Bangladesh Socio-Political Crisis 2024 and onwards

[Nilgiri]

Interesting Read …..



US Desperate For Military Base In Bangladesh; Conspires To Carve New State From B’Desh & Myanmar*

Several Western nations, including the United States and Britain, are conspiring to create a Christian state, taking parts of Bangladesh, Myanmar, and even India.

With this notorious agenda, they have secretly joined hands with the Kuki-Chin National Front (KNF) and several regional insurgency groups, including Paresh Baruah, the kingpin of the United Liberation Front of Assam (ULFA).

Bangladesh Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina disclosed this when she told leaders of the 14-party alliance that a plot is on to carve out “a Christian state like East Timor,” taking parts from Bangladesh and Myanmar. She refrained from mentioning the name of India.

She also said a white man offered her a hassle-free reelection in the 7 January polls provided she allowed a foreign country to establish an air base in Bangladesh territory. Here again, the Bangladesh Prime Minister did not name the nationality of that “white man.”
Sheik Hasina mentioned that business activities have been going through the Bay and the Indian Ocean since ancient times. “Many have their eyes on this place. There is no controversy here, no conflict. I won’t let that happen. This is also one of my crimes [in their eyes]”, she said.

About the proposal for the airbase, the premier said, “The offer came from a white man. It may appear that it is aimed at only one country, but it is not. I know where else they intend to go. There will be more trouble. But don’t worry about it. “If I allowed a certain country to build an airbase in Bangladesh, then I would have had no problem.”

Although the Prime Minister did not mention the name of the country that wants to establish an airbase in Bangladesh, it is well-assumed that the name of that country is the US. For many years, Washington has been eyeing St. Martin Island, a small island (area only 3 km2) in the northeastern part of the Bay of Bengal, about 9 km south of the tip of the Cox’s Bazar-Teknaf peninsula, forming the southernmost part of the country.

Earlier, in June 2023, there was a rumor in Dhaka stating Washington was demanding St. Martin Island in exchange for the favor of the ruling Awami League government. Later, during a press conference, Matthew Miller, spokesperson for the US Department of State, asserted that the United States has never engaged in any discussions regarding taking control of St Martin’s Island or has any intention to do so.

During a parliamentary discussion on June 14, 2023, Rashed Khan Menon, president of the Workers Party of Bangladesh, alleged that the United States is after Saint Martin’s Island and that the new US visa policy is part of a strategy for “regime change.”

He said, “The US wants Saint Martin’s Island, and they want Bangladesh in the Quadrilateral Security Dialogue (Quad). They are doing everything to destabilize the current government”.

On June 19, 2023, Jatiya Samajtantrik Dal President Hasanul Haque Inu expressed his concerns, questioning whether the US is meddling in Bangladesh’s affairs for the sake of democracy or for control of Saint Martin’s Island.

Inu said, “It’s time for us to think about the reason for America’s over-enthusiasm. Is it Democracy or Saint Martin’s Island? The United States has suddenly become very enthusiastic about Bangladesh. They actually want to make Bangladesh a playground to ‘dominate’ India”.

In 2003, then-US Ambassador Mary Ann Peters ruled out media speculation that Washington was desperate to lease a military base from Dhaka to station its forces somewhere between the Far and Middle East(s).

“The United States has no plans, no requirement, and no desire for a military base on St. Martin’s Island, Chittagong, or anywhere else in Bangladesh,” she said on July 2, 2003, while addressing a seminar titled ‘Security of South Asia: A US Perspective’ at the Bangladesh Institute of International and Strategic Studies (BIISS).

Whatever US State Department officials have or are saying, it is no secret to many that Washington is looking to establish a naval or air base in Bangladesh.

Meanwhile, for several years, Christian missionaries, as well as Western NGOs, have been secretly working in bordering areas in Bangladesh, India, and Myanmar, such as Teknaf, Khagrachhari, Rangamati, Mizoram, Meghalaya, Arakan Province, etc. with twin goals – converting Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists and ethnic minorities into Christianity and preparing grounds for creation of a Christian state comprising lands belonging to Bangladesh, India and Myanmar.

Christian missionary publications have been running well-orchestrated propaganda with false claims of “Christian persecution” within these areas. They even attempt to connect the tribal population of Bangladesh, India, and Myanmar by stating, “Chin-Kuki-Mizo are a Mongol people, and today they speak related but distinct Tibeto-Burman languages.

More than one million Chin live in Myanmar, one million Mizo live in Mizoram, half a million Kuki live in Manipur, and tens of thousands of Kuki live in Bangladesh. In addition, due to the ongoing fighting between the Myanmar army and the Chin people, hundreds of thousands of Chin have fled overseas, including 80,000 in the United States”.

Countering this narratives of Christian missionaries, some analysts said, “Historically, the Kukis are known to practice Animism (worship different deities and spirits) and headhunting (hunting a human and collecting the severed head after killing the victims, sometimes more portable body parts)nowadays they following Messianic Judaism, The Bnei Menashe are composed of Chin Kuki Zo whose ancestors migrated into northeast, and in Manipur most of them came from Myanmar.

The Kukis in Manipur are also demanding to return to Israel. Mr. P.S. Haokip, who is of Burmese/Myanmar origin and also Chairman of KNA (Kuki National Army) and other insurgency groups they claimed as Kukis are the lost tribe of Israel while he has written to the Israel Prime Minister to recognize Bnei Menashe in Northeast India.

Mr. Haokip said that the Kukis are not Indian, they are just visitors; their real place is Israel and they claimed themselves as Jews the lost tribe of Israel.

In July 2023, Hindu Post in a report said, “Christian nationalist MNF govt makes ‘homeland’ call via unification of Mizo-Kuki-Chin-Zomi tribals living in Bharat, Myanmar and Bangladesh”.

Bangladesh authorities said there are external connections between the activities of the Kuki-Chin National Front and other groups in India and Myanmar. The KNF allegedly is involved in a long-standing plan to establish a separate eastern state in the region. Other analysts have described the KNF’s agenda and modus operandi in several articles.

Meanwhile, to hide their actual agenda of establishing a Christian state, leaders of KNF joined hands with an Islamist militancy outfit named Jamaat Ul Ansar Fil Hind Al Sharqiya (JAFHS), whereas the media was told that JAFHS, with military support from KNF, was trying to establish ‘Caliphate Village’ within Chittagong Hill Tract areas.

Kingpins of this dangerous group wanted to buy lands and run militancy activities under the garb of agricultural farms. They also were planning to lure local residents towards religious conversion. For this mission, JAFHS had established secret connections with several leaders of Tablighi Jamaat.

As a counterterrorism specialist, my opinion here is – that the connections or relations between the Kuki-Chin National Front and Jamaat Ul Ansar Fil Hind Al Sharqiya were purely strategic, and KNF wanted to use JAFHS in spreading terrorist acts within the targeted hilly areas in Bangladesh and India as well as Arakan State in Myanmar to simplify their real agenda of establishing a Christian state by disintegrating lands belonging to the three neighboring nations.

Once such a vicious plot is materialized – Western nations, especially the United States and Britain, would get access to the entire region by riding on its planned Christian state by using it as their vessel state. Undoubtedly, this is a serious threat to the national security of Bangladesh, India, and Myanmar – which can only be effectively confronted under the collaborative efforts of these three countries.

Salah Uddin Shoaib Choudhury is an internationally acclaimed multi-award-winning journalist, writer, research scholar, counterterrorism specialist, and Editor, Blitz, a newspaper publishing from Bangladesh since 2003. He regularly writes for local and international newspapers. Follow him on X @Salah_Shoaib

This was SHW late stage bogeyman theory regd US to try counterbalance (to her loyalists and cadre) what she saw as growing american hostility to her.

The author of this piece seems bit biased too:

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[Pingle]

Why do you think India never accepted US as mediator on Kashmir dispute? Despite Pakistan and USA asking repeatedly for accepting US as a mediator?
India can never surrender kashmir to Pakistan because USA wants to

We are not at all talking about surrendering kashmir.... it's about USA having base in BoB...

 

[MH.Yang]

China + Pakistan it's going to be.... China is already many folds powerful than India add nuclear Pakistan in that and see.... UK too is a nuclear power with ICBMs.... they still need USA....

You're making a big mistake. The US is trying to make India its dog to pester the Chinese, not the US trying to be India's dog.

Look at the Philippines, did the Americans fight for the Philippines? Or is the Philippines bleeding for the US?

Do you think India can control America or America can control India? Self-righteous Indians. You want to be America's Israel, but you'll end up being America's Ukraine.

 

[LeonBlack08]

This was SHW late stage bogeyman theory regd US to try counterbalance (to her loyalists and cadre) what she saw as growing american hostility to her.

The author of this piece seems bit biased too:

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The author is a very questionable character. If I remember correctly, he had Mossad links and such. Don't recall fully now. He used to publish weekly blitz. Shady character.

And yes, completely agree - the bs about base is Hasina's way of antagonizing US in response to the sanctions on her army chief and RAB.

Edit: guess I recalled correctly

 

[Zarvan]

Challo, the only thing that was (truly) missing in this Topic was the ISI angle - by Arnab Goswhatzhisface.

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If India wants to give Pakistan's ISI the credit for removing Sheikh Hasina - and the people are happy, I guess we'll take it.

What happened to one of the World's Fastest Growing Economy, GDP, Trip to the Moon Nation...?!!

Abhe bhee ISI say phati hai...

@Windjammer @Quwa @Bilal @LeGenD @Oscar @Areesh @ARMalik @Dalit @DESERT FIGHTER @Falcon26 @FuturePAF @GriffinsRule @HRK @HAIDER @Hakikat ve Hikmet @Maarkhoor @Mrc @Path-Finder @Panzerkiel @pwfi @super falcon @Vortex @White and Green with M/S @Yasser76 @Zarvan @ziaulislam

Even ISI guys sitting in their offices while watching TV will be scratching their heads and saying when the hell we did this. Indians have made us a much bigger beast then we really are.

 

[Circadian Rhythm]

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[Bengal71]

Why even hold Bangladesh and be responsible for 170 million folks ?? just seize a few strategic areas and make the rest a mega-Gaza strip. It won't be stable

To be able to do that, you guys first need to be anything but road shitters. Get out of delusions, wake up and smell your own poop on the rail line.

 

[Bengal71]

Talk of war between India and BD is very dumb this late in picture given all the other avenues to come to mutual working agreement between India and BD where all parties continue peacefully to get to 2050 in better shape socioeconomically as the main priority.

Please ignore the idiot bhakts who refuse to concede on some basic realities, they live in mental safe spaces to armchair general.

Talk of war is very far off.

Before war, a case for the war is needed, en excuse is required. Even if an excuse if found, they comes the cvalculations of the pros and cons. Then comes the selling of the said war to the opposition parties in a democracy. Then starts the war and within a few months, as money keeps pouring out of the coffers and directed from essential things to the war, as the war continues one must keep selling the war to the opposition and the people at all times.

Problems of life is that you get all types of people who have their 'valuable' opinions and you must put up with them patiently. Types like the intelligent, the dumbs, the fanatics, the grown up adults and all the rest.

 

[Bengal71]

I was hoping for long life for him.

LKY lived till 91, pretty good genetics and to me Yunus has not aged that much.

I bring up LKY because I know Singapore pretty intimately, and LKY was given a special emeritus/mentorship role after he left PM role....i.e senior minister and then minister mentor....basically 20 years of post PM political stewardship.

If BD can have Yunus is relatively good shape (he is older than Biden but he has very good mental faculty still listening to him, basically age affects different folks differently).....for say at least 5 years, I think a good organisation can form under him for future BD politics after he is gone.....however that later splits if need be (but all on same principled page for the long term etc).

Vestiges of BAL, BNP will be there (whatever the big tent new start party doesnt absorb)....and of course a few other more fringe parties/allies to them in this scenario.

Anyway thats why I hope Mr. Yunus lives as long as possible and has as much influence as possible.

Ofc ideally BD would have had him in power or in opposition challenging for last 15+ years....to make best use of his sweetspot years as possible, but that ship sailed sadly.

Yunus seems to be in good health at 84. We can potentially squeeze 5 years worth of service out of him, 10 years if we are lucky.

 

[PakAl]

BD Army HQ's top-most floor was allocated to RAW. Only a handful of BD officers were allowed to go there. It's from the officers inside the BD army. No promotions beyond 1-star could happen without RAW's approval. It was a situation like hell. No wonder the reaction is also like hell.....

Every aspect of BD's policy making and execution was controlled by Bharat via her agents at key positions, thanks to the Hasina's autocracy....

RAW agents used to be present inside the interrogation cells of the DGFI (ISI equivalent).....

The Muslims in BD hate Bharat 10x more than the Paks do......

One good thing about Prof Yunus, the coming head of the interim government, is he's directly connected to the Western Establishment. He understands their mindset. He needs no help from Bharat to connect to them......

In this video clip a famous BD analyst is asking the Bharati leadership to try to understand why the BD folks dislike them so much. They should stop interfering in BD's internal matters. If BD has 4K km of border with them they have also 4k Km of border with BD.....

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Sounds like what Pakistan mentioned about Mujiber Rehman, about his close connections with India, on how he received help from India and finally India intervened via military to help their ally, Pakistan leadership too complained that Indian army and agents are instigating the people against Pakistan, giving them arms, using Pakistan army uniform to kill innocents, and raping women in order to cause hatred and civil war, once a rebellion starts then the bullet doesn't look at who's who. After his death his daughter continued his policy of being close to India, allowing India access to Bangladesh to protect her rule. Modi sarkar also confirmed they funded, trained rebels and liberated Bangladesh.

I condemn whatever killing took place by Pak troops, the people responsible should be punished ofcourse. Just pointing out the similarities.

 

[PakAl]

Yunus seems to be in good health at 84. We can potentially squeeze 5 years worth of service out of him, 10 years if we are lucky.

I think he's a good option, if he is interim PM then he will not be able to participate in the coming elections, so that's 5 years gone. Hopefully new political party will be formed with youth, students, professionals, clean politicians becoming part of it. End of toxic 2 Begum politics.

 

[Alter_Ego]

"Non-interference" as backbone is just talk, and cheap talk.

Actions prove otherwise, especially in Burma when it comes to China.

Big powers can never resist from it....all that matters is can we get away with it and is it worth it.

Of course everything is relative to something.

China generally isnt actively involveld in any kind of regime change or color revolution type of thing. It saves them lot of energy and money. China usually just waits out and cooperates with the whoever runs the country.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Even ISI guys sitting in their offices while watching TV will be scratching their heads and saying when the hell we did this. Indians have made us a much bigger beast then we really are.

Even if their marriages go wrong they'd blame the ISI....

 

[Circadian Rhythm]

Talk of war is very far off.

Before war, a case for the war is needed, en excuse is required. Even if an excuse if found, they comes the cvalculations of the pros and cons. Then comes the selling of the said war to the opposition parties in a democracy. Then starts the war and within a few months, as money keeps pouring out of the coffers and directed from essential things to the war, as the war continues one must keep selling the war to the opposition and the people at all times.

Problems of life is that you get all types of people who have their 'valuable' opinions and you must put up with them patiently. Types like the intelligent, the dumbs, the fanatics, the grown up adults and all the rest.

The danger is that
A few Radicals on your side will drag both countries into War

A Rouge Colonel is enough to create a border incident which flares up soon

With new found political patronage , people get weird ideas

When any such thing happens who.will take responsibility

 

[Bengal71]

The danger is that
A few Radicals on your side will drag both countries into War

A Rouge Colonel is enough to create a border incident which flares up soon

With new found political patronage , people get weird ideas

When any such thing happens who.will take responsibility

We won't get weird ideas, neither do we have radicals that will just start a stupid war.

Look inside your own house.