Russia-Ukraine War - News, Discussions & Updates
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F-22Raptor
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No, Russia has strategically lost this war. Ukraine will now be western aligned for generations.
NATO troops will be deployed to ensure peace, and Ukraine will continue to receive weapons shipments.
Crimea and the Donetsk region were already controlled by the Russians since 2014. Russia has gained about 10% of Ukraine territory since 2022, at the cost of 700,000 dead and wounded, near 20,000 equipment losses, and most importantly the loss of Ukraine as an ally state. Not to mention NATO has expanded further.
That’s a strategic defeat for Russia no matter how you slice it.
F-22Raptor
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There’s almost no chance the dollar gets replaced as reserve currency and US GDP will reach $50T by 2040.
It will be another American century.
F-22Raptor
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Ukraine was a Russian puppet state up until Yanukovych got overthrown.
Thats why Putin invaded Ukraine, because he realized he was losing Ukraine to the West. He attempted to overthrow Zelensky, install a Russian puppet, and militarily control Ukraine.
Putin failed miserably, but he couldn’t admit defeat to his people which is why he doubled down in eastern Ukraine and we’re at a stalemate today.
But most importantly, Russia has lost Ukraine as an ally state to the West.
Thats a strategic defeat for Russia
TopGun786
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You make yourself a clown by nonsense logic.
Dont try to force feed us lies.
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F-22Raptor
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I speak truth and facts. You don’t like that, thereby you personally attack me. You lost the debate.
TopGun786
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There will be no USA even by then, let alone dollar.
UKBengali
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Most of the lost equipment(T-72/T-80/S-300) was obsolette or would need to be replaced anyway. In essence it cost them nothing to lose them in war.
Yes Russia lost some modern stuff like T-90Ms and components of S-400 batteries but they will soon replace these as the quantities lost were not that great.
Russian Navy and Airforce is intact and they are now the most battle-hardened major power in the world.
Trump has vetoed Ukraine joining Nato while he is President and this proposed deal says nothing about even a partnership with Nato, let alone joining.
Russia economy is growing quicker than Europe and even US - 3.6% in 2023 and 3.6% projected for this year. That is a major reason Biden got trounced last month as US voters were angry at getting poorer during his time in office.
You can spin it whatever way you want but Russia/Putin got all they wanted and more here. If only Zelensky accepted Putin's offer in April 2022, then he would have only lost Crimea and Donbas.
TopGun786
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"Strategic defeat" number 194.
KingQamaR
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Let’s start off every day with Toothless F-22 Raptor Kiev reports. Digest the. Propaganda BS first thing. Then we go find the truth afterwards.
KingQamaR
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There’s no way Russia will negotiate their full surrender as Zelenskyy suggests. That clown should also realise there’s no way the West ( Americans, English , french , Germans etc) will trade their own cities to protect any inch of Ukraine ( Nato Membership). He may think he’s being cute but he’s just destroying his country for nothing.
KingQamaR
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Your American analysis is not firmly based in reality. It looks to me you believe that Ukrainians do (or did) have a decent chance of prevailing in this tragic conflict. Unfortunately, they never had much chance. Minsk 1 and 2 and Istambul negotiations were Ukraine's best chances to achieve less bad outcome. Important note: they never had any chance of gaining back Crimea. With the help of their Werstern masters, Kiev completely ignored physical limitations to their own powers and chose the escalation of the war. After three years of going the wrong way, Ukraine is not changing her approach while her chances of winning are keep on decreasing. At this point, it is hard to even name a miracle which would change the current nearly catastrophic situation.
F-22Raptor
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The Russian Army is so depleted it’s using civilian vehicles, ATVs, and motorcycles to conduct assaults. The Russian Army has been shredded and will take them many years to replace that armor.
The Russian Navy performance has been so terrible the Black Sea Fleet won’t even conduct operations in the Western Black Sea. Its Air Force has been unable to gain air superiority against a small Soviet air fleet.
Russian military performance has been atrocious to say the least. The US military would absolutely crush them.
Ukraine doesn’t need to join NATO at the moment. It’s already exists as an anti-Russian Western aligned state. I expect NATO troops to be deployed post war in Ukraine and weapon shipments will continue.
Russian growth is only that high due to high defense spending which is then destroyed in Ukraine. Spending is so high it’s had to raise interest rates to 21%. Clearly not sustainable and the likelihood of a major recession is high for the Russian economy post war.
The US is a $29T economy, Russia $2T. The US is growing near 3%. Go ahead and tell me who’s truly growing faster, a $29T economy growing 3% or $2T economy growing 3.5%?
Putin hasn’t gotten anywhere near what he wanted. He wanted Zelensky overthrown, a Russian puppet installed, and military control over the entirety of Ukraine. He failed miserably.
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