Syrian Civil War and The future of Syria after liberation

Red lines​

Assad was backed by those Syrians who believed he was saving them from hardline Sunnis.

As al Qaeda-inspired insurgent groups gained prominence, this fear resonated among minorities. Rebel forces sought to assure Christians, Alawites and other minorities they would be protected as they advanced this week.

Assad clung to the idea of Syria as a bastion of secular Arab nationalism even as the conflict appeared ever more sectarian. Speaking to Foreign Affairs in 2015, he said Syria’s army was “made up of every colour of Syrian society”.

But to his opponents, he was fuelling sectarianism.

The conflict’s sectarian edge was hardened by the arrival of Iranian-backed Shi’ite fighters from across the Middle East to support Assad, and as Sunni Muslim-led states including Turkey and Qatar backed the rebels.

Assad’s value to Iran was underscored by a senior Iranian official who declared in 2015 that his fate was a “red line” for Tehran.

While Iran stood by Assad, the United States failed to enforce its own “red line” — set by President Barack Obama in 2012 against the use of chemical weapons.

UN-backed investigations have concluded Damascus used chemical weapons.

A sarin gas attack on the rebel-held Ghouta in 2013 killed hundreds, but Moscow brokered a deal for Syria’s chemical weapons to be destroyed, averting a US response. Still, poison gas continued to hit rebel areas, with a 2017 sarin attack prompting Trump to order a cruise missile response.

Assad has denied accusations the state was to blame.

He similarly denied the army had dropped barrel bombs packed with explosives that caused indiscriminate destruction. He appeared to make light of the accusation in a BBC interview in 2015, saying: “I haven’t heard of the army using barrels, or maybe, cooking pots.”

He also dismissed tens of thousands of photos showing torture of people in government custody as being part of a Qatar-funded plot.

As fighting died down, Assad accused Syria’s enemies of economic warfare.

But while he remained a pariah to the West, some Arab states that once backed his opponents began opening doors to him. A beaming Assad was greeted by leaders of the United Arab Emirates during a visit there in 2022.
 
It has been lost for a while now. Why put the burden on the new Syrian setup?

Right now the priority should be:

- stop and bring SDF controlled area under full Syrian control

- form a government

- rebuild the country


No the Syrian part of the Golan has now been lost. Zionists never controlled it till now and they have been eyeing this bit for decades.

There will be no more Syrian government as the country will be split into multiple parts - we are likely to see 3-4 separately governed territories.
 
No the Syrian part of the Golan has now been lost. Zionists never controlled it till now and they have been eyeing this bit for decades.

There will be no more Syrian government as the country will be split into multiple parts - we are likely to see 3-4 separately governed territories.
Let’s not jump to conclusions. A country is its people, give them time to chart their course.
 
What is it with many of you British Pakistanis and nonsense statements in relations to affairs in the Arab world? You are most likely completely clueless about the history of Syria, the nature of Syrians. In fact I doubt that you can even count to 10 in Arabic, yet you have the audacity and gut to label the majority of Syrians (basically Syrian Sunni Arabs) as AQ and ISIS. Not even the propaganda outlets of the Iranian Mullah regime (state-controlled televisions) went with that storyline - instead opposition and rebels were used apparently as per Twitter.

So, after killing 200,000 Palestinians you guys are now proclaiming yourselves to be genuine Arabs. In Turkey you pretended to be Turks, in Germany you were Germans, in America you’re Americans. Pretend to blend in and take over the country, eh.

Now I’m sure you would love to become the rulers of the Arab world. But after killing 200,000 people no one will accept you any more. You have to leave the region. Forget about being Arab you’re not even from this region. You’re Kazars from Ukraine who converted to Judaism.
 
The remaining 20% of the Golan Heights has just been occupied by the Zionists.



Israeli forces have seized a UN-patrolled buffer zone in south-west Syria, hours after Syrian rebel forces toppled the Assad regime.

Benjamin Netanyahu said on Sunday he had ordered the Israeli military to take the demilitarised zone that abuts Israeli-occupied Golan Heights hours, saying a 1974 disengagement with Syria “has collapsed”.

“We will not allow any hostile force to establish itself on our border,” the Israeli prime minister said after referring to the ousting of Iran-allied Bashar al-Assad as a “historic day”.
 
So, after killing 200,000 Palestinians you guys are now proclaiming yourselves to be genuine Arabs. In Turkey you pretended to be Turks, in Germany you were Germans, in America you’re Americans. Pretend to blend in and take over the country, eh.

Now I’m sure you would love to become the rulers of the Arab world. But after killing 200,000 people no one will accept you any more. You have to leave the region. Forget about being Arab you’re not even from this region. You’re Kazars from Ukraine who converted to Judaism.

Did you forget to take your medicine? What are you even blabbering about?
 

Syrians who fled countr celebrate in UK and beyond as Assad regime is toppled​



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In pictures: The fall of Syria's Assad regime​

From CNN's photo team

The long rule of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is over after rebels swept into the capital Damascus. The fighters declared the city “liberated” in a statement carried on state television. Syrians have been celebrating in the streets.

The removal of Assad brings an end to more than 50 years of his family’s autocratic rule of the nation of about 23 million, which has been fractured by more than a decade of civil war.

Opposition fighters burn a military court in Damascus, Syria, on December 8.


Opposition fighters burn a military court in Damascus, Syria, on December 8.


An anti-government fighter stands guard over detained pro-government soldiers outside the central city of Homs, Syria, on December 8.


An anti-government fighter stands guard over detained pro-government soldiers outside the central city of Homs, Syria, on December 8.

An aerial picture shows smoke rising from the site of an airstrike that targeted Syria's rebel-held northern city of Idlib on December 2.


An aerial picture shows smoke rising from the site of an airstrike that targeted Syria's rebel-held northern city of Idlib on December 2.

Anti-government fighters ride military vehicles as they drive along a road in the eastern part of Aleppo province on December 1.


Anti-government fighters ride military vehicles as they drive along a road in the eastern part of Aleppo province on December 1.
 
Whose talking about fighting now or even in the months to come?

The whole of the Golan Heights has now been lost and the Zionists can place artillery on the east face of Mount Hermon and shell Damascus from there.

Syrian Army have proven to be very useless. It is one thing to say, we are not fighting for Assad anymore, but quite another to abandon posts and lost even more terrority to Israel. Shocking, Shameful of the "Syrian Army"..
 
Over 13 years of war , just to collapse in a week insane?

  1. Russia can't support Assad like it did for 10+years, Russia have enpugh problems with Ukraine
  2. Iran is weak and focused on Isreal at the moment
  3. Hamas attack one year ago made possible for Isreal to attack and weaken not only Hamas but also their ally Hezbollah in Lebanon.
  4. Hezbollah is to weak, has basically no command chain left to coordinate any kind of help for Assad regime.
  5. Basically Assad is for the first time in
    13+ years: almost alone, with weak allies and against Rebels trained by Turkey, Kurdish troops supported by the Usa with only a weak and demotivated army to defend him and his regime
Well, given that if Iran didn't help Assad 13 years ago in 2011, they probably would have folded back then.

The thing is, Assad should have build up his army from 2011 onward and not depends on Iran and Russia for the bulk of the fight, once Russia is bogged down on Ukraine, and Iran shifted their focus on Israel and Hezbollah been beating to a bloody pulp, who is going to fight for Assad?

There is a reason why HTS chosen that day (1 or 2 days after the Israel/Hezbollah ceasefire talk) to attack, and there is a reason why bulk of Assad force don't fight and just ditched their uniform, it's virtually another copy of how Ghani depends on US Air Force and NATO force to fight his war for him, and once the American is gone, they got routed. This is the same case for Assad.
 
Syrian Army have proven to be very useless. It is one thing to say, we are not fighting for Assad anymore, but quite another to abandon posts and lost even more terrority to Israel. Shocking, Shameful of the "Syrian Army"..


So it seems right now:

1. Whole of Golan - Zionist entity.

2. East - Kurds who will probably form a 'state" with Iraqi Kurds. They will be backed up Zio-US and so untouchable for anyone in the region and will be the richest due to oil stealing Iraqi and Syria oil in conjunction with the Zio-US.

3. Rump Syria that could be a combination of Turkics and HTS controlling Damascus, Aleppo and the other major cities through the centre of the country. Backed by Turkey.

*4 - This one is a wildcard but we could have a Russian backed Alawite state in the west coast. Russia's air and naval bases will be here and Russia would potentially reinforce this area with more troops(brigade's worth with heavy armour) and aircraft to make sure that HTS don't get any funny ideas in the future.
 
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Yeah,you're right. But then again...I thought Russia was stronger than it is.
Talk to another fellow analyst, this shows how Russia hollowed out their force oversea to feed the war in Ukraine, read an intelligence report that most Russian "unit" in Syria is nothing but a Headquarter so you are talking about a company size of 200 instead it's just around 20-30 men staying there and puting up the image. You can literally count how many sorties the Russian did this time and how many troop they moved, they don't have a 40 mile convoy in Syria, if they had, they would have used it.

That would most likely send a chilling effect to Russian Allies in Africa, remember that Jihad group in Mali mulled that Wagner Group? No group will travel with a few MRAP in hot zone, they are doing that because they don't have enough men or equipment to run supply and they get ambushed. That should show as how Russian force deteriorated overseas and Russian Allies, including Assad, should have realise something. But meh, this is what you get when you have your own war to deal with. I mean if the Russian progress in Ukraine weren't good at all, how do you think Russian force outside Operational Domain fared??
 
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