Yemen Civil War News and Discussion.. an evolving situation

[LeGenD]

Yeah that doesn't make it a swarm tactic and I dont think you know what swarm tactics are, so I'll leave that for you to go learn.

Many countries can, namely Iran, Russia and China, as well as western countries.

IN THEORY. Anything can be claimed "in theory." This is speculation at best.

You need to study US Navy defenses for a change. They are most developed and extensive in comparison to others.

I will drop a hint: US Navy has fully functional CEC while others have poor man imitations of it. This system provides excellent situational awareness and allows US Navy to function as a cohesive fighting force. It helps detect and track huge number of objects in real time and distinguish decoys from real threats. And US Navy ships have a huge VLS count along with resupplying capability.

When you see a drone taking close up shots of a US Navy ship passing through the Persian Gulf, you can bet your house on the fact that the ship is fully aware of its presence and is allowing it to. It will be shot down in an instant otherwise. US Navy have shot down many drones in the Red Sea in fact. The message has been sent to those who had doubts.

Houthi have demonstrated impressive anti-ship capability but they cannot fight US Navy.

Some were overhyping Houthi capability and now they are silent. All the talk of macho Houthi defenses were out of the window when thet got pounded and could do nothing at the time. This is but a trailer of what US Navy can do.

It was easy to shot down a lone drone but US Navy is a different thing on the whole. Houthi will learn hard lessons from now on. These guys are picking unnecessary fights that are of no benefit to Yemen.

 

[moonaman.varavayi]

No you are making a positive claim that it did identify itself, so where is your evidence?

Please show me where I made that claim.

 

[muhammed45]

Americans will find the new pandora box worse than others that they had touched.

Yemen will not be stopped after firing cruise missiles at their facilities. The capabilities that they have is enough to teach Americans a harsh lesson.

The coming days will be worth watching.

 

[Ali_Baba]

That what Trump hate about NATO, a clan of free bees attached to UN-NATO defence budget.

As a European - i much rather prefer free healthcare for my family, than have a "big" war machine. In the last 30 years, i cannot think of many wars that the UK should have gotten involved in.

 

[Developereo]

It was easy to shot down a lone drone but US Navy is a different thing on the whole. Houthi will learn hard lessons from now on. These guys are picking unnecessary fights that are of no benefit to Yemen.

I suspect both the Iranians and the Houthis know the capabilities of USN. The aim here is not to hit any ships, unless they get lucky, but to increase shipping costs and cause enough economic pain globally to bring pressure on Israel.

To what extent the US can degrade their ability launch small drones remains to be seen.

 

[VCheng]

I suspect both the Iranians and the Houthis know the capabilities of USN. The aim here is not to hit any ships, unless they get lucky, but to increase shipping costs and cause enough economic pain globally to bring pressure on Israel.

To what extent the US can degrade their ability launch small drones remains to be seen.

Accordingly USA needs to show that the potential risks to shipping are being minimized to avoid such economic losses.

 

[abdulhaadi1988]

IN THEORY. Anything can be claimed "in theory." This is speculation at best.

You need to study US Navy defenses for a change. They are most developed and extensive in comparison to others.

I will drop a hint: US Navy has fully functional CEC while others have poor man imitations of it. This system provides excellent situational awareness and allows US Navy to function as a cohesive fighting force. It helps detect and track huge number of objects in real time and distinguish decoys from real threats. And US Navy ships have a huge VLS count along with resupplying capability.

When you see a drone taking close up shots of a US Navy ship passing through the Persian Gulf, you can bet your house on the fact that the ship is fully aware of its presence and is allowing it to. It will be shot down in an instant otherwise. US Navy have shot down many drones in the Red Sea in fact. The message has been sent to those who had doubts.

Houthi have demonstrated impressive anti-ship capability but they cannot fight US Navy.

Some were overhyping Houthi capability and now they are silent. All the talk of macho Houthi defenses were out of the window when thet got pounded and could do nothing at the time. This is but a trailer of what US Navy can do.

It was easy to shot down a lone drone but US Navy is a different thing on the whole. Houthi will learn hard lessons from now on. These guys are picking unnecessary fights that are of no benefit to Yemen.

Yeah nowhere there have you demonstrated that US Navy has experienced proper swarms tactics, you even admit it's a theory as in all your own claims are unproven as well. Swarm tactics isn't just with drones and missiles, but also with electronic warfare which I doubt the houthis have access to and I doubt the US military have properly experienced from an adversary.

That's your opinion, but powers like Iran and its proxies need to keep a balance of power, and if that means war then so be it. Not everything is about materialism, some people believe in justice and hate seeing countries in the region being allowed to commit genocide with full protection of the US. That's why Yemen or whoever has to do what it does.

 

[abdulhaadi1988]

Please show me where I made that claim.

If you're dispute the argument that they didnt make themselves known then you automatically believe that they did make themselves known. It can only be one or the other. If you say I don't know, then youre arguing from ignorance, because at least Bhans has provided more evidence than you have and its from the Houthis own mouth, regardless of how unreliable you think it is. Therefore It would still be more reliable than the zero evidence you have provided.

 

[Dalit]

I have a feeling that many people will once again be surprised, complain, and express shock about "how evil and corrupt the West is" once the Houthi terrorists are obliterated and they realize they've gotten their shit pushed in LOL.

You guys still didn't get over your Taliban defeat. Now you are dreaming about defeating a more powerful adversary with drones and missiles. An adversary that actually receives support from external powers. Dude, just calm down with your Nostradamus BS. You can't defeat the Houthis. This is a group that took control of Yemen despite Saudi support for opposition.

 

[Dalit]

Keep the BYD campaign alive folks.

Boycott every product associated with Israel as best you can.

We all have the power to stop the genocide.

McDonald's, Zara and Starbucks have been crying for sure.

 

[LeGenD]

Yeah nowhere there have you demonstrated that US Navy has experienced proper swarms tactics, you even admit it's a theory as in all your own claims are unproven as well. Swarm tactics isn't just with drones and missiles, but also with electronic warfare which I doubt the houthis have access to and I doubt the US military have properly experienced from an adversary.

That's your opinion, but powers like Iran and its proxies need to keep a balance of power, and if that means war then so be it. Not everything is about materialism, some people believe in justice and hate seeing countries in the region being allowed to commit genocide with full protection of the US. That's why Yemen or whoever has to do what it does.

I am not questioning Houthi decision to attack Israel. I simply disagree with Houthi decision to attack commercial ships. This is bad foreign policy that might lead to isolation of Yemen (more problems for innocent people in Yemen), and affect economic activity of many countries that are not responsible for what is happening in Palestine. Houthi do not have the power to stop Israel (or US) but they are creating unnecessary problems for different countries in the region. This is not a holy war but indicative of corruption and mischief under the guise of religion. Islamic way of fighting is humanitarian (Kindly check the rules that were established for Muslims in the Battle of Badr). But modern-age Muslims do not even study Holy Quran, let alone follow Islamic teachings. Some members here pretend to be holy but they are not fooling me with propaganda.

Houthi have demonstrated irresponsible leadership. They are no different from power hungry corrupt regimes out there.

Underselling American military capability is a common theme here. Houthi have struck multiple ships but they are unable to score hits on US Navy ships. The difference is obvious to anybody sensible. Your swarm attack perception is theoratical. This is what I have pointed out to you.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

The Houthi leadership does not care about the lives of the Yemeni people.

They just need money from Iran.

Quite the contrary...

Unlike US that would veto a ceasefire and arm the belligerent it helped create. Houthis asked with nothing to their name but their location to push a ceasefire.

Guess what, China sitting right across in Djibouti, being the largest exporter in the world does nothing... yet US shows up... not helping stop the conflict but expand it.

As things start shaping up for the election and dire numbers for Biden... perpetuating this conflict just like his friend Mileikowsky may help him retain power... exactly the kind of compromise Truman made in the creation of Israel.

 

[LeGenD]

You guys still didn't get over your Taliban defeat. Now you are dreaming about defeating a more powerful adversary with drones and missiles. An adversary that actually receives support from external powers. Dude, just calm down with your Nostradamus BS. You can't defeat the Houthis. This is a group that took control of Yemen despite Saudi support for opposition.

Taliban could not defeat US forces in battles and had to accept American demand of dropping support for Al-Qaeda Network. There was also pressure from Pakistan to settle this dispute with talks. This is not victory of Taliban but a settlement that is to their benefit and existence. US have closed the chapter of Al-Qaeda Network in Afghanistan. The remainder was secondary and up for negotiation.

Taliban is not a benchmark of how different parties will fare in war with a competent side because geographic and geopolitical realities vary from region to region.

Saddam regime in Iraq was much stronger than Taliban regime in Afghanistan as well as Qaddafi regime in Libya but it was toppled in just 26 days and Debaathification project was concluded in 2011. Iraq is accessible to US via Kuwait (a country that does not bother with Iraqi issues) and American force projection in Iraq was also of a different character than in Afghanistan because it was the tougher foe. For instance, US dispatched a total of only 14 tanks to Afghanistan but hundreds of tanks to Iraq to hold as much ground as possible for the desired period of time.

Saudi-led coalition flopped due to lack of strategy and coherence. Houthi benefited from this situation.

US have had no beef with Houthi but this might change due to Houthi attacking commercial ships. This is bad news for Yemen but Houthi are too drunk in power and narcotics to understand what is better for Yemen.

USN can isolate and blockade Yemen as well as impose no fly zones on Yemen and pound Houthi for indefinite period until it collapses. US have not considered this type of response yet but it can happen. This is how US eliminated Qaddafi regime in Libya in 2011.

Houthi are trying to bite more than what they can chew in this matter. This is bad foreign policy in view of the state of Yemen. I feel sorry for innocent people in this country.

 

[abdulhaadi1988]

I am not questioning Houthi decision to attack Israel. I simply disagree with Houthi decision to attack commercial ships. This is bad foreign policy that might lead to isolation of Yemen (more problems for innocent people in Yemen), and affect economic activity of many countries that are not responsible for what is happening in Palestine. Houthi do not have the power to stop Israel (or US) but they are creating unnecessary problems for different countries in the region. This is not a holy war but indicative of corruption and mischief under the guise of religion. Islamic way of fighting is humanitarian (Kindly check the rules that were established for Muslims in the Battle of Badr). But modern-age Muslims do not even study Holy Quran, let alone follow Islamic teachings. Some members here pretend to be holy but they are not fooling me with propaganda.

Houthi have demonstrated irresponsible leadership. They are no different from power hungry corrupt regimes out there.

Underselling American military capability is a common theme here. Houthi have struck multiple ships but they are unable to score hits on US Navy ships. The difference is obvious to anybody sensible. Your swarm attack perception is theoratical. This is what I have pointed out to you.

LeGen, please speak for yourself when it comes to not following Islamic law. Kindly look at the rules of fiq, in that anything that becomes haram automatically means it becomes permissible in times of necessity. So while I accept attacking commercial ships is not allowed in times when sanctions can be used, it does become permissible when Muslim countries are turning a blind eye to Israels actions by not even sanctioning them. The treaty of hudaybiya should show to you that sulh is only done when Muslims are NOT being killed, which is the opposite of what we're seeing. So be consistent when applying shariah.

Denting Israel's economy and affecting its trading partners is no more mischievous than sanctions regime done by a nation state. So what's good for the geese is good for the gander. Secular democracies arent a part of Islam, so I don't see how Yemen is acting irresponsibly in resisting that in Yemen. Again, if Yemen is power hungry for having the ability to obtain land to practice Islam, then it's for a better cause than other nations who do exactly the same but in the name of "secular democracy"...that is IF you take Islam seriously, which I doubt. I also find it ironic that those who comment on others holiness, are themselves supporting the kaafireen in their endeavours which is nifaaq if I've ever seen it. So people shouldn't be throwing stones from glass houses.

And I keep telling you, the theory of US navy's ability to deal with a proper swarm tactic is exactly just that, a theory, for the very reasons I have already mentioned i.e it hasnt happened to them...yet.

 

[R2D2]

I wasn't talking about EU, I was talking about nationalism in the middle east. You took it off topic, but you do you.

We should have a Muslim EU comprised initially of Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Turkey, Malaysia and Indonesia and then invite other Muslim Countries to join.