Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[hussain0216]

Now KSA is about to make a deal with the US and give them 10s of billions of US dollars for nuclear power stations and F-35s.

They can get better and cheaper from Russia/China but they need that all important “security guarantee” for their ruling regime.

Talk about giving the completely wrong signal to the county that funded and armed the genocidal entity.

Israel cannot function without the U.S

The U.S has funded Israels war on Gaza,
It has supplied Israel with the necessary weaponry and diplomatic cover

The U.S IS TO BLAME, fair enough you can make the argument the Zionists control the U.S politics and the average American citizen has little say but for the love of God you should have some shame and declare what the U.S is doing is intolerable and will have consequences

Across the world multiple countries are waking up and forging their own path, building weapons and alliances

What are the Arabs doing, making deals with the U.S and Jews to remain slaves and keep their populations under control

To say pathetic is a insult to the word pathetic

 

[hussain0216]

The Arab leaders are scum and they are compromised and to keep themselves in power they bow to the U.S and west at the cost of their own people, culture, faith and history

 

[Ghostkiller]

@UKBengali : As I said, France is the potential European Super Power and it will be France that will lead the European breakout from the American Neo Cons' chokehold. This video is from the official UN channel. While the French can't do a lot, they are aware that they--and Europe--need to break away from the Neo Cons. And they will break away from the so-called 'Transatlantic Alliance' when the time comes. And I think this conflict is giving several European countries the 'space' to speak up. However non-enforceable the ICJ rulings are they DO provide a legal pretext and a 'cover' for nations to choose their policies which they have been dying to choose.

PS. I still remember around the invasion of Iraq in 2003, the French were deadset against the war and a French diplomat was caught in a social gathering in America saying 'That $hitty little Middle Eastern country' to describe Israel. The French and the world knew who was instigating the war using its puppets in America!!

Because they were following the foreign policy of Charles De Gaulle, he even has his political stance which is the Gaullisme. During and after the 6 days war, he embargoed on Israel and said that Israel started the war unlike the US who are are saying that the Arabs started it. Same thing with Chirac, he was a Gaullist and knew how to balance between Israel and Arabs

 

[UKBengali]

The Arab leaders are scum and they are compromised and to keep themselves in power they bow to the U.S and west at the cost of their own people, culture, faith and history

What do you expect from the creations of the Zio-West.

Their very survival depends on the patronage of their masters.

The only Arab ruler who genuinely tried to help the Palestinians was King Faisal and he was probably assassinated for it.

 

[Ghostkiller]

French parliamentarian raising the flag of Palestine, he said, “We will not be silent. We are partners in genocide. Weapons to Israel must be banned and Palestine must be recognized immediately.”

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He is from a leftist party called La France Insoumise and he got suspended for 14 days. There is also a French with Palestinian origin the National Assembly called Rima Hassan

 

[PakAl]

Yes and not just Gaza,the West Bank too. For at least 25-30 years. Especially Hebron has been transformed into a ghetto for the Palestinians. Of course,that doesn't mean what Hamas did and in that specific way,should not be condemned. It also doesn't give the right to the Israeli government to annihilate the entire Gaza Strip in 6 months of bombings and starvation.

It's a cycle that has been going on for decades. One side occupies,the other retaliates,the first side tightens control,the other one reacts aggressively,the first one conducts reprisals on an even bigger scale etc.

When you create ghettos, harass and kill innocents, commit genocide, murder of childrens, shoot pregnant women, you will face resistance and Palestinians are doing just that, it maybe right or wrong but you will find some kind of aggressive resistance. In Palestine PLO was a secular nationalist movement who fought Israel for decades and they have now become peaceful but what did they get? West Bank is unofficial Israel, surrounded by Israeli army, checkpoints and settlements, they have annexed it.

The Israelis don't see Hamas or even Hizbollah as any threat, they are happy these people are armed so they can force them to fire rockets and then conquer their territory, and that is what is happening in Gaza, Israel aims to make it another West Bank, Israel will surround it with checkpoints, build settlements.

 

[maverick]

They know very well the plans of Israel but make silly statements to look innocent. Are the Palestinians not Arabs? Is Palestine not Arab land? The deal has already been done, people can continue to ask for proof but the reality is in front of our eyes, the safety of their regimes for Israel safety and security but soon their time will come too, the zionist have expansion plan, they will soon turn their eyes towards Lebanon and Jordan, with Syria they already have Golan Heights under their control and have settlements inside it.

There is nothing left for Palestinians. 2 nation solution is a deflection. Only one state solution is possible with Palestinians living as equal citizens within Israel. Which we all know they will never be considered equal citizens.

 

[maverick]

3 IDF terrorists killed in Rafah via explosion of booby trapped building

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1. SSgt. Amir Galilov, 20 yrs
2. SSgt. Ori Bar Or, 21 yrs
3. SSgt. Ido Abel, 21 yrs

291 IDF terrorists admitted killed in the Zionist invasion of Gaza.

Thats a very miniscule number, unless Palestinians are not able to inflict a unit level of liquidation per month, this war will never stop..

 

[Musings]

They are butchers who don't care about their own civilians. If you can't see that,it's a pity. They run Gaza like a mafia. They brutally fought against Fatah in 2008 and they betrayed some of their supporters like Syria and Iran back in 2011-2012 when the war in Syria started. Just because the IDF has been exterminating the Palestinians in Gaza,doesn't mean Hamas is a benevolent or heroic "freedom fighter" organization.

You think this nightmare started on the 7th October? You really need to educate yourself.
The Israeli have been killing imprisoning and ethnic cleansing for the last 70 years. The only reason Hamas exists is because of the Israeli occupiers. Dont you get it? Wherever there is an occupier - you will get a resistance force - like France had in 1942 against the Nazis.
Netanyahu was caught 8 years ago suggesting that they shouldnt stop the funding of Hamas - as their ideology matched what the Zionists wanted to achieve.
You use words such as exterminating and that shows us your intent on this forum. Words like this are used when describing removal of pests or rodents. Do it again and il ban you.

 

[mulj]

But it's true. They run Gaza like a mafia-State. They are an extremist group. They show little care about the civilians. There's nothing "benevolent" in Hamas. They are a branch of the Muslim Brotherhood,what they basically want is to rule Palestine themselves and impose an strict islamic State on it.

They don't have realistic goals,they only want all of Palestine or nothing.

Do you understand that Hebrew as a language and Jews as a people and ethnoreligious identity,have been around for thousands of years?

No Abu Bengali,I haven't been reading "biased Zionist sources",not everything in the world is Zionist. This specific subject was debated to pieces in the old forum.

I thought you were smarter,but in the end you just go down to refusing to see that Hamas too is at fault (I'm not saying the Palestinian people,I'm saying Hamas specifically)and instead you just go on with the usual "oh you don't fully support anything Palestinians do? Oh you must be a hypocrite who supports Jews!"


When I came to this thread yesterday,I came to post about the outrage and war crime in Rafah. And I saw that post about "white European settlers"...criticized it and got caught in this dumbfuck debate where a dozen people accuse me of nonsense like "not condemning Israel" or "not supporting Palestinians" etc.

I end up condemning Hamas again and again here for one fucking reason: Because most of you won't even accept the fact that Hamas is a dirty organisation. You treat it as if they are a benevolent,freedom-fighting group.

Thus,I end up trying to remind you that they are not,you guys start going on about it and we end up again and again talking about this,which has you all going around saying "oh he's Jew-lover...oh he support Israel...he a hypocrite,man,he lie!"


You know,Hamas has been around way before Erdogan started proclaiming his love and friendship for Palestinians and having fights with Netanyahu. I've been interested in the Palestinian issue since the late '90s and early 2000s.
Turkey has nothing to do with this. Absolutely nothing to do with this. You rush to accept every nonsense mulji says.


Nothing extreme in the MB? Why don't we ask our fellow Egyptian members here to reply to that? @Ghostkiller @GoMig-21 @Sami_1

"Western ones are much worse"?? What an easy vague conclusion you've come to! And yet,I don't see you migrating to a country with a big MB political presence,you are staying where there are "much worse western ones".


Yes and not just Gaza,the West Bank too. For at least 25-30 years. Especially Hebron has been transformed into a ghetto for the Palestinians. Of course,that doesn't mean what Hamas did and in that specific way,should not be condemned. It also doesn't give the right to the Israeli government to annihilate the entire Gaza Strip in 6 months of bombings and starvation.

It's a cycle that has been going on for decades. One side occupies,the other retaliates,the first side tightens control,the other one reacts aggressively,the first one conducts reprisals on an even bigger scale etc.

Ya TopGun...Hamas is not just a resistance movement. Not all resistance movements are just and truthful.

I think it was @UKBengali that I asked yesterday: "Where do you draw the line? Where is the line that seperates a freedom-fighter from a criminal?" For you TopGun,what is the limit? When does a "freedom-fighter" stops being a freedom-fighter and becomes a monster?

Do not hide behind other people, yes nothing extreme, your definition of extreme is irrelevant as you are zionists boot licker and supporter, what can be more extreme then that?

 

[PakAl]

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There is nothing left for Palestinians. 2 nation solution is a deflection. Only one state solution is possible with Palestinians living as equal citizens within Israel. Which we all know they will never be considered equal citizens.

It's all a deception, even if they give 10% of land to a Palestinian state, will they ever be allowed to be fully independent, economy independent, a powerful military. This will never happen so what Palestinian state? What 2 state solution?

 

[Meengla]

It's all a deception, even if they give 10% of land to a Palestinian state, will they ever be allowed to be fully independent, economy independent, a powerful military. This will never happen so what Palestinian state? What 2 state solution?

The Palestinian population is too large to meet the fate of the Native Americans in the Americas at the hands of European settlers. Either the Israelis learn to live peacefully in the region as equals--instead of some wannabe 'The Last Outpost of the West in the Middle East' or they GTFO to wherever they came from.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Do you understand that Hebrew as a language and Jews as a people and ethnoreligious identity,have been around for thousands of years?

I do actually. I know from where the Jews of Khyber came, who they actually were, and where did they go after they were told to leave. What's your point?

 

[Foinikas]

Do not hide behind other people, yes nothing extreme, your definition of extreme is irrelevant as you are zionists boot licker and supporter, what can be more extreme then that?

Where exactly am I "hiding" and behind what other people? Next time you call me a "zionists boot licker and supporter",I'll report you. Plain and simple. Enough with this stupidity.

You think this nightmare started on the 7th October? You really need to educate yourself.

Ah,you think you're the only one here who's read about the Palestinian issue? You think I don't know about the Palestinian-Israeli conflict just because I don't find the 7 October attack as particularly "heroic" or an act of "resistance"?

The Israeli have been killing imprisoning and ethnic cleansing for the last 70 years. The only reason Hamas exists is because of the Israeli occupiers. Dont you get it? Wherever there is an occupier - you will get a resistance force - like France had in 1942 against the Nazis.

Yes and that's why I ask again and again: Where do you draw the line. Also,there are resistance groups of various sorts in conflicts. It doesn't mean they are all good and heroic. It doesn't mean they are all an example. Take the communist guerillas in the Axis occupation of Greece for example: They were brutal to both Germans/Italians and the locals. Their attacks had little to no strategic significance in their vast majority and ended up in reprisals by the Germans,that had hundreds of people executed and villages burned down. Same as with other countries and their communist partisans or for example guerilla groups in Latin America.

Netanyahu was caught 8 years ago suggesting that they shouldnt stop the funding of Hamas - as their ideology matched what the Zionists wanted to achieve.

So basically,you reinforce the idea some members suggested in the old forum,that Hamas was indirectly "created" or "flourished" because of Israeli interests. No matter,it's well known that Netanyahu is a wild dog who has been advocating for extreme measures against the Palestinians. And I wouldn't be surprised if he knew about the attack and let it happen,just like many people believe. He showed from day one,that he doesn't care about the hostages either.

You use words such as exterminating and that shows us your intent on this forum. Words like this are used when describing removal of pests or rodents. Do it again and il ban you.

Musings,I think you are going on a rant here,taking everything wrong. What phrase would you think is better? "Ethnic cleansing?" or will it remind you of "germs"? Genocide? Or will it remind you of Jews in WWII? Butchering? Elimination? Mass bombings? What exactly? It's you who thought of "removal of pests or rodents",not me.

The Netanyahu government is focused of wiping out Palestinians from Gaza or forcing them out. Is this terminology acceptable?

 

[Musings]

Musings,I think you are going on a rant here,taking everything wrong. What phrase would you think is better? "Ethnic cleansing?" or will it remind you of "germs"? Genocide? Or will it remind you of Jews in WWII? Butchering? Elimination? Mass bombings? What exactly? It's you who thought of "removal of pests or rodents",not me.

The Netanyahu government is focused of wiping out Palestinians from Gaza or forcing them out. Is this terminology acceptable?

No rant. Just watched your selective criticism of one side - forgetting to even tarnish those that have specifically targeted children, women, refugee camps and hospitals. You seem to attempt to sit on the fence and be neutral. Unfortunately not clever enough and too transparent.
The Israeli are behaving like the lowest form of human and all the war crimes have been documented. The ICJ are objective and their assessment is war crimes and genocide has been committed and those responsible will be charged.............