sudden "Mbappe incident" dominating the headlines, the Turkish incident has not yet garnered much attention.

 

[King Vahram]

Initially, I was enjoying the online war between Turkey and China. It was all fun and jokes, but now it's becoming increasingly disturbing. I've seen violent comments coming from both sides, and I don't know what triggered this escalation. It doesn't seem like just a simple online campaign anymore. Something might have happened that sparked this hostility.

 

[mythbuster]

Obviously the Uygur issue is what has the Chinese in fits. They fear a revived Turkiye could one day stretch towards the occupied region of eastern Turkestan.

Things like the Mecca Pact only compound this anxiety. Personally I think its unwarranted, Turks uniting and the wider Muslim world uniting is not about challenging anyone, its about protecting the sovereignty and dignity of the Muslim world.

A united Turkic/Muslim world could stand up alone against any non-Muslim transgressor be it Zionist dominated USA or A Jewish(Karl Marx) ideologically inspired Communist China.

What Muslims cannot afford to do is remain divided from one another, that has been terrible for all Muslims involved.

You don't need to add another layer in Chinese paranoia... it's irritating for Pakistan to juggle between you two.

 

[RocketLaw]

Yes absolutely - Pakistan will help both precious important friends - China and Turkey!

Mediation ready?

 

[Pioneer]

Yes absolutely - Pakistan will help both precious important friends - China and Turkey!

Mediation ready?

1. Can you make Turkish textbooks respect history?

2. Can you make Turkey stop interfering in China's internal affairs and abandoning its pan-Turkish dreams?

3. Can you make Türkiye focus on Kurdish and Gaza?

 

[Pioneer]

Is this really big news in China?

We will not write "Kurdish does not belong to Türkiye" in our textbooks. If we do this, then you can talk about it.