Israel vs Turkey: The Battle for Cypru

[Yasser76]

Which Russian plane turks are shooting.... last I heard they shot down only sukhoi 24 in 2015....

I too can say you are biased about Turkey.... when in clear broad day light we see where Turkiye stands infront of Isreal when it comes to platforms and war readiness.... Turkiye is second largest NATO force only on paper but with most outdated equipment and white America and other Christian States has ensured this purposely.....

Even Turkiye knows the realities and hence so much effort for domestic industry which is off course appreciated.... but unless and until they reach the level of china war with Isreal will be their worst mistake....

No, not biased at all, just dont make war comparisons by "this plane is better then that plane"

Look at a frickin map. If it was a drawn out war Israel would need other powers to help and resupply it. Turks can fight for years and have land borders with plenty of nations who will help it. Look at Israels borders.

Now look at how big Turkiye is, it can store assets as far away as the Bulgarian border. Look how close all of Israel is to Turkiye.

Turks will have plenty of nations rushing to replenish them, Israel will be at the mercy of US, so your whole crazy little teenage boy theory litterally depends on if the US will help Israel go to war over Cyprus against another NATO power.

You need to study more, of if, as i suspect you are a young chap, best leave threads like this to others

 

[Nimble]

No, not biased at all, just dont make war comparisons by "this plane is better then that plane"

Look at a frickin map. If it was a drawn out war Israel would need other powers to help and resupply it. Turks can fight for years and have land borders with plenty of nations who will help it. Look at Israels borders.

Now look at how big Turkiye is, it can store assets as far away as the Bulgarian border. Look how close all of Israel is to Turkiye.

Turks will have plenty of nations rushing to replenish them, Israel will be at the mercy of US, so your whole crazy little teenage boy theory litterally depends on if the US will help Israel go to war over Cyprus against another NATO power.

You need to study more, of if, as i suspect you are a young chap, best leave threads like this to others

See how big Iran is.... almost twice the size of Turkiye and doesn't even share borders with Israel but still Isreal managed to hit anywhere they wanted..... for Turkiye only small Mediterranean is in between.....

Cyprus is far easy target for Israel compared to Iran.... and about Turkiye moving it's assets to near Bulgaria then it's just a geography you are showing..... can Turkiye seriously fight by putting everything near Bulgaria? And we should not underestimate Greece threat here in that case.....

Isreal is small but knows how to utilize everything with its offensive doctrine and not giving enemies even a time to breath..... they got solid weapons, solid training and solid support from America....

 

[Ali_Baba]

See how big Iran is.... almost twice the size of Turkiye and doesn't even share borders with Israel but still Isreal managed to hit anywhere they wanted..... for Turkiye only small Mediterranean is in between.....

Cyprus is far easy target for Israel compared to Iran.... and about Turkiye moving it's assets to near Bulgaria then it's just a geography you are showing..... can Turkiye seriously fight by putting everything near Bulgaria? And we should not underestimate Greece threat here in that case.....

Isreal is small but knows how to utilize everything with its offensive doctrine and not giving enemies even a time to breath..... they got solid weapons, solid training and solid support from America....

Israel in the 12 day war, could only last 12 days against Iran before it was desperate for the war to stop. Israel did not suffer much damage in the 12 day war either yet they were desperate for the war to stop. Türkiye can and will hit, and hit hard and it will cause real substantive damage. The Turks will fight the war properly and aim to win. Israel has no immunity against Türkiye and now, it will also have to contend with the Makkah partners who will help Türkiye....

Maybe India can help Israel?

 

[Nimble]

Israel in the 12 day war, could only last 12 days against Iran before it was desperate for the war to stop. Israel did not suffer much damage in the 12 day war either yet they were desperate for the war to stop. Türkiye can and will hit, and hit hard and it will cause real substantive damage. The Turks will fight the war properly and aim to win. Israel has no immunity against Türkiye and now, it will also have to contend with the Makkah partners who will help Türkiye....

Maybe India can help Israel?

India off course cannot help Isreal as it lacks power projection capability and Israel has far more powerful ally in the form of America.... apart from this we don't believe in signing pacts that can't be honored when it's required....

About Iran.... yes as j said Iran is a smart country who studied all the war patterns and prepared itself with solid domestic missile and drone industry and maintained everything under ground.... Turkiye doesn't even have a fraction of missiles and drone capability of Iran so Isreal will be very comfortable against Turkiye actually....

 

[Yasser76]

See how big Iran is.... almost twice the size of Turkiye and doesn't even share borders with Israel but still Isreal managed to hit anywhere they wanted..... for Turkiye only small Mediterranean is in between.....

Cyprus is far easy target for Israel compared to Iran.... and about Turkiye moving it's assets to near Bulgaria then it's just a geography you are showing..... can Turkiye seriously fight by putting everything near Bulgaria? And we should not underestimate Greece threat here in that case.....

Isreal is small but knows how to utilize everything with its offensive doctrine and not giving enemies even a time to breath..... they got solid weapons, solid training and solid support from America....

How retarded are you? Really, on a level of 1-10?

Israel alone hit everywhere in Iran did they?

Cut the Israel loving propoganda, its clouding your already severely hampred judgement

 

[Ali_Baba]

Turkish Invasion of Cyprus | The Complete ITN Frontline Footage Collection (1974)​

>> It being a British channel, will be very biased against Turkiye of course, but interesting nonetheless if you have not seen this before.

 

[MMM-E]

Turkiye-Cyprus Distance : 70 km

tiny Countries like Israel can not do anything in the Eastern Mediterranean



All Israeli AD Systems and Air Bases can be destroyed by 30.000 Turkish long range kamikaze Drones SIVRISINEK , MIZRAK , SIMSEK-K , KUZGUN , K-2 and BORA , TAYFUN , CENK , GEZGIN , ATMACA-UM , SOM , 300-ER , SUPER LIGHTNING Ballistic-Cruise Missiles


and Israel will become a lame Duck without Air Force

then ground invasion of Israel will start via Syria


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There are 40.000 Turkish troops in Cyprus to kick all daydreamers


16 Frigates , 4 Corvettes , 14 Submarines to block the enemy Navy to access Cyprus


TAYFUN Block-3 hypersonic anti-ship Ballistic Missiles can turn all enemy Warships to into scrap of metal ( BARAK-8 and ASTER-30 can not intercept this hypersonic Missile )

CAKIR and ATMACA land based anti-ship Missiles also are ready


Israel can not reach Cyprus to fight Turkish troops ,,, not even in their dreams

 

[Anatolia]

Turkiye-Cyprus Distance : 70 km

tiny Countries like Israel can not do anything in the Eastern Mediterranean



All Israeli AD Systems and Air Bases can be destroyed by 30.000 Turkish long range kamikaze Drones SIVRISINEK , MIZRAK , SIMSEK-K , KUZGUN , K-2 and BORA , TAYFUN , CENK , GEZGIN , ATMACA-UM , SOM , 300-ER , SUPER LIGHTNING Ballistic-Cruise Missiles


and Israel will become a lame Duck without Air Force

then ground invasion of Israel will start via Syria


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There are 40.000 Turkish troops in Cyprus to kick all daydreamers


16 Frigates , 4 Corvettes , 14 Submarines to block the enemy Navy to access Cyprus


TAYFUN Block-3 hypersonic anti-ship Ballistic Missiles can turn all enemy Warships to into scrap of metal ( BARAK-8 and ASTER-30 can not intercept this hypersonic Missile )

CAKIR and ATMACA land based anti-ship Missiles also are ready


Israel can not reach Cyprus to fight Turkish troops ,,, not even in their dreams

Do you have proof that Aliyev's daughter married a Jew?

 

[Yasser76]

Turkiye-Cyprus Distance : 70 km

tiny Countries like Israel can not do anything in the Eastern Mediterranean



All Israeli AD Systems and Air Bases can be destroyed by 30.000 Turkish long range kamikaze Drones SIVRISINEK , MIZRAK , SIMSEK-K , KUZGUN , K-2 and BORA , TAYFUN , CENK , GEZGIN , ATMACA-UM , SOM , 300-ER , SUPER LIGHTNING Ballistic-Cruise Missiles


and Israel will become a lame Duck without Air Force

then ground invasion of Israel will start via Syria


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There are 40.000 Turkish troops in Cyprus to kick all daydreamers


16 Frigates , 4 Corvettes , 14 Submarines to block the enemy Navy to access Cyprus


TAYFUN Block-3 hypersonic anti-ship Ballistic Missiles can turn all enemy Warships to into scrap of metal ( BARAK-8 and ASTER-30 can not intercept this hypersonic Missile )

CAKIR and ATMACA land based anti-ship Missiles also are ready


Israel can not reach Cyprus to fight Turkish troops ,,, not even in their dreams

I was afraid this thread would trigger you

 

[MMM-E]

Turkiye is second largest NATO force only on paper but with most outdated equipment

Turkiye has and gets the best equipment in NATO ( with USA ) to turn Israeli Air Defense Systems and Air Bases into scrap of metal


Unique Missile fire power in Europe
-- 500+ km 300-ER air launched high supersonic Ballistic Missile with TV seeker to hit even moving Warships and AD Systems ilke BARAK-MX , DAVID SLING , ARROW-3 from safe distance


-- 560-800 km TAYFUN Block-1 and TAYFUN Block-2 Ballistic Missiles
also ,1500-2000 km TAYFUN Block-4 and CENK hypersonic MRBMS on the way

1000 kg thermobaric warhead blast reaches 3,000°C delivering near-nuclear level destruction without crossing the nuclear threshold



-- 800 km TAYFUN Block-3 hypersonic anti-ship Ballistic Missile to turn enemy Navy into scrap of metal ( BARAK-8 and ASTER-30 can not intercept this hypersonic Missile )



-- 1.000 km GEZGIN land attack Cruise Missile


also , SOM , CAKIR and ATMACA-UM Cruise Missiles with indigenous turbojet engines
( only USA , Turkiye and France in NATO )


Long range kamikaze Drones
-- 1,000 km SIVRISINEK
-- 1,000 km KUZGUN
-- 1,000 km MIZRAK
-- 1,000 km SUPER LIGHTNING
-- 2,000 km K-2

No any Country can stop 15,000 long range kamikaze drones
if needed , In terms of infrastructure, industry and technology, Türkiye possesses more than enough capacity to produce 30,000 kamikaze drones annually


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SIPER-2 / S-400 Air Defense Systems
By deploying SIPER-2 air defense Systems with the ALP-300G and ALP-400G Radars in the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, it becomes impossible for Israeli F-35s to reach Turkiye via the Eastern Mediterranean

also , If the USA does not deliver the F-35s to Türkiye, the S-400s should be deployed in Mersin. they would both protect the AKKUYU Nuclear Power Plant and establish an A2/AD zone in the Eastern Mediterranean.



Turkiye-Israel distance : 500 km
Iran-Israel distance : 1200-1500 km

 

[Yasser76]

Turkiye has and gets the best equipment in NATO ( with USA ) to turn Israeli Air Defense Systems and Air Bases into scrap of metal


Unique Missiles fire power in Europe
-- 500+ km 300-ER air launched high supersonic Ballistic Missile with TV seeker to hit even moving Warships and AD Systems ilke BARAK-MX , DAVID SLING , ARROW-3 from safe distance
View attachment 221050

-- 560-800 km TAYFUN Block-1 and TAYFUN Block-2 Ballistic Missiles
also ,1500-2000 km TAYFUN Block-4 and CENK hypersonic MRBMS on the way
View attachment 221058
1000 kg thermobaric warhead blast reaches 3,000°C delivering near-nuclear level destruction without crossing the nuclear threshold
View attachment 221060


-- 800 km TAYFUN Block-3 hypersonic anti-ship Ballistic Missile to turn enemy Navy into scrap of metal ( BARAK-8 and ASTER-30 can not intercept this hypersonic Missile )
View attachment 221052


-- 1.000 km GEZGIN land attack Cruise Missile
View attachment 221051

also , SOM , CAKIR and ATMACA-UM Cruise Missiles with indigenous turbojet engines
( only USA , Turkiye and France in NATO )


Long range kamikaze Drones
-- 1,000 km SIVRISINEK
-- 1,000 km KUZGUN
-- 1,000 km MIZRAK
-- 1,000 km SUPER LIGHTNING
-- 2,000 km K-2

No any Country can stop 15,000 long range kamikaze drones
if needed , In terms of infrastructure, industry and technology, Türkiye possesses more than enough capacity to produce 30,000 kamikaze drones annually


---------------------------------------------------------------

SIPER-2 / S-400 Air Defense Systems
By deploying SIPER-2 air defense Systems with the ALP-300G and ALP-400G Radars in the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, it becomes impossible for Israeli F-35s to reach Turkiye via the Eastern Mediterranean

also , If the USA does not deliver the F-35s to Türkiye, the S-400s should be deployed in Mersin. they would both protect the AKKUYU Nuclear Power Plant and establish an A2/AD zone in the Eastern Mediterranean.
View attachment 221062


Turkiye-Israel distance : 500 km
Iran-Israel distance : 1200-1500 km

It is not just platform v platform, Turkiye has built the massive industrial base and infra to sustain this. Israel cannot manufacture of a mass basis, as was shown with they interceptir usage

 

[MMM-E]

Turkiye is second largest NATO force only on paper but with most outdated equipment

-- Turkiye has the best UCAV fleet in Europe
-- Turkiye has the best Attack Helicopter fleet in Europe

-- Turkiye has developed its own STEEL DOME Air Defense Umbrella to intercept Fighter Jets , UCAVs , Cruise Missiles , etc

KORKUT , SUNGUR , GURZ , CIRIT-IHA , SAHIN , HISAR-A , HISAR-O , SIPER
with most modern AESA Radars and HAKIM C4ISR sensor fusion


-- Turkish Air Force has 4 Boeing E-7T AEWC
also , ALP-200A airborne early warning Radar System under development


-- ASOJ-23A stand off jammer Aircraft ..... ( only USA and Turkiye in ANTO )
4 ASOJ-23A can blind or severely degrade the EL/M-2080 Green Pine Radars supporting the ARROW-3 AD Systems in Tel Aviv and Nevatim Airbase from 400-500 km away

also , KORAL-200 mobile Radar Electronic Warfare System is unique in Europe


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The Turkish Air Force gets new weapons between 2027 and 2030

-- 200 OZGUR-2 modernized F-16s ( block70 standard )
-- 44 Eurofighters
-- 20+20 KAAN
-- 80 ANKA-III
-- 50 KIZILELMA
-- armed version of the HURJET

also , 40 new F-16V
even maybe the F-35s

Turkiye is one of leading Countries ( USA-Turkiye ) in NATO with MUM-T concept

 

[Yasser76]

-- Turkiye has the best UCAV fleet in Europe
-- Turkiye has the best Attack Helicopter fleet in Europe

-- Turkiye has developed its own STEEL DOME Air Defense Umbrella to intercept Fighter Jets , UCAVs , Cruise Missiles , etc

KORKUT , SUNGUR , GURZ , CIRIT-IHA , SAHIN , HISAR-A , HISAR-O , SIPER
with most modern AESA Radars and HAKIM C4ISR sensor fusion


-- Turkish Air Force has 4 Boeing E-7T AEWC
also , ALP-200A airborne early warning Radar System under development


-- ASOJ-23A stand off jammer Aircraft ..... ( only USA and Turkiye in ANTO )
4 ASOJ-23A can blind or severely degrade the EL/M-2080 Green Pine Radars supporting the ARROW-3 AD Systems in Tel Aviv and Nevatim Airbase from 400-500 km away

also , KORAL-200 mobile Radar Electronic Warfare System is unique in Europe


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The Turkish Air Force gets new weapons between 2027 and 2030

-- 200 OZGUR-2 modernized F-16s ( block70 standard )
-- 44 Eurofighters
-- 20+20 KAAN
-- 80 ANKA-III
-- 50 KIZILELMA
-- armed version of the HURJET

also , 40 new F-16V
even maybe the F-35s

Turkiye is one of leading Countries ( USA-Turkiye ) in NATO with MUM-T concept

Dont take the bait, this @Nimble clown is a wind up merchant and no idea what he is talking about, he needs your attention

 

[MMM-E]

It is not just platform v platform, Turkiye has built the massive industrial base and infra to sustain this. Israel cannot manufacture of a mass basis, as was shown with they interceptir usage

Turkiye also became a member of two pacts with muslim Countries

The Mecca Defence Alliance
Turkiye , Pakistan , Saudi Arabia

The Badr Pact
Turkiye , Pakistan , Qatar , Indonesia

In the event of a potential war, thousands of cruise and ballistic Missiles and long range kamikazr drones ...... even air defense missiles would be sent to Turkiye from other countries.


Through technology transfer, these countries will be able to produce advanced weapons systems and also provide assistance to one another in the event of a potential war.

 

[Yasser76]

Turkiye also became a member of two pacts with muslim Countries

The Mecca Defence Alliance
Turkiye , Pakistan , Saudi Arabia

The Badr Pact
Turkiye , Pakistan , Qatar , Indonesia

In the event of a potential war, thousands of cruise and ballistic Missiles and long range kamikazr drones ...... even air defense missiles would be sent to Turkiye from other countries.


Through technology transfer, these countries will be able to produce advanced weapons systems and also provide assistance to one another in the event of a potential war.

For sure, this is one of the many advantage of the pact, Turkish forces can be supplied with compatible munitions from Pak factories increasing both mass and resiliance.