Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

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Whatever you call them, they are still useless, inferior, kuffar wannabe white worshippers. That doesn't change anything.
I don't disagree.

What I was trying to say was these A'rabs are not same Arab as Ahle Al-bayt or Sahabs or their descendants.

They are Registaan ke Bandars.
 
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So the Gazans were not imprisoned and even denied the right to fish their own waters on the pain of instant death?

Imprisonment DOES NOT EQUAL autonomy.

Now do you have any rational arguments of your own or just repeating Zionist propaganda that tries to justify genocide all the time?
 
So the Gazans were not imprisoned and even denied the right to fish their own waters on the pain of instant death?

Imprisonment DOES NOT EQUAL autonomy.

Now do you have any rational arguments of your own or just repeating Zionist propaganda that tries to justify genocide all the time?

That was posted by an indian. Now do you understand why I said that they should all be permanently banned from the forum?
 
That was posted by an indian. Now do you understand why I said that they should all be permanently banned from the forum?



Posts like that should be construed as propaganda to justify genocide if the poster is explicitly agreeing with the tweet in it.

Mods need to be more firmer with the Hinduvta crowd if they break the more serious rules like justifying genocide in any way. They can come here and speak freely but not justify genocide in any way.
 
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The moment an Israeli Hermes 900 drone was shot down after being targeted by a surface-to-air missile. It is one of the most expensive and largest drones in the Israeli Air Force.

It fell in southern Lebanon.


But - F16s can come and go as they please - so whatever SAM system they are using - it is not that sophisticated ?
 
What children?????

The Palestinians are a occupied people, they have the right to fight their occupier and oppressor , it's a matter of freedom and independence

Literally no one asked the Jews to come to the middle east, the local Jews were a minority before you have a insidious invasion under the British of foreigners who happened to be Jewish and who created a ethnocentric apartheid state

Seeing how monstrous the Zionists are, for the sake of peace the Jews need to leave the middle east, they are absolutely hated in the region for what reason would this continuing this colonial apartheid outpost make any sense except to create so much hatred for the Jew that their future is imperiled
Israel children are occupier too in your insane world vision.

USA people are also occupier in Native American people land, go and fight them.

Lack of own opinion, and only repeating mainstream nonsenses.
 
Israel children are occupier too in your insane world vision.

USA people are also occupier in Native American people land, go and fight them.

Lack of own opinion, and only repeating mainstream nonsenses.



You keep making this same invalid comparison!

A native Red Indian can settle in any part of the USA that a white descendant of settlers can.

Can a native Palestinian settle in any part of Palestine that a Jew from anywhere in the world can?

Please stop using this analogy as it weakens your credibility.
 
You keep making this same invalid comparison!

A native Red Indian can settle in any part of the USA that a white descendant of settlers can.

Can a native Palestinian settle in any part of Palestine that a Jew from anywhere in the world can?

Please stop using this analogy as it weakens your credibility.
There are a lot of New York indians, they can't go to settle in Empire State building. And that land belongs to them.

Anyway, children are always civilian and innocent people, and only a insane brainwashed retarded like Hamas can consider them a valid target in a war.
 
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There are a lot of New York indians, they can't go to settle in Empire State building. And that land belongs to them.

Anyway, children are always civilian and innocent people, and only a insane brainwashed retarded like Hamas can consider them a valid target in a war.


Don't be completely obtuse.

We are talking about the same rights as Jews that can just turn up in Palestine and live anywhere that a private citizen can.

If you want a bit more respect around here then start talking logically and with ration.
 
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Nope, involving civilians as target like Hamas indiscriminate rocket launch to Israel cities and terrorist act inside Israeli city targeting civilians are the ones that makes Israel is also targetting Palestinians civilians

Hamas has been doing their stupid action for decades and understand what will be the consequence of such action but keep doing that due to their ego/emotion/abide with their leadership

We should abide and follow Allah, not emotion or other human


As per zionists, Palestinians or Muslims are Amalek or human animals- henseforth, they have moral rights to opresessed, humiliate, subjugated, enslaved and killed seeds of Amalek as they wish yet Hamas is the root casue of the genocide.
 
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The first was in pieces, the second was crushed by a bullet, and the third and fourth were a single bullet enough to impale both of them.

A sniper with one bullet hits two
An anti-bunker shell burns and maims a soldier

Jabalia before withdrawal

Al Qassam Brigades are consistently wearing down the Israeli army now. Israeli's hit a point in their war where they don't see why they're fighting, as Gaza has been utterly ravaged by Israel. Any deployment they still have in Gaza is just adding to their casualties.

Israel cannot occupy Gaza effectively like it did with the West Bank. And it certainly cannot build any 'settlements' in Gaza. Israeli's carpet bombed and destoryed everything in Gaza. And Gaza was left alone. Gaza is fighting for its existence and survival which is where the willpower of their people is coming from. Israel will not achieve in their attempt to wipe out Palestine from existence.
 
Israel PM rejects the ceasefire

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Very important. Israel continues to reject its own ceasefire proposals. And continues lying to mediators. As expected, Israel would reject any attempt at a ceasefire yet try to blame Palestinians.

Embarking on a vague genocidal mission such as 'destroying Hamas' simply means killing and expelling all Palestinians of Gaza. As we know what the Israeli Jewish radical terrorists mean when they say that. Imagine if Arabs embarked on 'destroying the IDF'. IDF makes up one million people in Israel. You'd have to kill 4 million in the process. 60% of Israeli population. It's genocidal and Nazi rhetoric of. Let's see in the future if it's acceptable by the hypocrites to destroy the IDF, then.
 
They are A'rab (Aarab) not Arab. There is a big difference @Falcon29 isn't it bro?
I don't support blanket statements. Gulf Arabs are by far and large decent people. But I'd say they're in their own circle. Region is too divided. Gulf Arabs seem to be concerned with economy and security first and foremost. Which is why they don't take the initiative in the region. I've good experiences with Kuwaitis, Qatar's and Omani's personally.

What I believe should happen is Egypt turns a blind eye to smuggling into Gaza and Gulf support Egypt economically and politically during such process. Now Gaza should not go through more. But Egypt should strengthen its positions and start to deploy political and military cards without going to a all out war. Egypt is the only nation near Palestine that can have a impact, with backing of other regional players, but not at expense of Egypt's security. If there are people that conspire against Egypt and wish harm for it, then I do not stand for that. If someone is saying that they want change and change happens but they express different desires, then that is disturbing and even wicked.

I don't believe in revolutionary change of region. But I believe there can be harmony and more effective policies drawn that benefit everyone. Stability of Egypt, Turkey, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Gulf, Iraq, Syria is better for the region long term. People need to live most people do not follow politics like we do on the forum. They seek to live and take care of their families and so forth. There has to be ways to draw up policies that hurt Israel in the long term. And gradually done.
 
It doesn't matter what I think.

The question is:
1) People who initated the conflict, what outcome did they think will come? Everyone knew that overwhelming response will come from Israel. Then why did they do it? Did they have a plan, did they work out what the implication was?

2) The response is on the lines that anyone would have expected. I'm still waiting for the explanation from Hamas leadeership on what the endgame for this strategy is


They are perfectly within their scope to initiate a conflict if there is an endgame. Surely there's no such thing here.

Israel's morality or palestinian righteoushness is not the factor here. The leaders (Hamas) initated a conflict with no endgame. To me this looks like a calculation of many Palestinians dying is not a big cost to the Hamas leadership.

The endgame is freedom and independence

I've said this before, they can either act like Hindus and be cowards and slaves for a thousand years or they can fight, suffer but further their goal towards independence and freedom

Palestinians have the long term demographic advantage, they are much younger than the Jews and the population of Jews and Arabs is now equal across Gaza, the west bank and Israel

The aim is to ensure the Jews get no peace and through their monstrous actions become a pariah ,the Palestinians will suffer but they are suffering anyway but they will continue to be younger and have more children then the Jews, whilst the Jews will
Bend rules
Use Zionists
Try to control the media and they will kill Palestinians

But In the end they will still face demographic defeat, and have sheer unadulterated hatred directed at them across the world with more questions about Zionist and Zionist politicians


Let me put it in a way you might understand
In the year 1200AD if Hindus had a shred of courage and resolve and let's say fought the Delhi sultanate or Muslim armies
You would have suffered
Maybe hundreds of thousands dead, maybe more
Suffering
Destruction
But maybe, just maybe you would have saved yourself from ,800 years of further humiliation and defeat

Now ask yourself would that suffering be worth it?



Keep the Jews under constant pressure, missiles from the north
Chaos in the west bank
War in Gaza
North and South Israel empty with hundreds of thousands of internal Israeli refugees
Others Jews leaving Israel
International pressure
Countries recognizing Palestine
International institutions going after Israel
Israel becomes a pariah

And that's just the start, Israel will be hounded everywhere now

Resistance is costly, but it has to be done, it's just unfortunate Palestinians have to suffer but it won't end well for the jews
 
Israel children are occupier too in your insane world vision.

USA people are also occupier in Native American people land, go and fight them.

Lack of own opinion, and only repeating mainstream nonsenses.
If the occupation can target the children of the people

Why can't the resistance not fight back against the occupation ?
 
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