Deals for 26 Rafale-M jets, three Scorpene submarines to be signed by next month: Navy Chief

[ST1976]

sure Su57 is faster can fly higher and more agile than rafale but then rafale has still something that niether super sukhoi or su57 or LCA can bring to war and thats what this expensive frenchie brings

its like even though Russian Vodka is more potent and gives you better time with women you still like to flaunt your prestige with a bottle of pink champane

I like LCA mk1. its mainly to be used in place of Mig21s, for the operations/needs within Indian territory.
LCA mk1 is proved to be more useful than MIrage2000h and could be able to match with Mirage2000-5 version also
its as good as Mirage/Rafale for Air Superiority operations and can be used for operations in outer territory also, in tough time

 

[Barcid]

It‘s really funny how much wrong can be in such a short reply!

First, to take back Taiwan depends not on the quality or not of a certain Chinese fighter but solely on the political will to do it now …. And at the moment there is no need to take it now! That you funny fan-boys try to interpret this as a lack of faith in these systems makes it only more ironic.

Second, China has no will to take Laddackh, as long as they can keep you busy in this area, urge you to invest and even more to humiliate you repeatedly at low own cost, it is already a win!

And finally, You cannot „buy F35 or su57 in short timeframes“, first since the F-35 is connected to high costs and the need to get rid of at least the most important Russian systems and to rejoin the Su-57 program would be only another embarrassment even more so since neither the US would nor Russia could deliver „soon“.

But again, keep on dreaming you fan-boys‘ wet-dreams and feel fine!

Its clear who is the fanboy here

1. If taiwan is ever to be taken, it can only be taken via war, and the chinese fanboy thinks that the fighter quality has no bearing on such a war. Chinese logic

2. Everyone knows who has to spend more in laddakh. With a smaller army than india, china is forced to match us in soldier numbers, and station them 3000 kilometres away from the main Chinese theatre of pacific ocean, not to mention having to create specialized equipment for that area. After losing 40 soldiers in galwan in 2020, chinese wimps are too afraid to do anything.

3. As for buying su57 or f35, there are ways to buy these off shelf, without having to join either program. F35 have started deliveries in 4 years of contract signing for other countries, which is a reasonable timeframe for such agreements.

Chinese logic can take you only so far

 

[iblini]

Its clear who is the fanboy here

1. If taiwan is ever to be taken, it can only be taken via war, and the chinese fanboy thinks that the fighter quality has no bearing on such a war. Chinese logic

2. Everyone knows who has to spend more in laddakh. With a smaller army than india, china is forced to match us in soldier numbers, and station them 3000 kilometres away from the main Chinese theatre of pacific ocean, not to mention having to create specialized equipment for that area. After losing 40 soldiers in galwan in 2020, chinese wimps are too afraid to do anything.

3. As for buying su57 or f35, there are ways to buy these off shelf, without having to join either program. F35 have started deliveries in 4 years of contract signing for other countries, which is a reasonable timeframe for such agreements.

Chinese logic can take you only so far

Jai Hind.

 

[onlinpunit]

Jai Hind.

Mao mao

 

[iblini]

Mao mao

You love furry too?

 

[Sharma Ji]

i paid fee for six months....

i was banned but then i paid fee and could back again

good boy

 

[harpy1]

For those posters talking about getting ripped off.... Listen to yourselves

Firstly it's too costly waste of money then you say it's a long wait list too many orders already

So what gives here

Is it shit...why so many orders from the richest nations on earth

 

[harpy1]

French equipment works and good systems cost huge sums of money

Chinese systems cheap but break down

Russian systems high maintenance

USA too much red tape and strings sanctions etc

France expensive but no loose ends X

Good choice from poor options

 

[ST1976]

French equipment works and good systems cost huge sums of money

Chinese systems cheap but break down

Russian systems high maintenance

USA too much red tape and strings sanctions etc

France expensive but no loose ends X

Good choice from poor options

i would be agreed with this.....

26 Rafale-M Naval version would be acceptable to an extent

 

[iblini]

French equipment works and good systems cost huge sums of money

Chinese systems cheap but break down

Russian systems high maintenance

USA too much red tape and strings sanctions etc

France expensive but no loose ends X

Good choice from poor options

What about Indian systems?

 

[AjayGhatak]

Second, China has no will to take Laddackh, as long as they can keep you busy in this area, urge you to invest and even more to humiliate you repeatedly at low own cost, it is already a win!

I do know this is Pakistan defence forum but, really what does China gain from that drama? What is a "win" here? What objective do they achieve?

Unless you believe that Chinese are somehow sadists.

And India's continuous economic growth while China's faltering economic growth makes it even more perplexing. Why make a complete mortal enemy out of a rising regional power next door? For what purpose?

I doubt it is anything like what you are gleefully implying.

 

[AjayGhatak]

Its clear who is the fanboy here

1. If taiwan is ever to be taken, it can only be taken via war, and the chinese fanboy thinks that the fighter quality has no bearing on such a war. Chinese logic

2. Everyone knows who has to spend more in laddakh. With a smaller army than india, china is forced to match us in soldier numbers, and station them 3000 kilometres away from the main Chinese theatre of pacific ocean, not to mention having to create specialized equipment for that area. After losing 40 soldiers in galwan in 2020, chinese wimps are too afraid to do anything.

3. As for buying su57 or f35, there are ways to buy these off shelf, without having to join either program. F35 have started deliveries in 4 years of contract signing for other countries, which is a reasonable timeframe for such agreements.

Chinese logic can take you only so far

Its not really Chinese logic at work here. It is a fanboy logic. Especially a fanboy who makes money by selling Chinese worship since 2007 or so. You should look into Mr. Deino's career. All he does these days is writing utterly stupid books on China and selling it on Amazon.

He has no real diplomatic experience. He does not even have a pilot's license and he sells books on Chinese Aviation billing himself as some kind of expert.

In reality, he is a failed Chemistry teacher turned into some kind of "X"-pert.

 

[liuzhengdong]

Its clear who is the fanboy here

1. If taiwan is ever to be taken, it can only be taken via war, and the chinese fanboy thinks that the fighter quality has no bearing on such a war. Chinese logic

2. Everyone knows who has to spend more in laddakh. With a smaller army than india, china is forced to match us in soldier numbers, and station them 3000 kilometres away from the main Chinese theatre of pacific ocean, not to mention having to create specialized equipment for that area. After losing 40 soldiers in galwan in 2020, chinese wimps are too afraid to do anything.

3. As for buying su57 or f35, there are ways to buy these off shelf, without having to join either program. F35 have started deliveries in 4 years of contract signing for other countries, which is a reasonable timeframe for such agreements.

Chinese logic can take you only so far

In the 2020 Battle of Kalwan, hundreds of Indian soldiers were captured by the Chinese army. Hundreds of Indian soldiers were defeated by less than 100 Chinese soldiers. Indians have always liked to describe failure as victory，Indians like to kneel before Chinese soldiers.

 

[Yasser76]

Chinese don’t trust their equipment enough to take back Taiwan, forget taking back laddakh.

We can always buy F35 or su57 in short timeframes if the requirement really arises

No, they are focused on not starting Wars, India can learn well from them....

 

[Yasser76]

USAF will obviously take it seriously.... they have a habit of showing a scare crow to squeeze more funds.....

No matter what you say I will never trust any Chinese 5th generation against western fighters like Rafale or Typhoons or even F16Vs.....

Imagine if India was Chinese ally and buying J10 and Pakistan fielding western fighters all we would have heard how India buying Chinese junk.....

Just because they're your supplier doesn't make their products are invincible.... if it was the case by now China would have captured Arunachal Pradesh or ladakh.....

And my argument is not even about what are you buying.... it was just to wake up that poster from his lalala dreamland..... not a single J31 in service.... we don't even know how will be the geopolitics in next 5 years and he is already on high blood pressure and feeling bad for India..... let that psudeco Chinese 5th generation join we will discuss then..... this thread is about Indian naval procurement.....

You contradict yourself so many times you end up essentially making my point making your previous points pointless. You state J-35 is not in service (correctly) and also claim you somehow know it is junk. You see why people need to explain how to post on the internet to you?