Unrest in AJK Update and Discussion

[Guru Dutt]

How many seat BJP contesting in IOK ?
They can't and you know exactly why

No one want to be a part of India always remember that no matter how deluded dayglo chuddie wearers become .

Kashmir: Why Modi's BJP is not fighting elections in the Himalayan region​

• By Auqib Javeed
• Srinagar, Kashmir

11 May 2024

IMAGE SOURCE,GETTY IMAGES
Image caption,Experts say the BJP is fearful of losing elections in Indian-administered Kashmir
More than four years after the governing Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) ended the special status of Indian-administered Kashmir, the party has decided not to contest this year's general election there.
Political analysts and opposition leaders say the decision hints at anger in the region over the move - and the party's acknowledgement of it.
Relations between Kashmir and Delhi have been tense for decades. An insurgency against Indian rule and military action against it have claimed thousands of lives in the Himalayan region over the past three decades.
The situation worsened in 2019, when Prime Minister Narendra Modi's government revoked nearly all of Article 370 - a part of the Indian constitution which had given significant autonomy to the region - and divided it into two federally-administered territories of Ladakh, and Jammu and Kashmir.
The government also imposed a strict communication blockade and jailed hundreds of political leaders, including three former chief ministers, for months.

PM MODI knows the polictics of J&K more than you and i can ever imagine or talk on open forums for that matter

as they say kheer hamesha thandee kerkke khanee chiyye

and why BJP is not fighting any seats from Kashmir must be a party decission... maybe BJP is not ready to play its cards but one things for sure i was there a few weeks back and an avrage kashmiri muslim was very happy specially how things have got better post dissalution of Article 370 & 35A which systematically killed the drug trade and hegemony of Addullha and mufti family in Kashmeer

 

[Waz]

How many seat BJP contesting in IOK ?
They can't and you know exactly why

No one want to be a part of India always remember that no matter how deluded dayglo chuddie wearers become .

Kashmir: Why Modi's BJP is not fighting elections in the Himalayan region​

• By Auqib Javeed
• Srinagar, Kashmir

11 May 2024

IMAGE SOURCE,GETTY IMAGES
Image caption,Experts say the BJP is fearful of losing elections in Indian-administered Kashmir
More than four years after the governing Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) ended the special status of Indian-administered Kashmir, the party has decided not to contest this year's general election there.
Political analysts and opposition leaders say the decision hints at anger in the region over the move - and the party's acknowledgement of it.
Relations between Kashmir and Delhi have been tense for decades. An insurgency against Indian rule and military action against it have claimed thousands of lives in the Himalayan region over the past three decades.
The situation worsened in 2019, when Prime Minister Narendra Modi's government revoked nearly all of Article 370 - a part of the Indian constitution which had given significant autonomy to the region - and divided it into two federally-administered territories of Ladakh, and Jammu and Kashmir.
The government also imposed a strict communication blockade and jailed hundreds of political leaders, including three former chief ministers, for months.

They're hated with a passion and use brute force to keep peoples heads down. No rights, internet shutdowns, ruled from New Delhi direct. How nice.

 

[Guru Dutt]

They're hated with a passion and use brute force to keep peoples heads down. No rights, internet shutdowns, ruled from New Delhi direct. How nice.

well there is no so called Internet outage in any part of indian J&K or Ladhakh dont belive me go on LOC and try for yourself pakistani internet & cellphone wont work but indian connection will for sure i challenge you on this ... cheers mate

already there is train service and i went there on train all the way up till Badgam in kashmir after Katra/Vaishno Devi from delhi

Govt of india is now directly involved as now citizenz of India from J&K/Ladhakh to kanya kumari all share and enjoy same rights and equal treatment under law under of indian constitution without any discrimination of race/language/region or religion

Fundamental Rights, Directive Principles and Fundamental Duties of India - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Dalit]

It looks like they are panicking and giving into the demands:

PM Shehbaz approves immediate provision of Rs23bn to AJK

Move comes after special meeting held to discuss ongoing tense situation over protesters' demands.

www.dawn.com

 

[Waz]

well there is no so called Internet outage in any part of indian J&K or Ladhakh dont belive me go on LOC and try for yourself pakistani internet & cellphone wont work but indian connection will for sure i challenge you on this ... cheers mate

already there is train service and i went there on train all the way up till Badgam in kashmir after Katra/Vaishno Devi from delhi

Govt of india is now directly involved as now citizenz of India from J&K/Ladhakh to kanya kumari all share and enjoy same rights and equal treatment under law under of indian constitution without any discrimination of race/language/region or religion

Fundamental Rights, Directive Principles and Fundamental Duties of India - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Maybe not now but in the past many times. It was part of their measures and has been evidenced plenty of times.
The trains are for tourists and of course troops.
The government of India views Kashmiris differently and gives special status to other states to run themselves. So there is no equal treatment here.
But anyway I don't want to go off-topic, at least they're having elections now. Let's see.

 

[Waz]

It looks like they are panicking and giving into the demands:

PM Shehbaz approves immediate provision of Rs23bn to AJK

Move comes after special meeting held to discuss ongoing tense situation over protesters' demands.

www.dawn.com

Strategic region bro of very high importance. The army also gave them a shout down.
Imagine sending in hundreds of your henchmen into a region known for warlike people, and expect things to be ok. This region is also right on the most sensitive part of Pakistan where 100,000 Pakistani troops are.

 

[newb3e]

Pakistanis in every town qnd city should take inspiration from AJK protests and come on streets and take what they own from the mouaziz mafia!

 

[Waz]

People still remain very patritoic. Our forefathers fought to free the region and join the fatherland. That will never change.
We don't however accept rule from feudal filth. Or outsiders who want to use muscle on us.

Hai mere mulk hai
Hai mere army hai
Hai mere Pakistan hai

Virtually all saying that.
I'll be honest but after the whole thing with demands is settled, the demand Imran is released should be put forward to them. He's the most popular leader among our people. Now is the time for momentum.

 

[arjunk]

Virtually all saying that.
I'll be honest but after the whole thing with demands is settled, the demand Imran is released should be put forward to them. He's the most popular leader among our people. Now is the time for momentum.

What if it sets the precedent for Karachi Muhajirs to demand Altaf Hussein's return, for example?

 

[Guru Dutt]

Hai mere mulk hai
Hai mere army hai
Hai mere Pakistan hai

Virtually all saying that.
I'll be honest but after the whole thing with demands is settled, the demand Imran is released should be put forward to them. He's the most popular leader among our people. Now is the time for momentum.

Be it Bhuttos/PPP or Shriefs/PMLNor now Imran/PTIall three or for that mater even AH of MQM was a product of your army's political wing

but all four went against there masters wishes as they demanded more than the pre adjusted/promised share of resources hence all were put in there places or used against each other time to time and yet again

but this time there the problem is the money source dried up @ USA went out of AFPAK region hence no more WAR REMMITTENCES or COILATION SUPPORT FUNDS or for that matter UNCONDITIONAL IMF/WORLD BANK WAIVERS ....

aur asli kirpa yaheen atki hui hai....kirpa @US money flow fir shuru to firse establishment aur beurocrats/judges and politicians ki party chaloo ... AM I WRONG SIR ....?????

 

[Dalit]

Strategic region bro of very high importance. The army also gave them a shout down.
Imagine sending in hundreds of your henchmen into a region known for warlike people, and expect things to be ok. This region is also right on the most sensitive part of Pakistan where 100,000 Pakistani troops are.

These crazy noonies throught that they would get their way by beating up people on streets of AJK. Too bad the Punjab police isn't there to assist as it was against Imran Khan and PTI.

Yet another example of how incredibly detached these people are from reality.

 

[onlinpunit]

They're hated with a passion and use brute force to keep peoples heads down. No rights, internet shutdowns, ruled from New Delhi direct. How nice.

Situation is quite opposite now.
Record no of tourist.
New investment and development
Improvement in law and order.
Stone pelting reduce to almost zero.

 

[PakAl]

Wrong Sirji

Only Law In Pakistan is what the Beurocrats of your Civil , Militarry or Jeudicial system want it to be the real power is with this feudal elite which has its hydra type tantecells in almost every power equation in Pakistan...politicians are just for a moscot or for that matter so called law and order

Pakistan was actually made by the British and for the British to safegaurd there interests in this so called AF-PAK region and the greater Indian sub continent after they left it or gave it "Freedom"
1. They wanted some kind of Proxy Militarry presence in the area to control USSR

2. British undivided India was biggest trading partner of UK before freedom and they could not loose all control ver it and Congress was in no mood to be remote controlled by London hence they prepped up Muslim Leuge and brought back Jnnah in early 1940s for the creation of Pakistan who had left for life to London in Mid 1930s and gave this task to Muslim Ullema and students of Muslim Universities like alighar and Bhopal and Hydrabad Deccan and Bengal

3. tell me one white Paper or plan that Muslim leuge had about new nation post independence or one Book or thoughts in any news paper article of any of the Muslim leuge founding members had ever written about the new laws and constitution they wanted for the new nation ...????

4. Even Jinnah had agreed for sepperatte electortate inside Indian union post independence as directed by the UK PM Attley but niether muslim Feudals nor the massess who supported jinnah agreed to it who were promissed with Hindu lands and money/MAL E GHANIMAT in new Pakistan after ethnic cleansing of hindus in whats pakistan and bangladesh now

SO FORGET SIR THAT THERE WILL BE ANY LAW IN PAKISTAN FOR BETTER MENT OF COMMON MAN IN PAKISTAN AS PAKISTAN WAS NEVER MADE FOR WELFARE OF COMMON MAN IT WAS MADE BY THE ELITE AND FOR THE ELITE FOR PROTECTING AND SERVING THE CAUSE OF GORRA SAHEBS OF uk AND LATER USA/EUROPE....... LOOK AROUND YOUR NATION AND ITS HISTORY AND TELL ME IF I AM WRONG ....SIR!!!!!!

Immature propaganda from online Indians, doesnt even make sense, Pakistan has 250m population, its normal for people to protest for cheaper electricity or against inflation. This doesn't mean they're against Pakistan.

In all nations the real power belongs to the military establishment or the elite. Yes we want changes and slowly we will implement them, nothing for Indians to worry about.

India was also established by the British, they left the region, noone forced them out, the British sponsored Hindu nationalist like RSS, the haters of Muslims, this is what lead to the separation otherwise we would have witnessed a civil war, the Hindu nationalist wanted to rule the Muslims, harm them, destroy their history, just like they're doing it now in India.

There was no India, we had over 500 princely states, all with their own culture, rules and leadership.

 

[Guru Dutt]

Immature propaganda from online Indians, doesnt even make sense, Pakistan has 250m population, its normal for people to protest for cheaper electricity or against inflation. This doesn't mean they're against Pakistan.

In all nations the real power belongs to the military establishment or the elite. Yes we want changes and slowly we will implement them, nothing for Indians to worry about.

India was also established by the British, they left the region, noone forced them out, the British sponsored Hindu nationalist like RSS, the haters of Muslims, this is what lead to the separation otherwise we would have witnessed a civil war, the Hindu nationalist wanted to rule the Muslims, harm them, destroy their history, just like they're doing it now in India.

There was no India, we had over 500 princely states, all with their own culture, rules and leadership.

Forget everything why did greeces dint went to somalia or china but Magesthenese wrote a book called INDICA on India ever wonderred why

or for that matter Chritopher colombus went to find America but found some other people and later they were called "Red Pakistanies" even today ... right !!!!! ...

who did Vasco De gama went out to discover after Portugese stole maps of ancient world from Turkish librarry ...?????

Munna India was always there and we Sanatanies before every Puja/anushthaan declare owr georaphical location as which locality and then country is said as BHARAT KHANDDE/JAMBOO DVIPPE meaning Bharat part of asian continent ...like africa was called Shankya dwippa in ancient snatani text



So Santan Dharm was there before even the jews or Gautam Bhudda came and we are still there just cause your MUTALIYA E PAKISTAN has some other programmes feeded into your last 3-4 genrations dose not changes facts or history

and no we hindus did not wanted seppratte state or wanted to subdue muslims but it was always other way round as there is no concept of DHIMMI/JAZIYYA or KAFFIR in Sanatan/hindu Dharm you could even be an athiest and then even a snatani hindu ... hindu dharm is a way of life a civilizationlan concept not a religious political idiology whose only goal is GALBBA over others/non bilivers ... so get your facts corrected

and as for so called Princley 500+ states only 60+ were so called Hindu riyasats rest all were muslim feudal fiefdoms or ruled by Muslim nawabs and most of them are decendents of those who sold the secrets of freedom fighters to british during 1857 and almost all were Muslim Leuge members thats why none went to jail in british india ... get your facts right

 

[Sainthood 2.0]

Why? That's dirt cheap energy
Why should AJK be given dirt cheap energy while industries in Karachi, Faisalabad are not? Whose taxes paid for the dam especially karachis and is still paying for the dam
why not Sindh whose coal we are all benefiting from? why not communities around nuclear power plants? why not urban middle class paying up for all those who are not paying thier fair share of bills? why not the salaried classes whose money goes into buying of imported oil and gas for energy?

Royalties is fair but the production cost, free electricity would set a bad precedent


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AJK is amongst the most economically well to do parts of Pakistan because of diaspora

But such ludicrous demands would make you think it's amongst the most economically backwards regions

Why should everyone else's tax pkr pay for all this especially when we're going through financial issues?