Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

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Channel 12 Israel: End of a limited security meeting that included senior security officials headed by Netanyahu

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It seems Russia-China are the good fellas in the world
Turkey trusts them as well

Turkish people are quite smart and intellectually very savvy

Russian values of Family , Religion , Life are inline with Muslim world
Same concept around family , respect for religion and home

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It's only US who are war mongering around the globe

I even think many European Nations would not prefer to deal with US if they had an option
 
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Are French Trustable?

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Are French Trustable?

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This would be epic !!!

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AZADPAKISTAN2009 said:
It seems Russia-China are the good fellas in the world
Turkey trusts them as well

Turkish people are quite smart and intellectually very savvy

Russian values of Family , Religion , Life are inline with Muslim world
Same concept around family , respect for religion and home

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It's only US who are war mongering around the globe
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Yes Turkey trusts Russia so much that she opposed her imperial ambitions in Karabagh, Syria, Libya and Ukraine.

Being ignorant is one thing, but once exposed to the facts to continue to parrot nonsense shows either an agenda or pure stupidity. My own experience is that this is how iranian aligned shia's behave. They behave as the enemy within the islamic world.

And remember Muslims hypocrites are the first in line to hell. Dont pretend you care for gaza but then turn a blind eye to the countless millions of Muslims the russians exterminated. The lands she usurped from them eclipses Palestine in the magnitudes.

Now if you side with that, try to justify it, then your a shaytan. Nothing more can be said. Truth be told this behaviour is probably why Muslims are being humilated globally and relentlessly by non Muslim powers.
 
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Don't understand why there are so many threads talking about Israel. This is a colonial experiment of America. Without American weapons money etc this artificial construct would be similar to a country like Jordan. They have little if any resources. They are the most successful beggar in the world. The threads should be called America vs Hamas etc. America has been taught a lesson by Vietnamese they will be taught a lesson here too just be patient. Even Afghans taught them a lesson

Problem today is people think that this is forever. That is not the case.

had you been a Christian born in the holy land when the crusaders ruled the holy land you probably would have thought that Christians would rule this land forever. Not long within a 100 year or so the Arabs got their act in order and got a leader who kicked the Crusaders out.

Give Arabs time to reclaim their land from their illegitimate leaders those appointed and supported by British and Americans. I mean come on what legitimacy have those Arabs doing deals with Israel and America really have?

the masses of Muslims today are not united on much but they are on supporting Palestine. In due course they will have leaders who will reflect them and Kick those Europeans back to Europe.

Anyways lets hope Iran has if it not already done break out and get some juicy nukes ready. They wont need to use them the Europeans will run back to their homes when the juicy nukes are ready
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I appreciate the sentiment but I disagree with some of your points because you have missed important details.

What lesson Vietnam has taught to the US? Do people even understand why Vietnam War was fought in the first place? Vietnam War was fought in the larger context of the COLD WAR and failure in Vietnam DID NOT stop the US from improving its war-machine and doing everything possible to undermine and defeat Soviet Union.

Failure in the Vietnam War was NOT in military terms but in political terms. Vietnam was not a unified state during the Vietnam War but split as North Vietnam and South Vietnam. Soviet Union and China were supporting North Vietnam and the US was supporting South Vietnam. North Vietnam's Vietcong was certainly a much better organized and capable force in comparison to South Vietnam. However, Vietcong could not defeat American troops in major clashes BUT American leaders of the time did not capitalize on American military gains on the ground [either] and decided to abandon South Vietnam in the end: related information here. This was a setback but the US learned how to improve its war-machine in the aftermath.

What lesson Afghanistan has taught to the US? Do people even understand why the US - Afghan War was fought in the first place? Do you see Al-Qaeda Network in Afghanistan and Osama Bin Laden declaring victory? All those who were involved in the 9/11 plot are DEAD and Taliban agreed to not allow Al-Qaeda Network or any organization to use Afghanistan as a launchpad or base of operations against the US in Doha Accords in 2020: related information here.

Now let's have a look at the situation of Israel.

During the Israel - Lebanon War in 2006, Hezbollah presented a new type of challenge to IDF and [then] Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert succumbed to international pressure and concluded the war without results.

In current times, Israel was up against both Hamas in Gaza and Hezbollah in Lebanon and many were of the view that Israel is toast but the current Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is a DIFFERENT BEAST in comparison to Ehud Olmert. This man mobilized IDF on a scale not seen in decades and by now not only Gaza is in ruins and Hamas degraded but Hezbollah has lost a chunk of its infrastructure and experienced leaders. This time, Hassan Nasralluh is DEAD before any movement on the ground.

The lesson is this: Every leader is different and there will be somebody who will stick to his guns and might be a superior tactican as well.

The US is not a joke that can be pushed around, American war-machine is lot more capable on a technical level but the US does not show much power in a regional war. However, nobody can be sure about what happens in the future. War is a "gamble" that might lead to a solution but it can also backfire and lead to defeat with many innocents paying with their lives in the process.

There was in fact a much better way to address the Palestinian conflict back in 2000 when [then] Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak offered [then] Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat the opportunity to create a Palestinian state that was very close in size to the pre-1967 borders. Guess what? Yasser Arafat rejected this deal. This was a blunder that continues to haunt Palestinians.

The fundamental problem is absolute lack of visionary leaders who can make good calls when the time is right.

This is the time to PRESERVE WHAT IS IN HAND and NOT PUSH IT FURTHER AND FURTHER. This is the time to preserve Lebanon as per UN resolution 1701, if possible.
 
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This man is coping. Israel has freed many hostages and Gaza is in ruins and even Hamas is doubtful about its future. Just look at how how many Hezbollah have lost by now. But men like him think that they have done an excellent job. God help the innocent in the region.
 
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Hezbollah and Iran must at all cost retaliate very hard against Israel. Failure would mean that Lebanon is the next Gaza.
 
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This man is coping. Israel has freed many hostages and Gaza is in ruins and even Hamas is doubtful about its future. Just look at how how many Hezbollah have lost by now. But men like him think that they have done an excellent job. God help the innocent in the region.
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Israel killed more prisoners than it freed
 
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heavy airstrikes in Beirut
 
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