Hardline Rabbi Says Israeli Jews Should Support Pakistan over India in a War

[I*R*A]

God(s) needs nothing, yet humans are desperate for everyone to submit to him. And even funnier how they get so worked up when some random person insults their God. For an omnipotent being, he seems remarkably dependent on human bodyguards. First he needs to exists, then we can debate whether he deserves worship.

Okay convince me, why HE doesn't exist?

Everything around you and your own being is proof of existence. So bring some evidence of non existence.

 

[vasanthm]

Okay convince me, why HE doesn't exist?

Everything around you and your own being is proof of existence. So bring some evidence of non existence.

As though there's anything I could say that would make you believe otherwise. You've already decided the answer. You're just looking for ways to justify it.

 

[I*R*A]

As though there's anything I could say that would make you believe otherwise. You've already decided the answer. You're just looking for ways to justify it.

I did not decide the answer, the answer already existed before me and everything and will exist after me and everything, I just accepted and submitted myself.

So you do not have anything? I said convince me, and I gave you an undeniable fact to start with, your own existence. Now convince me of non existence.

You can also progress from nothing to something. Or you can keep bowing to your spaghetti before boiling it.

 

[K2RULEZ]

I did not decide the answer, the answer already existed before me and everything and will exist after me and everything, I just accepted and submitted myself.

So you do not have anything? I said convince me, and I gave you an undeniable fact to start with, your own existence. Now convince me of non existence.

You can also progress from nothing to something. Or you can keep bowing to your spaghetti before boiling it.

 

[vasanthm]

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I like the pic, I'm not sure what the blasphemy laws are for my Spaghetti God. Is breaking pasta in half punishable by death, or is that sort of thing reserved for other gods?

 

[vasanthm]

I did not decide the answer, the answer already existed before me and everything and will exist after me and everything, I just accepted and submitted myself.

So you do not have anything? I said convince me, and I gave you an undeniable fact to start with, your own existence. Now convince me of non existence.

You can also progress from nothing to something. Or you can keep bowing to your spaghetti before boiling it.

There are far smarter and more articulate people than me who've explained this stuff. Humour yourself with a copy of Christopher Hitchens God Is Not Great. And my existence proves I exist, not that your God does. Bit of a leap there, don't you think?

 

[K2RULEZ]

I like the pic, I'm not sure what the blasphemy laws are for my Spaghetti God. Is breaking pasta in half punishable by death, or is that sort of thing reserved for other gods?

They should hang you for this blasphemy.

 

[vasanthm]

They should hang you for this blasphemy.

Wouldn't surprise me if, a thousand years from now, people are worshipping a spaghetti and meatball god and hanging anyone who makes fun of it. Give a myth enough time and it might becomes sacred.

 

[I*R*A]

There are far smarter and more articulate people than me who've explained this stuff. Humour yourself with a copy of Christopher Hitchens God Is Not Great. And my existence proves I exist, not that your God does. Bit of a leap there, don't you think?

It is not a matter of better articulation, it is simple matter of common sense, you do not need to be a scientist for that. I do not find people who believe in nothing but everything came into being out of that nothing, intelligent.

What were you before you existed, how did you come into existence, who made sure you exist? It is all connected. No leaps, plain simple common sense.

 

[vasanthm]

It is not a matter of better articulation, it is simple matter of common sense, you do not need to be a scientist for that. I do not find people who believe in nothing but everything came into being out of that nothing, intelligent.

What were you before you existed, how did you come into existence, who made sure you exist? It is all connected. No leaps, plain simple common sense.

Where did 'god' come into existence from?

Is you god the only right and true one because you happen to be born into the 'right' culture/place?

 

[I*R*A]

Where did 'god' come into existence from?

Is you god the only right and true one because you happen to be born into the 'right' culture/place?

Have you discovered the creation first, that you are trying to understand how God came into existence?

All the good names are for God, your name for HIM may be right too, as long as you do not associate any partners with HIM.

 

[vasanthm]

Have you discovered the creation first, that you are trying to understand how God came into existence?

All the good names are for God, your name for HIM may be right too, as long as you do not associate any partners with HIM.

Humans are remarkably good at inventing explanations for things we don't understand. Over the centuries science has steadily filled those gaps. But our instinct to form tribes and rally around shared belief and ideas is much harder to shake. After all it's a trait that helped us survive for hundreds of thousands of years and selected naturally. Doesn't make those beliefs true though.

 

[I*R*A]

Humans are remarkably good at inventing explanations for things we don't understand. Over the centuries science has steadily filled those gaps. But our instinct to form tribes and rally around shared belief and ideas is much harder to shake. After all it's a trait that helped us survive for hundreds of thousands of years and selected naturally. Doesn't make those beliefs true though.

Science is the discovery of what God has already created. Any discovery that has proven God doesn't exist?

God cannot be and is not defined by what humans have invented for HIM. Again how do you justify your being into existence? And what for?

 

[vasanthm]

Science is the discovery of what God has already created. Any discovery that has proven God doesn't exist?

God cannot be and is not defined by what humans have invented for HIM. Again how do you justify your being into existence? Anad what for?

Science doesn't claim to have disproved God. It just doesn't need one to explain how the universe works. And my existence is evidence that my parents reproduced, not that some invisible being created me for a grand purpose. You're the one claiming God exists, so the burden of proof is on you. Otherwise, I could just as easily claim the Spaghetti Monster created everything. How would you prove me wrong?

 

[Feroze]

This is not an unexpected position. If you go by their theology, like in Islam, there is no sin bigger than idol worship or holding equals to God Almighty. This is also the reason that while Jews can visit a mosque, they cannot visit a church or a hindu temple.
In terms of the centrality of monotheism, it is Islam first and then Judaism. So lots of key things are left off on account of geo-pols and narrative of the Zionists.

I agree with you. Jews have more in common with Muslims than with Hindus.

So this is not surprising. Remember Judaism has nothing to do with Israel or with Zionism.