PAF J-10CE News, Updates and Discussion

[Deino]

Numbers suggest it was produced in December 2023.

Interesting, but care to explain from what you deduct this?

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Interesting, but care to explain from what you deduct this?

The different parts numbers in the first and the third photograph start with "1223" (12-2023?).

Just speculation.

The main number that needs interpreting is "J10CE9001".

 

[Deino]

The different parts numbers in the first and the third photograph start with "1223" (12-2023?).

Just speculation.

The main number that needs interpreting is "J10CE9001".

Great idea … I will check this with other images of other older aircraft

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

A J-10CE jet from the 9th batch was spotted during the Zhuhai Air Show 2024. These new J-10Cs could be for the Pakistan Air Force, but they could also be delivered to Egypt or Algeria.

 

[TAC]

Great idea … I will check this with other images of other older aircraft

Yeah, comparison with same position numbers on existing PAF birds may give us a better understanding. I’ve been trying to do that but struggling to find enough close up / hi res pics.

 

[Awwad]

Numbers suggest it was produced in December 2023.

Lol no, Those numbers are not dates! They could be part IDs or some serial nos.
Otherwise with the same logic, below aircraft is produced in 22nd month of 2022.





But it's definitely is J-10CE ( for export customer)

 

[Deino]

Also new ... the J-10CE cn. 9001 revealed yesterday is not yet wearing any customer's markings - even if IMO the PAF is most likely - but only AVIC markings, but it shows a new twin-launcher for PL-12 AAMs under the centerline station.

(Image via @WenJian0922 on Twitter)

 

[Oscar]

Also new ... the J-10CE cn. 9001 revealed yesterday is not yet wearing any customer's markings - even if IMO the PAF is most likely - but only AVIC markings, but it shows a new twin-launcher for PL-12 AAMs under the centerline station.

(Image via @WenJian0922 on Twitter)

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Only PAF has that two tone with the grey across the rib and wings - it’s signature PAF camo.

The twin PL-12 launcher may not be a PAF ask and more of an export option display which means theoretically with PL-15s the load out could be either
4 x PL-15
2 x PL-12s
2 x PL-10s
Which is a fairly heavy loadout
Or a maximum load of 8 x PL-12s and 2x PL-10s
Although if both inner and mid hardpoints can take twin launchers then its 10 AAMs

Is there any report of a twin PL-15 launcher? That would be a very heavy pylon

 

[guangdongt]

Also new ... the J-10CE cn. 9001 revealed yesterday is not yet wearing any customer's markings - even if IMO the PAF is most likely - but only AVIC markings, but it shows a new twin-launcher for PL-12 AAMs under the centerline station.

(Image via @WenJian0922 on Twitter)

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Oh my god, j10ce has actually developed a belly mounted double rack. I'm curious which customer needs so many missiles. I guess this is what the customer needs

 

[Princeps]

Also new ... the J-10CE cn. 9001 revealed yesterday is not yet wearing any customer's markings - even if IMO the PAF is most likely - but only AVIC markings, but it shows a new twin-launcher for PL-12 AAMs under the centerline station.

(Image via @WenJian0922 on Twitter)

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Is it possible that this is just a repainted existing PLAAF J-10C for display purposes? And they painted it in PAF colors as that's the only Export reference they have.
One way to tell would be the datalink antennas, I remember there being a difference between PAF and PLAAF.

 

[Yasser76]

Is it possible that this is just a repainted existing PLAAF J-10C for display purposes? And they painted it in PAF colors as that's the only Export reference they have.
One way to tell would be the datalink antennas, I remember there being a difference between PAF and PLAAF.

A lot of effort to take off Pak flag but Avic logo on then take it off and replace Pak flag (in my opinion).

Oscar is also right, the body Camo is classic PAF that was originally on our F-16s in the 80s and after testing was pretty much put on almost all the fleet bar strike Mirages.

Also the lack of any Arabic numerals indicates it may not for for EAF (These are often painted on at factory not in house)

 

[Fatman17]

It was reported (November 2024) that PAF ordered a new batch of J-10CE. They are believed to be under construction at GAIC (09 batch).

J-10CE _ 9001

 

[Yasser76]

One thing that can help lose weight and improve performance is getting rid of the
GSh-23 23mm cannon. Thing is 80 year old design and weighs in at 50kg.

 

[huanghong]

Oh my god, j10ce has actually developed a belly mounted double rack. I'm curious which customer needs so many missiles. I guess this is what the customer needs

The belly mounted double rack have existed for a long time, but they were used to carry bombs.

 

[huanghong]

j-10c Triple weapon mount