Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[r3alist]

The Arabs have clearly chosen trade with Israel over Palestine. Shameful and ugly creatures.

Morocco, Jordan, Egypt, UAE and Saudi Arabia. The axis of Satan.

Will the Arabs stop Israel from imploding

In other words, if Israel is determined to over stretch, they won't have a trading partner

 

[mulj]

I wouldn't make it this sectarian. Shias in Bahrain and Azerbaijan are not doing anything for Israel (in fact, Shias in Azerbaijan are overtly supplying oil to Israel).

Sunnis in Yemen and Palestine are fighting Israel hard. The other Sunni Arab regimes are unpopular puppet regimes imposed by the West and reliant on the West for their security. Egypt and Jordan are the biggest culprits in this, they have totally abandoned the Palestinians despite their proximity to Palestine.

It is sectarian in this sense, gulf regimes are more afraid of Iran political influence more then they hate zionist regime which i am pretty sure they do on basic level, from that perspective they tolerate everything mix it with money they generate and spend with west and you get what you have now.
They expelled assad (i hate that regime from bottom of my heart) expressly once the civil war started from arab league but they maintained cordial and proper economic relations with zionists. That is the setup which you have to deal with.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Fair enough and I was going to mention the treacherous Shia Azeris but they can only betray Palestine through Sunni Turkey which ships their oil to the Zionists.

Anyway, I thought the Houthis were Shia?

True Ansarallah are mostly Shia. But 65% of Yemen is Sunni. Very similar split to Bahrain (not related).

 

[Persian Gulf]

[persian] gulf regimes are more afraid of Iran political influence more then they hate zionist regime

I agree 100%, this is part of the root issue

 

[Meengla]

Right now they are both competing for resources and propaganda, this to me is not democracy in action because how the heck is hundreds of billions diverted away from Americans in their interest?

I am not totally clear on how the war economy doesn't benefit the American overall economy. The former CIA analyst Larry C. Johnson, who I respect, recently said 'American economy will collapse' if the Military Industrial Complex is out of business. And also recently Senator Rand Paul challenged his colleagues who were justifying the war spending to stimulate the American economy; he is careful on Israel, unlike his father, so he referred to the spending on the Ukraine war. But I think I can guess where Rand Paul's sympathies lie.

zbigniew brzezinski, an ethnic pole, probably a minor aristocrat heritage hated Russia, was annoyed with the neo cons, he represented one faction

"Zbig" was the last high ranking American official to had loathed the Zionists; he served under Carter who I believe to be the last truly good-natured American President; Carter was also a great friend of the Palestinians, relatively speaking. Since 1991, it has been increasingly Zionist Occupied Govt in America and one day Historians are going to probably trace it to the Fall of the Soviet Union in 1991.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Hamas fires M90 rocket at Tel Aviv

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[UKBengali]

Trump got $100 million from Miriam Adelson to support Israel recently. He had no need to declare American approval of the annexation of the Golan Heights or recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital. Since 1967, for 50 years, various American Presidents had not gone that. Trump had no need to appease Israel when he was a President. And yet he did. Why did he do that? I don't know. Perhaps an arrogant mind who is also good at detecting weakness in his opponents. Who knows what he is going to do in Palestine should he become the President again. He could well put Netanyahu out of power through a CIA coup--not hard to do--or just bomb the Palestinians and the neighborhood into rubble.

Trump would be even more pro-entity than even Biden is.

But this would be a good thing!

The "sweet talk" from the Biden administration has allowed the European vassals like the UK/Germany and others to go support or at least go along with the genocide. Their societies would no longer tolerate supporting a US that was openly facilitating genocide and so "pretence" is required.

If Trump comes in and openly supports the genocide then the US is all alone against everyone else in supporting the entity.

As for why, look at his son-in-law Jewish Kushner and how the rich Zionist Jews in US are bankrolling him. Trump cares for money and power more than anything else and that is the way to make him do your bidding.


Edit - Trump would make things more difficult for the Arab Sunni pupper regimes.

 

[r3alist]

I am not totally clear on how the war economy doesn't benefit the American overall economy. The former CIA analyst Larry C. Johnson, who I respect, recently said 'American economy will collapse' if the Military Industrial Complex is out of business. And also recently Senator Rand Paul challenged his colleagues who were justifying the war spending to stimulate the American economy; he is careful on Israel, unlike his father, so he referred to the spending on the Ukraine war. But I think I can guess where Rand Paul's sympathies lie.

What Larry Johnson is describing is effect, not cause.

The problem is the existence of a war economy and diversion of resources at the cost of your own people.

If the military industrial complex is in control, it only ever thinks to war, weapons and conflict.

Also, do not confuse the stock market with the real economy

A perpetual war and debt habit is akin to being a crack addict, ofcourse a crack addict thinks more crack is the answer to everything.

 

[Liquidator]

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@Solomon2

Is that sexy bitch you Solomon?

 

[mulj]

True Ansarallah are mostly Shia. But 65% of Yemen is Sunni. Very similar split to Bahrain (not related).

They are neither shia or sunni and they are both shia and sunni by my understanding of their interpretation of Islam.

 

[925boy]

Nasrallah claims the rockets were a diversion for the 20-30 drones headed to a sensitive site north of Tel Aviv (IDF HQ) and that this was hit. Israel imposed new military censorship rules today coinciding with these strikes. so we won't know for sure if anything near Tel Aviv was actually hit.

Very interesting and thanks for sharing.

either way, both sides want to close this chapter and return to 'normal'.

They can close this chapter of the war but they can't close the "book" of this war. Unfortunately the deaths and stakes are so high right now in this war, it is easy to predict more fighting between ISrael and Hezbollah- teh reasons and motivations and timings all vary but what doesnt change is that attacks continue between both sides.

which signals weakness by Hezbollah IMO

Looking weak =/= being weak.

Hezbollah may look weak to you in this situation, but that doesn't mean its weak (in general) against Israel. Hezbollah is actually very strong, because it is able to prevent Israel from achieving its regional and strategic goals,especially during regional wars like the ongoing one in Gaza (and other parts of the region).

This war will likely go regional or intense (like between Israel and Hezbollah) before it settles down, because survival or/and "prevention of suicide option" seems to be motivating both sides in the conflict, and it doesn't look like this conflict will slow down very soon, but i hope it will (hopefully the negotiations will be successful). I dont think Israel will negotiate seriously or compromise enough until it is strategically exhausted and feeling down, and no, Israel IS organic, it can decay.

but understandable as they are inherently weaker than Israel and have more to lose in an all out war.

Being inherently weaker doesnt matter, what matters is who wins the war in the end on terms and results that are favorable to them. US and Israel are quite good and "being stronger" but meanwhile they lose 90% of their wars in modern time, to groups like the Taliban that were "iherently weaker" than they were. The inherently weaker groups apparently fighter harder and in a more determined manner, which explains their wins in recent times over these "inherently stronger" countries.

 

[Meengla]

What Larry Johnson is describing is effect, not cause.

The problem is the existence of a war economy and diversion of resources at the cost of your own people.
If the military industrial complex is in control, it only ever thinks to war, weapons and conflict.
Also, do not confuse the stock market with the real economy
A perpetual war and debt habit is akin to being a crack addict, ofcourse a crack addict thinks more crack is the answer to everything.

I think people underestimate the resilience of the American economy and the ability to bounce back. In a country of 340 million, there are bound to be all kind of people and issues. But this country is naturally blessed with resources and also has great human resources. With a little course correction, things can be put right back on track.
As to the war economy: Do we think the tens of billions going to Israel and Ukraine in weaponry, or those trillions to Afghanistan and Iraq, were/are not coming back to America in create 'jobs' and contribute to the economy?
In a country of mostly law abiding citizens of 340 millions, even if half contribute, they contribute a lot.

 

[KingQamaR]

As of now I never heard anything like "prime minister of Lebanon", "president of Lebanon", "military of Lebanon", "people of Lebanon" | only see the news of Hizbollah ..
Why?? Are they alive or not? What the f*** they are doing?? ????

 

[925boy]

Anyway, I thought the Houthis were Shia?

Houthis are 100% Shia, they are just Zaydi/Fiver Shia, not Twelver/mainstream Shia like Iranians or Iraqis.

 

[mulj]

I think people underestimate the resilience of the American economy and the ability to bounce back. In a country of 340 million, there are bound to be all kind of people and issues. But this country is naturally blessed with resources and also has great human resources. With a little course correction, things can be put right back on track.
As to the war economy: Do we think the tens of billions going to Israel and Ukraine in weaponry, or those trillions to Afghanistan and Iraq, were/are not coming back to America in create 'jobs' and contribute to the economy?
In a country of mostly law abiding citizens of 340 millions, even if half contribute, they contribute a lot.

People are naive, strenght of their economy is in direct correlation with strenght of their military which is guarantee of USD as world reserve currency and that kind of economy can not collapse unless one of those 2 factors are challenged.