Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

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That is the main Hamas commanders net of tunnels , in north Gaza , going up in one bang.

This is from two weeks ago.

Did you reckon we where just going to leave it standing ?


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This is what how Hanas used the money given to feed Palestinians ,

What sort of people dig this under civilian homes ?
 
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Social media revolution has made MSM insignificant among younger age groups. It also allowed us to watch and store all the photos, videos and clips from the mass atrocities which are being committed.

There are people online who are dedicated to store it on their large Storage disks and cloud services. If Israel think they can just get away with it, they are wrong. One way or another this will haunt them for a long time.
 
Unknowntruth said:
lol you didn’t even refute any of my statements. My reply is for you to reread my post because we all know what you said is bologna.

Here I will repost it because it answers everyone of your questions. Ignoring the facts on the ground doesn’t make Israel less of a terrorist apartheid state.

Let’s not kid ourselves here.

Israeli can help Gaza with desalination?
Funny because you have destroyed their desalination plants, power stations, etc. I don’t think Israel cares for that.

Gaza agree to peace?
Hamas was created because of the oppression and occupation of the Palestinian people. Don’t forget PLO signed Oslo accords gave up their weapons and what did that achieve? It only achieved more illegal settlements , a leadership who is toothless, more oppression, etc You even assassinated your own leader who was leading the 2 state efforts. Your very own Netanyahu took pride in saying that he was responsible for not creating a Palestinian state.

Support peace?
There will only be peace when Palestinian are giving their rights to live in their own land with equal rights as their Jewish neighbors. The issue is you want Palestine but you do not want the Palestinian people there.

You speak about Hamas but your very own leaders who are in power are calling for the forced expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza. You refer to them as human animals and many genocidal statements from Smotrich, Givr, etc These people who are in power and who have the capacity to do genocide against Palestinians which is already evident in Gaza.


You have effectively destroyed anything that makes Gaza habitable including their power stations, water plants, hospitals, schools, UN shelters, whole neighborhoods, etc. You have literally carpet bombed the entire Gaza. You told people to flee south and said there would be a safe corridor only to bomb that corridor with civilians fleeing. With your leaders calling for the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza and genocidal statements. I think you can see that it’s not just genocidal words from your leaders but also actions.
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I have been refuting you decisively, but you seems so denial by repeating the same statements that have been refuted.

Now see this Hamas charter 1988:

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Is creating Islamic state in Palestine in place of Israel, and the obliteration or dissolution of Israel what you mean as freedom from oppression & occupation and to live equally with Israel citizen?

Does this Hamas charter agree with your claim that they want peace with Israel?
Is the peace you mean is by destruction of Israel? if thats the case then it is hypocrisy to the core.


Unknowntruth said:
How do you expect Palestinians to react to occupation and oppression? Should they hand you flowers?
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But you expect Israel to keep giving flower when Palestinian is obsessed to attack Israel and keep attacking Israel with intifada.

The war was started in 1948 when Arab league attack Israel, and after that it was always arab/palestine side that always start the aggressions by attacking Israel first.

Your expectation that Israel government treat Palestinian citizen equally with Israel citizen is insane to the core. It is like I am Indonesian expecting Singapore government to treat me equally with Singapore citizen or a Indian citizen expect Pakistan government to treat him equally with Pakistan citizen.
 
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Hamas command in north Gaza destroyed, Israel says​

6th January 2024, 04:05 EST
Reuters People inspect the site of an Israeli strike on a house in Jabalia, in the northern Gaza Strip, on Wednesday
Reuters
Much of northern Gaza has been reduced to rubble
The Israeli army says it has "completed the dismantling" of Hamas's command structure in the northern Gaza Strip.

Army spokesman Daniel Hagari told reporters that Palestinian militants are now operating in the area only sporadically and "without commanders".

He said Israel had killed around 8,000 militants in north Gaza. The BBC cannot independently verify this number.

The Israel Defence Forces (IDF) are now focused on dismantling Hamas in south and central Gaza, he said.

Israel has killed more than 22,000 people since the war began, according to the Hamas-run health ministry. On Saturday it said it had recorded more than 120 deaths over the past 24 hours.

The territory has been devastated and most of the population of 2.3 million has been displaced.

Israel's offensive started after Hamas gunmen launched a surprise attack on southern Israel on 7 October, killing 1,200 people, most of them civilians, and taking about 240 people hostage.

More than 120 remain, following agreed releases.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu reiterated on Saturday that Israel would continue its campaign to "eliminate Hamas, return our hostages and ensure that Gaza will no longer be a threat to Israel".

"We have to put everything aside ... until the complete victory is achieved," Mr Netanyahu said in a statement.

Meanwhile, Hezbollah fired dozens of rockets at northern Israel on Saturday, in what it called a preliminary response to the killing of a top Hamas official in Beirut earlier this week.

Saleh al-Arouri was assassinated in a suspected Israeli attack in the Lebanese capital.

A statement by the Iranian-backed Lebanese movement says it hit an air traffic control base in Meron with 62 rockets. The Israeli military said it had identified about 40 launches from Lebanon, and that it had responded.

US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said on Saturday that he was focused on ensuring that the Gaza conflict does not spread and preventing "an endless cycle of violence".
www.bbc.com

Hamas command in north Gaza destroyed, Israel says

Three months into the Gaza war, the militants are "without commanders" in the area, the IDF say.
www.bbc.com
 
Antonius123 said:
I have been refuting you decisively, but you seems so denial by repeating the same statements that have been refuted.

Now see this Hamas charter 1988:

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Is creating Islamic state in Palestine in place of Israel, and the obliteration or dissolution of Israel what you mean as freedom from oppression & occupation and to live equally with Israel citizen?

Does this Hamas charter agree with your claim that they want peace with Israel?
Is the peace you mean is by destruction of Israel? if thats the case then it is hypocrisy to the core.




But you expect Israel to keep giving flower when Palestinian is obsessed to attack Israel and keep attacking Israel with intifada.

The war was started in 1948 when Arab league attack Israel, and after that it was always arab/palestine side that always start the aggressions by attacking Israel first.

Your expectation that Israel government treat Palestinian citizen equally with Israel citizen is insane to the core. It is like I am Indonesian expecting Singapore government to treat me equally with Singapore citizen or a Indian citizen expect Pakistan government to treat him equally with Pakistan citizen.
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lol you are a clown, didn’t know Wikipedia is now considered factual.

You expect the Palestinians to let invaders come in take half their land and be ok with it?

Would you like it if I took over your home, left the garage for you? Then if you resist I beat or kill you?

Considering you are an apartheid state on Palestinian land, I do not expect a fascist state to treat us equally. I expect to resist this state till I get my rights to my homeland.

Once again, Hamas is a resistance movement created because of your occupation. There would be no Hamas without occupation. Whether you want to admit it or not, you are A SQUATTER. Hamas is doing its job as a resistance movement.

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This is article 16 and 17 of Hamas charter. Once again, Hamas has every right to fight its occupiers. They have every right to resist the oppression and land theft of their homeland.

16. Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity.

17. Hamas rejects the persecution of any human being or the undermining of his or her rights on nationalist, religious or sectarian grounds. Hamas is of the view that the Jewish problem, anti-Semitism and the persecution of the Jews are phenomena fundamentally linked to European history and not to the history of the Arabs and the Muslims or to their heritage. The Zionist movement, which was able with the help of Western powers to occupy Palestine, is the most dangerous form of settlement occupation which has already disappeared from much of the world and must disappear from Palestine.

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Article 20 of Hamas charter
20. Hamas believes that no part of the land of Palestine shall be compromised or conceded, irrespective of the causes, the circumstances and the pressures and no matter how long the occupation lasts. Hamas rejects any alternative to the full and complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea. However, without compromising its rejection of the Zionist entity and without relinquishing any Palestinian rights, Hamas considers the establishment of a fully sovereign and independent Palestinian state, with Jerusalem as its capital along the lines of the 4th of June 1967, with the return of the refugees and the displaced to their homes from which they were expelled, to be a formula of national consensus.

 
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Aesculapian said:
This, maybe?

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Homestead AFB after Hurricane Andrew serverly damaged the base on 24 August 1992. The damage to the base was extensive and the USAF reassigned the 31st Fighter wing, the base being placed in repair status for the next two years before it was placed back on operational status. Closest aircraft is 307th Fighter Squadron F-16C #89-2146 and the F-16C in the background is 88-0465 which was repaired and returned to flying status. 89-2146 was repaired afterwards but not to flying status, becoming a GF-16C ground trainer at Sheppard AFB, Texas (USA).
 
lightning f57 said:
You are right, then the houthis come to my mind.
As a minimum to put pressure muslim states could have recalled ambassadors, stopped over land flights, frozen trade relationships, but there are reports the GCC countries are providing a land route for trade into Israel. Why did it take South Africa to lodge a genocide case to the International criminal court and muslim countries were sat watching.
This really breaks a person when they see how useless muslim leadership is, then one must remember if the Palestinians who are suffering are not giving up then us with what little we can do can not either.
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Since the latest Gaza conflict started, on the street/ideological level, there is much more unity in the global Muslim population than any other religious/ethnic counterpart worldwide!! Absolutely, as far as I can see when you compare with other religious/ethnic groups in the world.

The difference is that America is the Caliph of the Western World while the Muslim world lacks that. But if the Muslim world is this pathetic, then the rest of the world is even more pathetic--but that's for another topic.

If either MBS or Erdogan don't move forward to help the Palestinians in concrete ways, then they will have missed the chance to be the leaders of a 1.5 billion group of people in addition to the billions of non-Muslims globally who are looking this conflict and wondering where is the Muslim world. Erdogan and MBS don't know that the iron is hot, ready to be struck!!!
 
Unknowntruth said:
lol you are a clown, didn’t know Wikipedia is now considered factual.

You expect the Palestinians to let invaders come in take half their land and be ok with it?

Would you like it if I took over your home, left the garage for you? Then if you resist I beat or kill you?

Considering you are an apartheid state on Palestinian land, I do not expect a fascist state to treat us equally. I expect to resist this state till I get my rights to my homeland.

Once again, Hamas is a resistance movement created because of your occupation. There would be no Hamas without occupation. Whether you want to admit it or not, you are A SQUATTER. Hamas is doing its job as a resistance movement.

Edit:

This is article 16 and 17 of Hamas charter. Once again, Hamas has every right to fight its occupiers. They have every right to resist the oppression and land theft of their homeland.

16. Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity.

17. Hamas rejects the persecution of any human being or the undermining of his or her rights on nationalist, religious or sectarian grounds. Hamas is of the view that the Jewish problem, anti-Semitism and the persecution of the Jews are phenomena fundamentally linked to European history and not to the history of the Arabs and the Muslims or to their heritage. The Zionist movement, which was able with the help of Western powers to occupy Palestine, is the most dangerous form of settlement occupation which has already disappeared from much of the world and must disappear from Palestine.

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Article 20 of Hamas charter
20. Hamas believes that no part of the land of Palestine shall be compromised or conceded, irrespective of the causes, the circumstances and the pressures and no matter how long the occupation lasts. Hamas rejects any alternative to the full and complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea. However, without compromising its rejection of the Zionist entity and without relinquishing any Palestinian rights, Hamas considers the establishment of a fully sovereign and independent Palestinian state, with Jerusalem as its capital along the lines of the 4th of June 1967, with the return of the refugees and the displaced to their homes from which they were expelled, to be a formula of national consensus.
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Palestine can live with their own delusion that Israel territory belongs to them, but they have lost with this claim diplomatically and militarily, and furthermore they rejected the UN partition plan as the only international law admitting their right for the 45% of the land then has chosen war and contest of power to determine who is right/wrong, alas they were lost.

Same like Palestine, Israel also has right to claim that 100% Palestine belong to them, and they are the winner, the winner takes it all.

Gaza and West Bank (Area A & B) is NOT the territory that Palestine took from Israel, but Israel GIFT as compensation for the peace in Oslo Accord, actually Israel could keep those area if they wanted but they didn't, meaning that Israel has done their virtue, but Palestine is not thankful and still obsessed to their original claim 100% territory although they have lost and agreed to have peace with Israel and get what Israel could retain (gaza & wb a&b) as compensation.

So MORALLY it is Israel that should suppress terrorist attack from Palestine rather than the other way round. But if Palestine still not satisfied, obsessed with 100% territory and want to continue with the contest of power go ahead, lets see whether they could take over Israel territory or the other way round Israel took back Gaza and whole West Bank and will never allow Palestine state to exist anymore.

If you dont believe wikipedia, you can check on the other source:

Ideology of Supremacist of Hamas.

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Actually this supremacist ideology is enough for Israel to justify their war to extermite Hamas.
 
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Antonius123 said:
Palestine can live with their own delusion that Israel territory belongs to them, but they have lost with this claim diplomatically and militarily, and furthermore they rejected the UN partition plan as the only international law admitting their right for the 45% of the land then has chosen war and power to determine who is right/wrong, alas they were lost.

Same like Palestine, Israel also has right to claim that 100% Palestine belong to them, and they are the winner, the winner takes it all.

Gaza and West Bank (Area A & B) is not territory that Palestine took from Israel, but Israel gift as compensation for the peace in Oslo Accord, actually Israel could keep those area if they wanted but they didn't, meaning that Israel has done their virtue, but Palestine is not thankful and still obsessed to their original claim 100% territory although they have lost and agreed to have peace with Israel.

So morally it is Israel that should suppress terror attack from Palestine rather than the other way round. But if Palestine want to continue with the contest of power go ahead, lets see whether they could take over Israel territory or the other way round Israel took back Gaza and whole West Bank.

If you dont believe wikipedia, you can check on the other source:

Ideology of Supremacist of Hamas.

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Actually this supremacist ideology is enough for Israel to justify their war to extermite Hamas.
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Thank you for putting out your clear intentions for everyone to read. I gave you the charters for you to read word for word. Everything you write is a joke, you cant even refute or answer me. You are just child’s play, you need to up your game. You Zionist genocidal maniacs have really fallen off your propaganda. Too bad, I wish I could see you guys squirm like the dogs you are as your propaganda is constantly exposed. Waging a war against anyone who criticizes Israel and you still cannot suppress the truth. What a joke you guys have become, I almost feel bad for you (not).

Nothing wrong with calling for the destruction of a state that occupies and ethnic cleanses another people. Yes, Israel at this current time should not exist as a racist state that it is. This does not mean the killing of Jews or ethnic cleansing of them. Ethnic cleansing is Israel’s hobby.
 
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Unknowntruth said:
Thank you for putting out your clear intentions for everyone to read. I gave you the charters for you to read word for word. Everything you write is a joke, you cant even refute or answer me. You are just child’s play, you need to up your game. You Zionist genocidal maniacs have really fallen off your propaganda. Too bad, I wish I could see you guys squirm like the dogs as your propaganda is constantly exposed. Waging a war against anyone who criticizes Israel and you still cannot suppress the truth. What a joke you guys have become, I almost feel bad for you (not).

Nothing wrong with calling for the destruction of a state that occupies and ethnic cleanses another people. Yes, Israel at this current time should not exist as a racist state that it is. This does not mean the killing of Jews or ethnic cleansing of them. Ethnic cleansing is Israel’s hobby.
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Thanks to have shown denial attitude. :ROFLMAO:

That is not my intention, but my prediction as logical consequence when the looser want to insist and can't move away from their obsession to exterminate the clear winner.
 
Antonius123 said:
Thanks to have shown denial attitude. :ROFLMAO:
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You are the one in denial of Israel which is a racist pariah state. Enjoy the occupation and oppression of the Palestinian people as much as you want right now. In the end though, you will pay for your crimes.
 
Antonius123 said:
Thanks to have shown denial attitude. :ROFLMAO:

That is not my intention, but my prediction as logical consequence when the looser want to insist and can't move away from their obsession to exterminate the clear winner.
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No, we can clearly see your intentions. No reason to deny it, what are you scared of?

Consequence? Yes, let’s genocide the Palestinians because they refuse to be subjected and robbed of their homeland. You really think occupying and oppressing a people is winning? What a psycho.
 
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