Iran launches Operation True Promise - massive missile/drone strikes across Israel, Israel allegedly responds with quadcopters

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I am not saying Iran is not capable or won’t retaliate but

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Common man ! of all places in this World , India was the last one that I expected this.you guys are supposed to be the tolerant ones ..

A little bit of history :

Khamenei: Israel won’t survive next 25 years (at 2015)​




by the looks of it someone was in a hurry while other side was doing just fine
 
What do you mean by a country like Pakistan? Do you think making a nuclear bomb under so much pressure, treaties, sanctions, economic problems, and what not is easy? You need to study about Pakistan's nuclear programme as well as the difficult conditions/environment under which Pakistan became a nuclear power.

Who said it was easy? but Pakistan was allowed to get away with it because the generals are in the Western camp while Iran is not.
 
Because this time around Israel is involved. There will be no compromise on obedience.
Lol, don't think that everyone is obedient servants like you.

I don't like current Israeli and Irani adminstrations. They are both religious nutjobs.

That said, Iran doesn't have balls for anything. We saw many times, at best they can make some 3d animation of destruction of Israel.
 
Who said it was easy? but Pakistan was allowed to get away with it because the generals are in the Western camp while Iran is not.


It depends on what you want to listen. If you wan't to dwell on rumours or fantasies, then you may as well say," USA or china gave it, north Korea shared it with them." You could go on for days, at length
But, in reality after seperation of east wing of pakistan, pakistan observed the hypocritical conduct of west, so it decided to rely on no one. They needed a nuclear deterrence, to avoid any indian intervention, and for national security. So, a program was made.
Then, in 1974, india tested it's very first nuclear weapons, so for pakistan it was a death emblem. With the historic words from bhutto spoken,"we may eat grass, but we will make an atomic bomb."
From here, it was fullspeed ahead. A nuclear cooperation treaty with china helped but pakistan created it's very own weapon. Some claim it by 1980, a large proportion believes it was 1984, but it was never revealed when. In 1998, pakistan tested it's nuclear devices weeks after india conducted fresh tests. Who knows, perhaps pakistan had completed it's nuclear weapons in 1997, the main thing is it was done and pakistan obtained hard-earned nuclear weapons without any countries direct intervention.
 
I am less concerned about F-15 than F-35

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through which route will they fly with dozens of F-15s and aerial refuelling tankers?

I doubt those f15 need refueling
F15c have 1950 km of combat range. They can use Jordan and ksa airspace and release cruise missiles outside Iran border . They are useless against natanz and fordo . But there is a lot more target as our shorad is not up to what it must have been
Those f35 need refueling .
 
So it seems we are doing again "laat kooche khalvat" stuff? Persian speakers know what I'm talking about.

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Türkiye didn't give permission for the US to use its territory for the invasion of Iraq. What makes you think Ankara would greenlight an assault on Iran?
Come on . In previous forum I made a detailed post on how turkey initially refused permission but then in less than one week gave ghd permission
 
Cautionary tale, If the Iranians could track the F-35, they wouldn't have shot down a civilian airliner.

This is because the air defense crew of that Buk missile system knew they could not track the F-35. So the second they had contact on the radar, they opened fire. They didn't wait for friendly aircraft to intercept and identify the aircraft. They just opened fire as soon as possible.
First it was not but but tor m1
Second do you have Amy evidence that Iran even get a single but.
3rd the problem was Russian design that could not automatically detect north from south so the operator faced with something on radar in a direction that he didn't expect
 
Americans would not need land bases or route. I wouldn't mess around with one naval strike group let alone two. They've got like 100 F35s on a single carrier & could level a countries capital city within 2 or 3 hours let alone what kinda military who would actually resist it too..
F35 need refueling
 
It seems like this strike put Iran in a dilemma. Iran prefer fighting using proxy forces with IRGC providing leadership to those proxies. With direct strike on Iranian embassy, Israel is challenging Iran to fight directly.

Iran's delay in reaction or the lack of it means they are confused how to react. It seems like Iran is worried of direct fight with Israel. Perhaps Iran is weak internally than it portrays.


If Iran don't respond, Israeli attacks will continue to get more bolder and more direct.
 
Officially Israel doesn't have a large arsenal of long-range cruise missiles, but we can assume that they secretly have it.

Probably Israel will launch a salvo of cruise missiles against targets in Iran in retaliation to Iran's strike. And then there will be a war that can last for several weeks at best.
 
Officially Israel doesn't have a large arsenal of long-range cruise missiles, but we can assume that they secretly have it.

Probably Israel will launch a salvo of cruise missiles against targets in Iran in retaliation to Iran's strike. And then there will be a war that can last for several weeks at best.


If US does not get involved Iran will absolutely come out better off.

A lot of people would have said a "tit for tit" by taking out a Zionist "embassy" in neighbouring country but Iran may not want to do this for multiple reasons.

The other option is a joint strike by Hezbollah to saturate the Zionist air defences and then pinpoint ballistic missile strike on a major military or government target from Iran, being careful to minimise the risk of civilian settler casulaties.

A powerful combined blow between Hezbollah and Iran may be just enough to restore deterrence if Iran does not want more murders of its highest military officials.

Most important thing is to keep the US out and if Iran can achieve that then it would have dealt a severe blow to the entity's arrogance. It really does not have any good options to retaliate against Iran due to vast distances and lack of offensive missiles. It's airforce is practically useless against Iran due to geography.

PS - Iran has much better ability to shoot down cruise missiles than ballistic ones and anyway the settler entity may not have cruise missiles with enough range to target much if any of Iran.
 
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