Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[Unknowntruth]

I am refuting your claim saying there will be resistant if Israel rule gaza; by showing you how arab/palestine people with Israel citizenship has not been resistant toward Israel government is refuting it and support my claim that the resistance is because they are under strong Hamas influence.

Accusation of Israel being apartheid has been refuted several days ago so I dont need to repeat again.

Why do you like changing topic in the middle of discussion a certain topic? Good discussion is by focussing on topic.

But if you want to flip to apartheid accusation topic, my explanation is: the principle of equality is enshrined in Israel's Declaration of Independence, which states that the State of Israel "will ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race, or sex."

The samples you bring above is more about security concern rather than apartheid purpose.

Are you this dumb or is your heart this filled with hate?

I bring you examples of apartheid in Israeli society and you say my “samples” are for security reasons. Just because you are exposed for an apartheid state doesn’t mean you can says it’s ok because “security”.

Your own human rights organization BTSELEM calls you an apartheid state. I have provided evidence and links for you too see. If your own people call Israel an apartheid, WHY DO YOU STILL DENY IT?

 

[mulj]

Congrats people. Two morons backed by moderation destroyed topic and diverted focus from real time events and disscusion about possible all kind of help to palestinian people to overcome this genocide attempt.

 

[Musings]

Congrats people. Two morons backed by moderation destroyed topic and diverted focus from real time events and disscusion about possible all kind of help to palestinian people to overcome this genocide attempt.

Point taken.
Anymore posts other than current affairs and what the ground realities are at the moment in the Gaza conflict will be deleted.
I must also express to you brother - we are a forum and even though I am strongly against st their opinion - they are entitled to it and we ought to be a civilised community where we can rebuke and also point out the lies and hypocrisy.

 

[Antonius123]

Europe doesn't want Jews back in large numbers!! And Jews don't want to go back to Europe either, given the long long history of the pogroms against the Jews there. The real Torah Jews know that, relatively speaking, they had it far better among Muslims / under Muslim governance; even a staunch Israel supporter like Daniel Pipes admits that much.

As for Israelis fleeing Israel--it is just human nature: When you can use your dual passport to escape a war, you'd. When Portugal is giving a 'refugee' status within hours, as it is doing, to Israelis right now, then you'd flee.

It is already a terrible situation in Israel due to the current conflict where an already tiny country population is squished into central Israel--fleeing Gazans/Houthis in the south and fleeing Hezbollah in the north. You can put displaced people in hotels but that gets old quickly. Plus who'd want to live in daily sirens wailing--who'd risk investments in such places? There are nearby alternates in Turkey, Greece, Cyprus etc.

Israel has been in much worse situation esp in year 1948 and 1967, but aaliya still going on afterthat. Many of the immigrant to Israel realize the consequence migrating to ISrael as they learn the warfare history in Israel.

Current Israel military is stronger than before, and is still intact to protect their citizen and IDF has proven it by retaliating hamas and attack gaza.

Until Russia/China intervene massively in military aggression to Israel, the situation you are depicting is still far away.

 

[Hack-Hook]

Off course the police had issues with some of the rape evidence.

Consider there where some 3000 bodies laying around , some not identified for days. It took them time Just to identify who is a sick , disgusting , murderer , beheader , rapist and who is a civilian.

The usual rape kits police use , were useless in this case , as to much time passed and some of the bodies where in degraded condition.

That is not to say there was not plenty of other evidence , of eye witnesses and gory images of woman with thier private parts mutilated and their panties pulled down.

More than enough evidence to prove rape as in any criminal case.


~

wrong the rape kits are still usable after several day on dead bodies or remaining garments . and if its true why they used fake videos and photos from an incident in japan.
also from where this fake 3000 number come out and there was no several day the operation only took several hours
eye witness which eyewitness the ones who start talk after two or 3 month just like the eye witness in beheading children or throwing toddlers into ovens ?
why the narrative of released prisoners are different than that ?

 

[Unknowntruth]

WARNING GRAPHIC CONTENT

To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.

Accept third party cookies

 

[Antonius123]

You did not leave on your own will, Hamas forced you to leave. The punishment Hamas was giving you in Gaza was not worth protecting those settlements.

You did not give back anything, have you forgotten those settlements in West Bank are illegal under international law? If it was your land, those settlements wouldn’t be illegal.

The withdrawal of Israel from Gaza in 2005 was a unilateral decision, and it was not a result of contributions from or by confrontation with Hamas. The move was part of Israel's broader policy of unilateral disengagement, with various factors influencing the decision, including security considerations, international pressure, economic factors, and the desire to reshape borders and demographics.

If only considering international pressure, Israel can ignore it the way she ignore international pressure for her to stop settlement in west bank area C. It seems you have no idea about Oslo Accord.

 

[Unknowntruth]

The withdrawal of Israel from Gaza in 2005 was a unilateral decision, and it was not a result of contributions from or by confrontation with Hamas. The move was part of Israel's broader policy of unilateral disengagement, with various factors influencing the decision, including security considerations, international pressure, economic factors, and the desire to reshape borders and demographics.

If only considering international pressure, Israel can ignore it the way she ignore international pressure for her to stop settlement in west bank area C. It seems you have no idea about Oslo Accord.

You are still hijacking this thread. Mods warn him to stay on topic so we can continue the discussion of the genocide taking place in Gaza.

 

[Musings]

Keep going guys - the next off topic remark will get at least a thread ban

 

[Unknowntruth]

Is this Falcon29 under a different name? Did he create a new profile? Mods, please bring him under control as he is once again disrupting the entire thread.

I am not Falcon29 , I was a member in the old forum since like 2010. Don’t accuse me of being someone I am not when you have no basis for this accusation.

 

[Kambojaric]

But if you want to flip to apartheid accusation topic again, my explanation is: the principle of equality is enshrined in Israel's Declaration of Independence, which states that the State of Israel "will ensure complete equality of social and political rights to all its inhabitants irrespective of religion, race, or sex."

Article 125 of the Soviet constitution ensured freedom of speech for all Soviet citizens. Now if somebody tried to criticize Stalin the consequences would not follow the details of article 125. The point? Nations lie about their goals and beliefs. Israel is no exception and has for all intents and purposes created an apartheid regime which treats various sets of peoples differently based on their backgrounds. I take the word of anti-apartheid fighters like Tutu more seriously than whatever fantasy the Israeli constitution might try to depict.

"“I know first-hand that Israel has created an apartheid reality within its borders and through its occupation. The parallels to my own beloved South Africa are painfully stark indeed,”

 

[HAIDER]

WARNING GRAPHIC CONTENT

To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.

Accept third party cookies

Anybody of there .............................

Inna Lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji'un

 

[mulj]

Point taken.
Anymore posts other than current affairs and what the ground realities are at the moment in the Gaza conflict will be deleted.
I must also express to you brother - we are a forum and even though I am strongly against st their opinion - they are entitled to it and we ought to be a civilised community where we can rebuke and also point out the lies and hypocrisy.

It is simple, if Hamas says no release of prisoners until comprehensive talks for cease fire and future conditions for Gaza people, then we also should not engage in futile discussions about history, general politics etc.,
By my logic everybody who supports occupying entity is enemy just same like so called idf is enemy of palestinians and as i am man of simple logic, no talk and discussion while war goes on with enemy.

 

[Dalit]

I know this is off topic and it is a school fight. This still shows the hypocrisy of people. They were laughing while a Muslim student was attacked. When another student came to defend the Muslim student, everyone tried to break it up and did not like there bully get beaten up.

This is Palestine being attacked while everyone watches and laughs. The moment Israel gets a taste of their medicine, everyone is quick to cry. Same thing with the hypocrisy in supporting Ukraine but not Palestine.

To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.

Accept third party cookies

It perfectly illustrates the situation.

 

[Musings]

I am not Falcon29 , I was a member in the old forum since like 2010. Don’t accuse me of being someone I am not when you have no basis for this accusation.

Bro please ignore - stay on topic and il deal with it