Iran launches Operation True Promise - massive missile/drone strikes across Israel, Israel allegedly responds with quadcopters

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How many Israelis did you kill? What military equipment and defence capability did you destroy? There's nothing to show after launching over 300 missiles, or your flying lawnmowers. What BDA have you got to show for your assault? All valid questions, but nothing to show for it.
Hamas killed 1,400 Israeli's in one day. So do you support Israeli's being killed and being held accountable for their crimes or if they get killed you'll come back saying Iran is terrorist and committed horrendous crimes against the peaceful Israeli's?
 
I will leave you guys to your hubris. As long as no one violates the laws of nature, my participation in this discussion will be limited because eventually, a member of the admin staff will get ticked off enough and ban me from the forum.
Not really my hubris as I have no dog in this fight.
 
This Zionist Fcuker is hell bent on starting a world war, taking down the world to fulfil their psychopathic Talmudic scriptures....

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Let him try. He is bluff.
 
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Who are you going to believe? Corax or your lying eyes?
 
Today was a bad day for Iran-haters & Israeli fan boys.

The only thing that matters is mission objectives. Interception rate is NEVER a criteria for mission success. Infact intercepting low cost drones with expensive missiles is double failure of israelis today. Its not sustainable in any logistical sense. Israelis were completely confused today.

Iran's Objectives:
First we need to determine, was Iran looking to escalate it way too much Or was Iran trying to give a response that do not warrants a counter-response. I think we can agree that Iran didn't wanted to escalate. Iran wanted to attack Israel, but not a full scale war, it wanted to hit a military target but nothing out of proportionate. Out of 100s projectiles it fired, Iran never intended all those to impact and cause wide scale destruction. Iran sent these 100s intentionally as decoys to confuse Israeli AD to make way for select few BMs. This is as simple as anything. Israeli AD with most expensive missiles foolishly engaged all those cheap drones. In a way its another success of Iran to deplete Israeli stocks of expensive missiles with its cheap drones.

Israel's objectives:
Israel's first objective was to keep the status-quo and make Iran back off. They did full psychological warfare for weeks saying that Israel will instantly respond to Iran with full scale and what not. Israel wanted that deterrence to maintain. This first objective failed.
Israel's second objective was under worst case scenario, if Iran did attacks and violates Israel's airspace then to repel each and everything. It had weeks of preparation, it has US / UK allies with it fully committed. The last thing they wanted was to let their military base hit by Iranian missiles. This objective also failed for Israel.

What happened:
Now Iran's challenge was to pass through that thick layer of AD, which has GPS Jamming, EW and every sort of missiles. and guess what Iran succeed. Iran sent 100s of slow moving projectiles as decoys that were intended to confuse Israeli AD, while atleast 8 fast moving BMs did hit the military base. Objective complete. Mission success. Its not about firing 100s or 1000s or intercepting 1000s, its about the mission criteria.

Iran's timing of missiles was nothing short of perfect, it's missiles precision was nothing short of perfect. We need to understand, we are talking about ranges in excess of 1000 Kms. Iran sent the waves with exact timings, the drones sent hours before the CMs & BMs but all made entry into Israel at exact same moment. Also it shows that Iran was well aware of Israeli AD, that's the only reason they sent so many drones as decoys. Iran sent multi-layered attack against Israel's multi-layered defense.

Lastly. people who are dumb enough to make a foolish point of 'interception rate' needs to ask themselves that what really were they expecting?? Were they expecting that Iran fired those 300+ projectiles all to hit Israel and cause mass level destruction across Israel? I mean if yes, then you need to understand basics of modern warfare. It was never the goal of Iran at first place. Iran wanted most of these low cost drones to be intercepted with expensive israeli AD, so missiles with intended targets can pass through. These low cost drones were meant to be intercepted and confuse Israeli AD along with US / UK / Jordanians. It was Iran against all and it successfully achieved its goals. Israel is humiliated and it can't do much now. This is the reality of today.

I think below video summarizes the total success of brilliant Iranian strike, how most expensive israeli missiles are engaging cheap decoys and while the missiles with real target pass through all the defensive layers. A 10/10 perfect attack.

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Note, this is a small demo that Iran has presented. It has proved that Israel is well in range of its missiles, it has proved that Israel can be paralyzed & crushed if attacked with full force, it has proved it's missiles are accurate despite all those GPS / EW jamings. Last century's world order is crumbing & crushing with every year passing.

Whoever is from islamic world but still having cramps, well your country would never in its entire life will stand up to Israel / US / UK. Forget directly firing missiles to their territory ever. Know your place, before making joke of others.

fantastic assessment
 
Hamas killed 1,400 Israeli's in one day. So do you support Israeli's being killed and being held accountable for their crimes or if they get killed you'll come back saying Iran is terrorist and committed horrendous crimes against the peaceful Israeli's?

I couldn't care less about Israelis, Palestinians, or iranians. If they all want to kill each other, so be it. The point is the Iranian attack failed to inflict any real damage to the Israelis, and now gives netanyahu the excuse he's been looking for.
 
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I seriously think Netanyahu is a mad man. He should have deescalated, but now he's gonna double down on Israel's strategic mistake. This may hurt Iran, but the Iranians are gonna make sure its painful for the Israelis.
 
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“A spectacular defeat”


Dear @F-22Raptor , I want to know your position on Israel's attack on Iranian embassy. What do you have to say about that and does it justify the response Iran had ?



BTW context matters. Tell me what you did when your embassy was bombed. And why shouldn't Iran do the same.

 
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Will we see the effectiveness of Iran's air defense now?

What Iran did yesterday was already unprecedented. Attacking Israel on its own soil was supposedly unfathomable. Israel has been left fuming and humiliated. Israel had to rely on US, British, French and Jordanian help to intercept. The myth that Israel is invincible has been shattered. Remember that yesterday was a moderately light display of drone and missile barrage. We didn't see consecutive salvos.

The ball is now in Israel’s court. If Israel decides to attack Iran, we will see a more aggressive counter attack from Iran. Yesterday was a trailer. Iran has learnt a lot about the manner in which its projectiles got intercepted. Iran is obviously going to make various adjustments.
 
I couldn't care less about Israelis, Palestinians, or iranians. If they all want to kill each other, so be it. The point is the Iranian attack failed to inflict any real damage to the Israelis, and now gives netanyahu the excuse he's been looking for.
I don't think it failed. It looked like a warning and nothing more. Israeli defenses are seemingly severely depleted. Iran has shown it has more than enough munition to overwhelm Israeli defenses and positions.

Even with the US's help, Israel will be in major trouble if they push Iran further.

And that's not me being some sort of Iran fanboy, I think Iran needs to be careful because it might be biting off more than it can chew.
 
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“A spectacular defeat”

We both know this is propaganda, right? If Iran was serious about this, they wouldn't have released a statement that they consider the matter closed WHILE the drones and missiles were still on their way to Israel before any interception could even be made.
 
I seriously think Netanyahu is a mad man. He should have deescalated, but now he's gonna double down on Israel's strategic mistake. This may hurt Iran, but the Iranians are gonna make sure its painful for the Israelis.

I told you.

Bibi has zero incentive to deescalate. He is losing in Gaza (most Hamas miltants have transitioned to insurgency and have filtered back into areas Israel left), he has no support for Rafah, HZ is still doing attacks, etc. domestic support is gone due to his handling of 10/7 and lack of progress on hostages.

For last 20 years what made Bibi popular in Israeli politics is Israelis believed his strength has always been he is tough on Iran and only he can prevent Iran from attacking. Well that is now gone.

Rally Around the flag and extending the war is only way to keep his political future alive.
 
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