Bangladesh Socio-Political Crisis 2024 and onwards

[LeonBlack08]

The proposal to get Dr Yunus as interim govt head is brilliant as he is not in politics and widely respected by all parties except Hasina and BAL, but who cares about them anyway

 

[AbuShalehRumi]

BREAKING NEWS

The student leaders presented their plan in social media. They would like Dr Muhammad Yunus to lead the interim govt. They talked to Dr Yunus and he agreed to take the responsibility.
The students will present the proposal and try to get the interim govt in power by tomorrow.

12M views · 323K reactions | ড. মুহাম্মদ ইউনূসকে প্রধান উপদেষ্টা করে ছাত্র-নাগরিক অভ্যুত্থানের অন্তর্বর্তীকালীন সরকার গঠন করা হবে। | Asif Mahmud

ড. মুহাম্মদ ইউনূসকে প্রধান উপদেষ্টা করে ছাত্র-নাগরিক অভ্যুত্থানের অন্তর্বর্তীকালীন সরকার গঠন করা হবে।

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Our Gen Z knows how to do things fast and effectively. Nobel Peace Laureate Professor Muhammad Yunus is a great choice.
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BTW, a huge gain for USA...

 

[LeonBlack08]

Our Gen Z knows how to do things fast and effectively. DR MD Yonus is a great choice.
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BTW, a huge gain for USA...

Yes, this is tactical move because now the students have US blessing too. Although it could be speculated that the idea was planted by US. Regardless, he is someone who is widely accepted in BD and Globally

 

[Bengal71]

Read post before replying

I did. Its a moronic post.

 

[Nilgiri]

@Afif , @Raj-Hindustani @Joe Shearer @Nilgiri

Possible reasons for India to be nervous if the US is indeed provided a foothold against China in BD?

Encroachment?
Balance altering?
Frenemy surveillance?

I don't see much US presence in all this (from the panoply corpus of what went on regd BD in the last few months that I gathered from trusted BD friends and associates past the media news and social media etc), in any real concerted way.

This was almost entirely self-inflicted by SHW "every issue a nail needing an outsized hammer" own ego + extreme defense mechanism (if you psychoanalyse to some degree what happened to her family and then had a grenade thrown at her rally some years back and everything else related to this politically).

In any case if the US is that good to have played some engineering role here, India would not be too upset as long as PRC is continued to be contained/constrained by what shapes up in BD later.

Indian population is huge itself, but the world enjoys a 6:1 disparity with India in that population ratio term too....i.e similar to ones that India roughly enjoys over Pakistan and BD separately.

US is a quad partner with a massive shared objective to India (w.r.t PRC) on the Asian sphere up to 2050 at least, and possibly to 2100 even.

BD is too big and significant a country for India to keep in some Hasina/BAL corner arc/status quo (enjoyed since 2009 and its BDR mutiny and working arrangements made between the BD army and BAL for 15 years that got upset major way in the end)....that too permanently against the forces of a larger changing world.

When it comes to whatever dynamic has to be forked over to handle BD non-Indian propensity and hedging and counter balancing.....US will be preferred magnitudes over PRC in those by India.

BD itself will likely hedge these 3 the best it can manage as it sees, depending on the regime/admin that shapes up flavour wise in the short, mid and long term (that remains to be seen).

Its the basic security calculus posed by PRC presence in tibet relative to the silguri corridor, NE India etc....relative to USA (which has nothing threatening here to India).

Well typing that was oddly thematically coincidental with this piece of music playing in background on my end here:

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@VCheng @Waz @Mr X

 

[nahtanbob]

I don't see much US presence in all this (from the panoply corpus of what went on regd BD in the last few months that I gathered from trusted BD friends and associates past the media news and social media etc), in any real concerted way.

This was almost entirely self-inflicted by SHW "every issue a nail needing an outsized hammer" own ego + extreme defense mechanism (if you psychoanalyse to some degree what happened to her family and then had a grenade thrown at her rally some years back and everything else related to this politically).

In any case if the US is that good to have played some engineering role here, India would not be too upset as long as PRC is continued to be contained/constrained by what shapes up in BD later.

Indian population is huge itself, but the world enjoys a 6:1 disparity with India in that population ratio term too....i.e similar to ones that India roughly enjoys over Pakistan and BD separately.

US is a quad partner with a massive shared objective to India (w.r.t PRC) on the Asian sphere up to 2050 at least, and possibly to 2100 even.

BD is too big and significant a country for India to keep in some Hasina/BAL corner arc/status quo (enjoyed since 2009 and its BDR mutiny and working arrangements made between the BD army and BAL for 15 years that got upset major way in the end)....that too permanently against the forces of a larger changing world.

When it comes to whatever dynamic has to be forked over to handle BD non-Indian propensity and hedging and counter balancing.....US will be preferred magnitudes over PRC in those by India.

BD itself will likely hedge these 3 the best it can manage as it sees, depending on the regime/admin that shapes up flavour wise in the short, mid and long term (that remains to be seen).

Its the basic security calculus posed by PRC presence in tibet relative to the silguri corridor, NE India etc....relative to USA (which has nothing threatening here to India).

Well typing that was oddly thematically coincidental with this piece of music playing in background on my end here:

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@VCheng @Waz @Mr X

There seems to be widespread discontent in Bangladesh. How well is the Bangladeshi economy really doing ? I have never seen sudden protests in a country supposedly doing well. Unless someone in Bangladesh establishment decided to dump Hasina.

How can Bangladesh hedge against India using China ? Especially when USA is countering China with India. Especially when most of Bangladesh's exports are going to USA/Japan/EU. I never understood the logic here. This does not mean Bangladesh cannot execute infra projects with China if it is mutually beneficial.

The CIA is incapable of executing these color revolutions with any kind of determinism.
Political science majors are never that good.
@Nilgiri

 

[VCheng]

I don't see much US presence in all this (from the panoply corpus of what went on regd BD in the last few months that I gathered from trusted BD friends and associates past the media news and social media etc), in any real concerted way.

But it is always cathartic to blame Uncle Sam for everything without changing anything.

 

[nahtanbob]

Hasina wajid never came out of 1971 and now his father statue is lying broken in Dhaka.

"The protest began in June 2024, in response to the Supreme Court of Bangladesh reinstating a 30% quota for descendants of freedom fighters"

Basically giving jobs to Hasina loyalists in the name of freedom fighter descendants. lmao

Even Pakistan doesn't have such pathetic quota system.

Don't you guys have quotas for Sindhis in Sind ? I heard it from a Urdu background Pakistani from Karachi

 

[gbrchplndpjri]

USA, Japan and EU own Bangladesh's exports. They can cripple Bangladesh on a flip

Example #102832712 showing Bhartis are insane and hideously cruel, vicariously living through countries like USA and Japan crippling Bangladesh in some imaginary nightmare scenario where they decide to I guess sanction Bangladeshi exports. Is this the only way these people are able to get a good night's rest?

 

[gbrchplndpjri]

South Asians learnt the word genocide on twitter and then never stopped using it inappropriately

Don't say South Asians, you're lumping us all in with these freaks.

For the last few months, they were jeering and gloating when the only people getting killed were civilian protesters. What changed? The stooge government collapsed! So now apparently it's an all out slaughterfest and the only people being targeted are Hindus! What a coincidence, no? After long protests against the government, Bangladeshis somehow realize their true enemies are Hindus and decide to go all out against them!

It's a fuckin joke and of course the people who buy it the most are Bhartis, because not only are they very stupid, but they also have a fanatical obsession with Sanatan and/or Islam. It's like clockwork, if something is happening, expect the Bishwaguru swine to somehow mention Sanatan / Islam.

 

[nahtanbob]

Example #102832712 showing Bhartis are insane and hideously cruel, vicariously living through countries like USA and Japan crippling Bangladesh in some imaginary nightmare scenario where they decide to I guess sanction Bangladeshi exports. Is this the only way these people are able to get a good night's rest?

Whether you like it or not USA is still uno numero. China is emerging as number two power on the planet. Nothing changes the fact USA & India want to mutually hedge against China.

In case you were under a cave the Pakistani army generals folded or pretended to fold without a single shot fired. Why would Bangladesh be any different ? The real issue for India with Bangladesh is not some imaginary alliance with China. The real issue would be a collapse of the Bangladesh economy which would send tens of million refugees running all around the place

 

[Nilgiri]

But it is always cathartic to blame Uncle Sam for everything without changing anything.

Vast power and presence in the current reality.... needing hard work and time to understand in any meaningful way? Where's the fun and convenience in that?.... its inevitable for most average minds with little work and time invested to come to preset reductive conclusions that the big guy is omniscient and omnipotent...either as metaphysical parallel or substitute for the concept of ultimate "alpha and the omega" big guy in first place....some weird crisis of faith inside essentially.

Dear beloved of mine was watching some olympics and never heard of the "marshall islands" and enquired what and where they were. Well as we watched further... I took her on a great arc of tangent, from the early pacific war campaigns, it was once a US territory....that "hawaii itself" (pearl harbour and all) was a territory at the time....that theres a reason the US had 48 stars on its flag for both world wars....

....that big ole flag you see emblazoned in the great prologue of the movie "Patton" as he (G.C Scott) delivers his speech....and that whatever rawness he gives to make you feel like you're another grunt sitting with the others....he does end with "i'll be proud to lead you wonderful guys.....anywhere....anytime"....and then the score by Goldsmith commences to that desert battle landscape in the title credits. That to me this defines a great deal of my sense of the US at its core....it cannot be really known, it can only really be felt....

....and that they don't make movies like that anymore heh....prologues and intense themes and potent cinemascapes front loaded to set a mood to imbibe every single detail for life.

Yes I remember details very vividly that concern the greatest moments and arcs of great countries.....I recreate them verbatim with quite some ease.

Others never bother with the slightest and immediately stick out as such being a polar opposite to me. A horse never led to water in first place...forget about drinking of the water....as the horse long decided an entire cardinal direction was a foul heading.

Each country can thus be misunderstood/misjudged in the same way...accidentally or deliberately. Bangladesh certainly is to its extent, Pakistan too...as goes for India...and China....and maybe least surprisingly the US given its impact in the 20th century that led to this current one.

The bigger and more powerful you are, the more easy it is to deliberately misunderstand with all the inconsistencies and hypocrisies along the way neatly warped or imagined away to fit a bogeyman crutch inside you...if thats what you set out to do.

 

[Nilgiri]

There seems to be widespread discontent in Bangladesh. How well is the Bangladeshi economy really doing ? I have never seen sudden protests in a country supposedly doing well. Unless someone in Bangladesh establishment decided to dump Hasina.

How can Bangladesh hedge against India using China ? Especially when USA is countering China with India. Especially when most of Bangladesh's exports are going to USA/Japan/EU. I never understood the logic here. This does not mean Bangladesh cannot execute infra projects with China if it is mutually beneficial.

The CIA is incapable of executing these color revolutions with any kind of determinism.
Political science majors are never that good.
@Nilgiri

Suffice to say the BD economy is

A) not going as well as the Hasina regime projected/asserted

B) fairly similar to the Indian and Pakistani economies in that attention is most focused/hogged on the 1% and 10% population to begin with....the 90% in all 3 countries largely live the same very materially poor livelihoods and are grossly ignored.

The economy of south asia is a stratified one and thus there are big voids and miscalculations when you do as required and focus solely on what accumulates at the apex for a chosen few to take decisions on for the larger whole.....and the distortions/games they play here to keep that easy street status quo.

 

[Nilgiri]

How can Bangladesh hedge against India using China ? Especially when USA is countering China with India. Especially when most of Bangladesh's exports are going to USA/Japan/EU. I never understood the logic here. This does not mean Bangladesh cannot execute infra projects with China if it is mutually beneficial.

Simple. I believe the current account for BD is more or less around 0 i.e what goes in is also what goes out here.

That means whatever the inflow/outflow of the capital account is also around 0. There is more strategic control a country can exercise here with its levers regarding inflows and outflows...so BD can elect to continue to pursue a more China-based focus here (basically infra project capital and so on)....without overdoing it.

But really this is only conversations to have next year or 2026....once we know BD trajectory more, and the new BD govt has done some accountability on BAL govt figures and mishandling if they elect to do that.

 

[HAIDER]

Again Military played dirty role in Bangladesh. They brought her in power , made her strong then gave her escape route. Now military again trying to form Hybrid govt.