Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[r3alist]

If people has at this point any doubt where is the Al Wala wal Bara of these 'leaders' here it is.

Sometimes it's not they eyes that are blind, but the hearts.

Mind to tell that defenders of the likes of MBS, MBZ did so out of extreme nationalistic sentiment, not out of clear judgement on who these people's are.

To bring some reasonable balance I believe the Saudis have long anticipated this with Israel and have always intended to use gaza as a bargaining chip, therefore Gaza was conceded in one way or another

That's just the cruel calculus of strategic cost benefit.

Everyone in the world knew this, that has to be pointed out

we, the rest of us small people, just didn't seriously take a look and anticipate

That's not the fault of Saudi

Remember there is a strong pro Saudi lobby in Pakistan and here on this forum

The Saudi selling out of Gaza therefore did not explicitly begin in October, it began as soon as they started signalling in the Abraham accords that Gaza can be sacrificed.

We all essentially forgot the sub human treatment of Gaza, in truth

 

[r3alist]

Well..tell me who is not dependent on the US in this world..

Iran

You created your own dependency.

Anyway, why did you invite eylon?

The guy who mocks the Gazans daily.

That's my question.

 

[Raiden]

To bring some reasonable balance I believe the Saudis have long anticipated this with Israel and have always intended to use gaza as a bargaining chip, therefore Gaza was conceded in one way or another

That's just the cruel calculus of strategic cost benefit.

Everyone in the world knew this, that has to be pointed out

we, the rest of us small people, just didn't seriously take a look and anticipate

That's not the fault of Saudi

Remember there is a strong pro Saudi lobby in Pakistan and here on this forum

The Saudi selling out of Gaza therefore did not explicitly begin in October, it began as soon as they started signalling in the Abraham accords that Gaza can be sacrificed.

We all essentially forgot the sub human treatment of Gaza, in truth

They sell the Muslim blood cheaply, and this is not only exclusively Saudi.

Mind to tell that the Moroccans under Mohammed VI uses the Sahrawi issue to justify the normalization with Israel. Imagine trading the holy Land for some desert in Western Africa?

These people are scum and rightfully called such.

 

[UKBengali]

IN YOUR OPINION!

This opinion also amazes me considering the beating Israel and Ukraine have taken from apparently weaker adversaries despite US throwing them all the help they could realistically need.

US for sure is weaker than it looks- just look at Ukraine- US, with 20+ other countries, ganged up together to fight Russia, and they are STILL LOSING today (aside from Kursk, none of you on PDF can tell us the last town Ukrainians took from Russia that wasn't in early 2023 or 2022).

Obviously you've forgotten the beating the Taliban gave US in Afghanistan and the "resistance" US forces got in Iraq that forced US to announce a troop withdrawal (which it mostly did but not completely, now its troops are there, secretly/without official confirmation).

No one with an ounce of intelligence can think that the US can come halfway round the world and fight the whole of the ME.

Without access to collaborators they have dotted all over the Arab world from Egypt to Qatar they would not even dare try to even get anyway near the ME. And don't even count how quickly they would run out of supplies(missiles, fuels) and then tail it back to the nearest friendly countty.

It is an excuse for Arab cowardice and collaboration.

 

[r3alist]

They sell the Muslim blood cheaply, and this is not only exclusively Saudi.

Mind to tell that the Moroccans under Mohammed VI uses the Sahrawi issue to justify the normalization with Israel. Imagine trading the holy Land for some desert in Western Africa?

These people are scum and rightfully called such.

The question is how are they in a position to speak beyond their borders for other people

The whole Imran khan, mahatir and erdogan conference fiasco really got the Saudis going for a reason

 

[The SC]

Enemy Media

Qassam fighters have an impressive ability to reach our forces in the Netzarim Corridor and engage them.

Direct clashes have been repeated during the recent period



@Hanzpal2

 

[hussain0216]

Iran

You created your own dependency.

Anyway, why did you invite eylon?

The guy who mocks the Gazans daily.

That's my question.

Iran has won the game In the middle east

Any concept or hope the GCC Arab states had to represent the Muslim world is DESTROYED

You can question irans intentions and their might be some truth to it.

But Iran has stood head and shoulders above anyone else and has declared itself as leader of the Muslim world

My respect for the leaders of Iran has increased well above the rest of the trashy cowardly leaders

 

[Raiden]

Iran

You created your own dependency.

Anyway, why did you invite eylon?

The guy who mocks the Gazans daily.

That's my question.

Am no fan of Iran.

But I am fair, one (the likes of Saudi and UAE) spend the last 30 years turning their country into an amusement park for Western pedophiles living in the country.

While the other one, use their resources and know how to build missiles, arms, and create a web of military proxies and using calculated politics advance their interest.

So you kinda wonder why despite all the wealth, and the Western weapons they imported, they ended up the looser who actually believed that they can't live without the US.

The more you dig deep into their minds, through their posts, the more you understand why they felt no shame in abandoning Palestine.

 

[925boy]

It will make war expensive for Iran to sustain & finally the utter defeat for it.This will defeat the whole purpose of having proxies.

Sure dreamer. I'll try to remember you during every anniversary of Iran's Islamic revolution.

These militias are canon fodders to keep neo-nazis fighting.

Sure

They are not there to wipe out Israel.

They havent wiped out Israel yet because of the over 500 air shipments of weapons US sent Israel. Where would Israel be today without those shipments? yup, probably destroyed.

These "militias" you underestimate and dont understand still wiped out NATO from Afghanistan, wiped out US troops from Iraq ( vast majority, which ended the occupation formally), wiped out Israel from Lebanon (by 2000), wiped out NATO's plans for Syria.

if you do not understand, pls ask questions.

 

[The SC]

The negotiating teams believe that without serious flexibility from Netanyahu regarding the Philadelphia axis, the negotiations may fail within days.

Netanyahu refuses to withdraw



@Hanzpal2

 

[Raiden]

The question is how are they in a position to speak beyond their borders for other people

The whole Imran khan, mahatir and erdogan conference fiasco really got the Saudis going for a reason

This is the part where they refuse IK to attend the Summit?

I don't know much about that, but knowing that Madkhalis ruled Saudi Arabia, we in Indonesia needs to be on high alert on the Saudi backed missionaries activities here. Muslims in Indonesia would never tolerate normalization, unlike the Madkhalis.

 

[r3alist]

No one with an ounce of intelligence can think that the US can come halfway round the world and fight the whole of the ME.

Without access to collaborators they have dotted all over the Arab world from Egypt to Qatar they would not even dare try to even get anyway near the ME. And don't even count how quickly they would run out of supplies(missiles, fuels) and then tail it back to the nearest friendly countty.

It is an excuse for Arab cowardice and collaboration.

We have to be realistic, it shows people really had an emotional connection to the Saudis, they after all are custodians of the two holy sites and they have done good things

But also they are subject to the calculus of nation states and geo politics and economics

We already knew they were sailing in the direction of Haifa, so even if they wanted to you cannot turn a ship 180 a long time ago

I am past having expectations or lament, actually I lie, I still lament but more and more the problem i see is with the slow adjustment to hard realities.

 

[The SC]

No one with an ounce of intelligence can think that the US can come halfway round the world and fight the whole of the ME.

Without access to collaborators they have dotted all over the Arab world from Egypt to Qatar they would not even dare try to even get anyway near the ME. And don't even count how quickly they would run out of supplies(missiles, fuels) and then tail it back to the nearest friendly countty.

It is an excuse for Arab cowardice and collaboration.

Did they need Arabs to fight Japan in WWII..???

Or all your posts are about how Arabs are cowards to sooth your sick mind..

 

[The SC]

Sheikh of Al-Azhar: The occupying entity was planted in our region to weaken us and distract us from our important issues..

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[r3alist]

Am no fan of Iran.

But I am fair, one (the likes of Saudi and UAE) spend the last 30 years turning their country into an amusement park for Western pedophiles living in the country.

While the other one, use their resources and know how to build missiles, arms, and create a web of military proxies and using calculated politics advance their interest.

So you kinda wonder why despite all the wealth, and the Western weapons they imported, they ended up the looser who actually believed that they can't live without the US.

The more you dig deep into their minds, through their posts, the more you understand why they felt no shame in abandoning Palestine.

Iran values human development, so their people are a resource, they would never abandon human capital because they will never abandon the sovereignty that comes with this, even the Shah was a threat because of this

Saudis have had easy wealth, in all this time they did not develop human capital, they offshored it, because they are temporary holders of the wealth, that's the deal