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India, China agree to patrolling along LAC 'leading to disengagement'
Foreign Secretary Vikram Misri said on Monday that India and China had reached an agreement on patrolling arrangements along the Line of Actual Control (LAC).
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The statement from Jaishankar came after the foreign secretary said the Indian and Chinese negotiators were in touch over the last few weeks to resolve the remaining issues.
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Depsang ‘resolved’, patrolling to ‘agreed perceived LAC’. What India & China have agreed on
New Delhi: India and China have agreed to resume patrolling to the “agreed perceived Line of Actual Control,” including in Depsang Plains and Demchok, though there is unlikely to be any immediate thinning down of troops other than those pulled back in the winter as is the norm, ThePrint has learnt.
Sources in the defence and security establishment told ThePrint that resumption of patrolling along the perceived LAC is the first step to full-scale disengagement. They added that there would be a reduction of troops in the winter, as has been the practice over the last four years, and during this time both countries would continue to discuss complete disengagement.
The decisions would also set the stage for a possible meeting between Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Chinese President Xi Jinping on the sidelines of the BRICS meet in Russia’s Kazan later this week.
“The overall decision on proper disengagement and de-escalation will be based on decisions taken in what is expected to be a bilateral (meeting) between Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Chinese President Xi Jinping. But this is the first step towards further normalcy,” a source said.
Explaining modalities that have been worked out, sources said the main issue related to Depsang Plains has been resolved. Chinese troops will pull back to their earlier positions and not block Indian troops from the bottleneck area as they have been doing since 2020, it is learnt. A few years before 2020, the Chinese were stopping Indian troops from an area called the “Y junction”, which was ahead of the bottleneck.
Asked about Demchok, sources said the MEA announced resumption of patrolling in all areas.
It was not immediately known if Indian troops will now patrol Charding La pass as was done before 2020.
Sources also said a tent erected by the Chinese after the standoff in 2020 had been removed.
In all other locations, where disengagement was achieved earlier and buffer zones were created–Northern banks of Pangong Tso, Galwan, Hot Springs and Gogra–patrolling would be resumed by both sides.
However, the patrolling will be done up to the “agreed perceived LAC”.
Sources said both countries have various perceptions of the LAC. However, there is an informal agreement between both sides on what the LAC would be. “The patrolling will happen on ‘agreed perceived LAC’ and would end about 200 to 300 metres short of it,” a source said.
“Over the last several weeks, Indian and Chinese diplomatic and military negotiators have been in close contact with each other in a variety of forums… as a result of these discussions, agreement has been arrived on patrolling arrangement along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) on the India-China border leading to disengagement and resolution of the issues that had risen in these areas in 2020. And, we will be taking the next step on this,” Foreign Secretary Vikram Misri told reporters.
Asked again, he said, “We have reached an agreement on issues that were being discussed.” Misri was briefing the media ahead of Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s visit to the BRICS meet in Russia.
Defence Minister Rajnath Singh said on 11 October that the Government of India was “cautiously optimistic” about resolution of border tensions with China.
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New Delhi: India and China have agreed to resume patrolling to the “agreed perceived Line of Actual Control,” including in Depsang Plains and Demchok, though there is unlikely to be any immediate thinning down of troops other than those pulled back in the winter as is the norm, ThePrint has learnt.
Sources in the defence and security establishment told ThePrint that resumption of patrolling along the perceived LAC is the first step to full-scale disengagement. They added that there would be a reduction of troops in the winter, as has been the practice over the last four years, and during this time both countries would continue to discuss complete disengagement.
The decisions would also set the stage for a possible meeting between Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Chinese President Xi Jinping on the sidelines of the BRICS meet in Russia’s Kazan later this week.
“The overall decision on proper disengagement and de-escalation will be based on decisions taken in what is expected to be a bilateral (meeting) between Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Chinese President Xi Jinping. But this is the first step towards further normalcy,” a source said.
Explaining modalities that have been worked out, sources said the main issue related to Depsang Plains has been resolved. Chinese troops will pull back to their earlier positions and not block Indian troops from the bottleneck area as they have been doing since 2020, it is learnt. A few years before 2020, the Chinese were stopping Indian troops from an area called the “Y junction”, which was ahead of the bottleneck.
Asked about Demchok, sources said the MEA announced resumption of patrolling in all areas.
It was not immediately known if Indian troops will now patrol Charding La pass as was done before 2020.
Sources also said a tent erected by the Chinese after the standoff in 2020 had been removed.
In all other locations, where disengagement was achieved earlier and buffer zones were created–Northern banks of Pangong Tso, Galwan, Hot Springs and Gogra–patrolling would be resumed by both sides.
However, the patrolling will be done up to the “agreed perceived LAC”.
Sources said both countries have various perceptions of the LAC. However, there is an informal agreement between both sides on what the LAC would be. “The patrolling will happen on ‘agreed perceived LAC’ and would end about 200 to 300 metres short of it,” a source said.
Diplomats, Army officers negotiated at different forums
Four and a half years after tensions erupted along the border in May 2020, India Monday said it has reached an agreement with China for disengagement and resumption of patrolling.“Over the last several weeks, Indian and Chinese diplomatic and military negotiators have been in close contact with each other in a variety of forums… as a result of these discussions, agreement has been arrived on patrolling arrangement along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) on the India-China border leading to disengagement and resolution of the issues that had risen in these areas in 2020. And, we will be taking the next step on this,” Foreign Secretary Vikram Misri told reporters.
Asked again, he said, “We have reached an agreement on issues that were being discussed.” Misri was briefing the media ahead of Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s visit to the BRICS meet in Russia.
Defence Minister Rajnath Singh said on 11 October that the Government of India was “cautiously optimistic” about resolution of border tensions with China.
Depsang 'resolved', patrolling to 'agreed perceived LAC'. What India & China have agreed on
Immediate withdrawal of troops deployed along LAC unlikely, it is learnt. Thaw in ties could also set stage for Modi-Xi meet on sidelines of BRICS summit in Russia later this week.
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Agreement is to disengage to pre 2020 positions for the areas where patrols from both Indian and Chinese forces rarely clash, but there are areas where both India and China has taken firm positions here for now there is no agreement but if disengagement happens in non clash regions that will be first step and after honouring the deal only next steps could be taken.
This could mean there is going to be Modi and Xi meet and some trilateral understanding between India Russia China on west.
This could mean there is going to be Modi and Xi meet and some trilateral understanding between India Russia China on west.
agidest
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The opposite. Based on what is reported, India and China will commence patrolling up to their claim points which means patrols will cross each other and into what they consider their territories. This means India will patrol areas that were inaccessible earlier, and vice-versa for China.
If true, this is significant.
The opposite happened. India had not militarised its border with China before Galwan. Now the entire Indian military is re-orienting for a clash with China, military infrastructure has been and will continue to be built for a clash with China. You ended up shooting your foot.
This deal gives wings to the fact that China would like de-escalation.
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DDG-80
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Guys, the Indian Army’s back to patrolling Depsang and Demchok, right up to where we see the LAC. The Chinese are feeling the heat now, especially after the U.S. deployed Tomahawk LACMs in Japan and NATO's beefing up. With the Himalayas front cooling down, China’s lucky they can shift focus to their eastern coast. If not, they'd be scrambling to handle a multi-front mess, and their wannabe superpower dreams would’ve been crushed hard. @Pingle @TumbaDepsang ‘resolved’, patrolling to ‘agreed perceived LAC’. What India & China have agreed on
New Delhi: India and China have agreed to resume patrolling to the “agreed perceived Line of Actual Control,” including in Depsang Plains and Demchok, though there is unlikely to be any immediate thinning down of troops other than those pulled back in the winter as is the norm, ThePrint has learnt.
Sources in the defence and security establishment told ThePrint that resumption of patrolling along the perceived LAC is the first step to full-scale disengagement. They added that there would be a reduction of troops in the winter, as has been the practice over the last four years, and during this time both countries would continue to discuss complete disengagement.
The decisions would also set the stage for a possible meeting between Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Chinese President Xi Jinping on the sidelines of the BRICS meet in Russia’s Kazan later this week.
“The overall decision on proper disengagement and de-escalation will be based on decisions taken in what is expected to be a bilateral (meeting) between Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Chinese President Xi Jinping. But this is the first step towards further normalcy,” a source said.
Explaining modalities that have been worked out, sources said the main issue related to Depsang Plains has been resolved. Chinese troops will pull back to their earlier positions and not block Indian troops from the bottleneck area as they have been doing since 2020, it is learnt. A few years before 2020, the Chinese were stopping Indian troops from an area called the “Y junction”, which was ahead of the bottleneck.
Asked about Demchok, sources said the MEA announced resumption of patrolling in all areas.
It was not immediately known if Indian troops will now patrol Charding La pass as was done before 2020.
Sources also said a tent erected by the Chinese after the standoff in 2020 had been removed.
In all other locations, where disengagement was achieved earlier and buffer zones were created–Northern banks of Pangong Tso, Galwan, Hot Springs and Gogra–patrolling would be resumed by both sides.
However, the patrolling will be done up to the “agreed perceived LAC”.
Sources said both countries have various perceptions of the LAC. However, there is an informal agreement between both sides on what the LAC would be. “The patrolling will happen on ‘agreed perceived LAC’ and would end about 200 to 300 metres short of it,” a source said.
Diplomats, Army officers negotiated at different forums
Four and a half years after tensions erupted along the border in May 2020, India Monday said it has reached an agreement with China for disengagement and resumption of patrolling.
“Over the last several weeks, Indian and Chinese diplomatic and military negotiators have been in close contact with each other in a variety of forums… as a result of these discussions, agreement has been arrived on patrolling arrangement along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) on the India-China border leading to disengagement and resolution of the issues that had risen in these areas in 2020. And, we will be taking the next step on this,” Foreign Secretary Vikram Misri told reporters.
Asked again, he said, “We have reached an agreement on issues that were being discussed.” Misri was briefing the media ahead of Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s visit to the BRICS meet in Russia.
Defence Minister Rajnath Singh said on 11 October that the Government of India was “cautiously optimistic” about resolution of border tensions with China.
Depsang 'resolved', patrolling to 'agreed perceived LAC'. What India & China have agreed on
Immediate withdrawal of troops deployed along LAC unlikely, it is learnt. Thaw in ties could also set stage for Modi-Xi meet on sidelines of BRICS summit in Russia later this week.
DDG-80
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This is a clear message to the Americans too. They were fueling the fire, hoping for a major conflict between India and China. Now with the disengagement happening, their plan just got stomped out.Depsang ‘resolved’, patrolling to ‘agreed perceived LAC’. What India & China have agreed on
New Delhi: India and China have agreed to resume patrolling to the “agreed perceived Line of Actual Control,” including in Depsang Plains and Demchok, though there is unlikely to be any immediate thinning down of troops other than those pulled back in the winter as is the norm, ThePrint has learnt.
Sources in the defence and security establishment told ThePrint that resumption of patrolling along the perceived LAC is the first step to full-scale disengagement. They added that there would be a reduction of troops in the winter, as has been the practice over the last four years, and during this time both countries would continue to discuss complete disengagement.
The decisions would also set the stage for a possible meeting between Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Chinese President Xi Jinping on the sidelines of the BRICS meet in Russia’s Kazan later this week.
“The overall decision on proper disengagement and de-escalation will be based on decisions taken in what is expected to be a bilateral (meeting) between Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Chinese President Xi Jinping. But this is the first step towards further normalcy,” a source said.
Explaining modalities that have been worked out, sources said the main issue related to Depsang Plains has been resolved. Chinese troops will pull back to their earlier positions and not block Indian troops from the bottleneck area as they have been doing since 2020, it is learnt. A few years before 2020, the Chinese were stopping Indian troops from an area called the “Y junction”, which was ahead of the bottleneck.
Asked about Demchok, sources said the MEA announced resumption of patrolling in all areas.
It was not immediately known if Indian troops will now patrol Charding La pass as was done before 2020.
Sources also said a tent erected by the Chinese after the standoff in 2020 had been removed.
In all other locations, where disengagement was achieved earlier and buffer zones were created–Northern banks of Pangong Tso, Galwan, Hot Springs and Gogra–patrolling would be resumed by both sides.
However, the patrolling will be done up to the “agreed perceived LAC”.
Sources said both countries have various perceptions of the LAC. However, there is an informal agreement between both sides on what the LAC would be. “The patrolling will happen on ‘agreed perceived LAC’ and would end about 200 to 300 metres short of it,” a source said.
Diplomats, Army officers negotiated at different forums
Four and a half years after tensions erupted along the border in May 2020, India Monday said it has reached an agreement with China for disengagement and resumption of patrolling.
“Over the last several weeks, Indian and Chinese diplomatic and military negotiators have been in close contact with each other in a variety of forums… as a result of these discussions, agreement has been arrived on patrolling arrangement along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) on the India-China border leading to disengagement and resolution of the issues that had risen in these areas in 2020. And, we will be taking the next step on this,” Foreign Secretary Vikram Misri told reporters.
Asked again, he said, “We have reached an agreement on issues that were being discussed.” Misri was briefing the media ahead of Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s visit to the BRICS meet in Russia.
Defence Minister Rajnath Singh said on 11 October that the Government of India was “cautiously optimistic” about resolution of border tensions with China.
Depsang 'resolved', patrolling to 'agreed perceived LAC'. What India & China have agreed on
Immediate withdrawal of troops deployed along LAC unlikely, it is learnt. Thaw in ties could also set stage for Modi-Xi meet on sidelines of BRICS summit in Russia later this week.
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So is it true or not? The last time such an agreement was announced by India, we later learnt that India had pulled back further into their own controlled territory while China was patrolling the newly liberated areas from india.
At the time most Indians were saying it's the "perception" of who controls what. But the fact was that China had acquired 2,000 sq km of area which they did not control previously.
China had not militarised the LAC prior to 2018 either. Now they appear to have a lot more military infrastructure in place and readiness compared to India.
DDG-80
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The way these trolls are coping shows just how deep their inferiority complex runs. LMAO. The Indian Army is back patrolling right up to its perceived LAC in Depsang, Demchok, and every other sector. Keep coping!
Michael
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Currently, Chinese official agencies have not officially announced this news. Since it is a message released by Indian official agencies, we can believe in its authenticity. However, regarding the specific content of the message, we need to wait for official news from China. We know that often the details released by different parties about some sensitive information may not be entirely consistent.
This is what keeps them happy. You or I can't change that.
DDG-80
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LMAO, now I gotta explain the Himalayan border to a Bangladeshi? If you're so curious about what the "perceived LAC" is, let me break it down for you: On paper, India's LAC claim is 18 km east of the Y Junction, in an area that’s been under PLA control since 1962. Indian troops only patrolled up to 8 km on foot patrols east of Y junction—there were no permanent posts in areas like Raki Nala, PP10, 11, 12, or 13. The Chinese also used to patrol the Burtse area, which they claim based on the 1959 claim line. Now, things weren’t static—patrols from both sides used to overlap, creating tensions. With this new disengagement deal, both sides have agreed to respect their perceived LAC, which will reduce face-offs and help stabilize the region for now.Wait a minute, you were telling all of us China never occupied any territory. Now you are saying China will allow india to patrol India’s own territoryyou are not that smart are
India is indeed winning a war in south Asia. Economic war. I care for none other. And no one else matters in south asia, for that matters. So what Indians are saying is this, "enjoy, you need all of it".
agidest
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No one can give you binary answers. Broadly the news is true as it has been officially released. How/Mechanism of implementation on ground remains to be seen.
You are misinformed. Yes it had. It has been building dual use infrastructure (primarily for military purposes) for a while now. They augmented and then initiated the Galwan conflict precisely because they had invested earlier and had an advantage.
India was left catching up. We started our major building after Galwan. It will be complete over the next 5-8 years.
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