Syrian Civil War and The future of Syria after liberation

New interim PM calls on Syrians refugees around the world to 'come back'​


BBC

Syria's new interim Prime Minister, Mohamed al-Bashir, has called on Syrians who fled the Assad regime and are seeking asylum across the globe to "come back".

In an interview with the Italian daily newspaper Corriere della Sera, external, al-Bashir says his Hayat Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) government is "inheriting a bloated administration plagued by corruption" and insists he will only remain in office until March 2025

He says Syria's finances are in a "very bad state" with no foreign reserves, but the transition PM says one of his top priorities is to restore security and stability in Syria.

Al-Bashir's second objectives include attempts to bring back millions of Syrian refugees who are seeking asylum around the world. "Come back," he tells the Italian newspaper. "We need to rebuild, to get our country on its feet again and we need everyone's help."

Another priority for al-Bashir is to tackle the "precariousness" of essential services in Syria such as electricity, food and water.

Graph showing where Syrian refugees have sought asylum
 
The situation looks bad, Turkish SNA is fighting SDF for control of North Syria, SDF is Usa backed. We also have FSA who is backed by USA, they also control alot of territory. The HTS seems to be backed by Saudi Arabia, they will look after Arab interests, SNA Turkish interests and SDF Usa and Kurdish interests, FSA wants to install pro Usa government like in Jordan.
It seems it is easier to understand quantum mechanics than the new Syrian politics. How will they even figure out who is the friendly and who is the adversary? They may have to institute the ancient system of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shibboleth
 
Syria / Lebanon are new Gaza and West Bank from Israel's point of view
They are operating rouge with their own agenda

  • Airforce bombing unprotected citizens
  • Tanks coming in and out when they wish

I view the removal of Syrian airforce and air defenses and navy as a major escalation and risk to all Syrians \ Lebanese humans on ground


Remains to be seen how Syrian Refugees would react , but without Airforce and Air Defenses , it is a very risk thing to return back to Syria

Turkey has presented HTS in Syria as a positive thing for peace but we shall see soon how that claim unfolds

I still have not found good source material to read from Turkish sources on their views on matter as it is hard to find on internet
Search engines make it hard to see their view point
 
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Of course Chinese only care for Chinese.

That is what every nation does.

It is up to Muslims to use the “window” that may open up in as little as 10 years from now due to China to free ourselves from western hegemony.

Maybe there may end up a great Chinese-Muslim understanding if not outright alliance in this century.

However we as Muslims need to show we have something to bring to the table as well to China. Even within this rigged system, too many of us are laying back and expecting others to save us from our state.

Most Muslim countries are currently in a pitiful state - granted this is a lot of the fault of the west but some of the sectarian and illogical comments from Muslims here on pdf are illogical.

As long as Iran does not fall, then there is always hope for freedom and peace in the ME. Yes it has had the primary burden for decades but maybe others can also come into the fold within the next 1-2 decades and also assist.
I think there is already a tacit Chinese-Muslim alignment. It's not the future, it's already here.

Anyways, China and the Islamic world have historically had good relations.
 
It seems it is easier to understand quantum mechanics than the new Syrian politics. How will they even figure out who is the friendly and who is the adversary? They may have to institute the ancient system of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shibboleth
Syria will unfortunately probably be mired in chaos for the foreseeable future. I would be very surprised if it emerges as a united functioning country within a year from now.
 
Iran is useless, Iraq is a Shia majority state, with a Shia govt with a supposedly Pro Iran Prime Minister, and they still can't get the US to exit Iraq. lol, so much for "ReSiSTanCe", get rid of US bases that shoot down your own missiles and facilitate airstrikes on your own country first, and use Iraq for infiltration missions into Iran, launch Insurgent activities in Iranian Kurdistan, Drone Attacks, and all sorts of Stuff, all happening in a Shia Majority state with a Shia govt. Oh and did I mention A drone flying over Iraq killing Qassem Soulemani in Iraq, in Baghdad no less?
 
Congratulations to Israel

Same will happen in Lebanon in few days.

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Israel is already dropping hints that they plan to take the Druze village of As Suwayda. Much of modern NE Israel is historically Druze and the Druze have been the most loyal non-Jewish community to Israel. So if they take Syrian Druze land, those people would probably learn to serve Israel as Israel can guarantee their security and provide a higher standard of life.
 

Russian ships move from Syria base amid doubts over future​


Matt Murphy & Josh Cheetham
BBC Verify


Getty Images Russian submarines docked in Tartous in 2019. An armed soldier stands next to the vessels on a dock.


Tartous naval facility has been a key projection of Russian naval power in the region
Russian naval vessels appear to have temporarily left their main port in Syria, satellite images reviewed by BBC Verify show, amid continuing uncertainty about Moscow's military future in the country after the fall of its ally, Bashar al-Assad.

Images taken by Maxar on 10 December show some ships have left Tartous naval base since Sunday and are currently sitting offshore in the Mediterranean Sea.

Meanwhile, other photos taken on the same day show activity continuing at Russia's main airbase in Syria, Hmeimim, with jets clearly visible on the tarmac.

On Monday, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Moscow would enter talks with incoming authorities about Russia's future military presence.

"Everything possible is now being done to get in touch with those involved in ensuring security and, of course, our military is also taking all the necessary precautions," he told reporters in Moscow.

He previously warned that it was "premature" to speculate on the bases' future.

"You know that, of course, we maintain contacts with those who control the situation in Syria now. This is necessary because we have our bases there and our diplomatic office [embassy]. And of course, ensuring the safety and security of our facilities are of utmost importance," he told reporters.

The Tartous naval facility houses elements of the Black Sea Fleet and is Russia's only repair and replenishment hub in the Mediterranean. Established by the Soviet Union in the 1970s, it was expanded and modernised by Russia in 2012 as the Kremlin began to increase its support for President Assad's regime.

It allows Russian vessels to remain in the Mediterranean without having to return to ports in the Black Sea via the Turkish Straits. It is also a deep-water port, meaning it can host submarines from Moscow's nuclear fleet, according to the US Naval Institute.

The new satellite images show Moscow has at least temporarily brought its ships out of the port, with two guided missile frigates moored about 13km (eight miles) off the Syrian coast. It is unclear where the remainder of the fleet - pictured in earlier images - currently is.

It is also unclear whether their departure is part of a permanent withdrawal from Tartous. In recent weeks, satellite images have repeatedly shown naval vessels coming and going from the port.

Mike Plunkett from the open-source defence intelligence analysts at Janes organisation noted that the Russian movements appeared to have been "conducted to ensure that their ships are not vulnerable to attack".

"Whether they are worried about attack from the Syrian rebels or collateral damage from any Israeli strike on Syrian assets in Tartus is unknown," he added.
A map showing the location of one of the Russian vessels.


Frederik Van Lokeren, a former Belgian navy captain and analyst, told BBC Verify that it appeared the Russian vessels were now in a holding pattern while Moscow deliberated on its next move.

"They're effectively in limbo at the moment, because they don't quite know what's going to happen," Mr Van Lokeren said.

"Obviously, since they're lingering there, it seems that Russia is not willing to withdraw all its naval vessels out of the area just yet, which might be an indication that they're negotiating with regional partners to see where they can redeploy these vessels."

Analysts have speculated that if Russia is forced to close the Tartous naval facility, it could redeploy its presence to Tobruk in Libya. The region is controlled by the Kremlin-backed Field Marshal Khalifa Haftar and already hosts some Russian airbases.

But withdrawing from Tartous would be immensely costly, and Mr Van Lokeren noted that the move would also bring Russian vessels closer to Nato bases, making them easier to track. For now, he said, there is no indication that Russia is moving the necessary naval assets to remove equipment from Tartous.
 
Since 2015 the Hmeimim air base has become a key part of Russia's operations across the Middle East and Africa. It has been used to launch devastating air strikes on cities across Syria in support of the Assad regime, while also using it to fly military contractors to Africa.

Satellite images reviewed by BBC Verify showed at least two large jets - identified by Janes as IL-76 transport aircraft - still sitting on the tarmac at the base on 10 December. Helicopters could also be seen at the base in the images.

Janes also notes that air defence systems deployed at the site remain visible in the north-western corner of the image.

An image of Hmeimim airfield


Dara Massicot, an analyst at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, said on X on Sunday that an evacuation of the airbase would involve a massive airlift requiring far more jets than those visible in the satellite images, suggesting that Moscow does not plan to evacuate imminently.

"When Russian forces deployed to Syria in 2015, they flew almost 300 sorties in two weeks, and that was before base expansion," she wrote on X.

"A change signifying a major evacuation will be clear," she added.

Despite the current holding pattern Russian forces appear to be displaying, the fall of the Assad regime represents a major blow to the Kremlin's ambitions in the region. During a 2017 visit to Khmeimim air base, President Vladimir Putin made clear that he intended for Moscow's presence to be a long-term project.

Reflecting on the situation, an influential pro-Kremlin military blogger Rybar warned on Telegram that Russia's power-projection exercise in the region was in serious danger.

"Russia's military presence in the Middle East region is hanging by a thread," he concluded.
 
Israel is already dropping hints that they plan to take the Druze village of As Suwayda. Much of modern NE Israel is historically Druze and the Druze have been the most loyal non-Jewish community to Israel. So if they take Syrian Druze land, those people would probably learn to serve Israel as Israel can guarantee their security and provide a higher standard of life.


@Meengla

That is 70 kms from the Golan!

If that happens then the entity gains thousands of square kms of fertile land and either loyal or indifferent new population.

This could be the first strike to expand the Zionist entity since 1967.


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Israel is already dropping hints that they plan to take the Druze village of As Suwayda. Much of modern NE Israel is historically Druze and the Druze have been the most loyal non-Jewish community to Israel. So if they take Syrian Druze land, those people would probably learn to serve Israel as Israel can guarantee their security and provide a higher standard of life.

* and the oil n gas fields or pipelines access.

Israel really played the game brilliantly, marching into Syria using Turkey as its donkey.

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Their long plan and actions:

- Install Erdogan and push Turkey towards extreme foreign debts so the country becomes a client state. Turkey crossed 50% threshold of Anglo-Jew direct debt on its entire GDP so the country is effectively in the hands of those who feed it.

- Take hits from Iran but create a status quo in which both sides refused to escalate further, Iran proved a military point and left.

- Choke Weaken Assad through in-direct insurgencies from Turkey.

- With Assad gone they can now rule over South Syria as part of greater Israel, take its oils, riches anything. May even settle Jews their, who will stop them? Iran is gone from there.

- With the land route cut to Hezbollah now they can repeat this model in Lebanon, choke Hezbollah and may even annex land further of Sheba farms.

- No single opposition to Krish oil fields in Mediterranean as Hezbollah was armed by Iran with AShCM for this purpose. They cant fight anymore.
 

Syrian missile boats destroyed in Latakia port​

see change

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HTS of course celebrating their big win
  • It's interesting , country being destroyed and yet folks local not having clue what is happening
  • Fear of HTS or joy of freedom

They might even encircle Damascus and create a wall all around it calling it New Gaza 2 or West bank 2

I am really curious on Turkey's big gain from helping rebels but clearly it seem Israel has captured more land

Eygpt , still worried about the little border line with Israel

Turkey , happy to have helped HTS

Saudis , talking on social media showing HTS friendly syrians in saudia celebrating
 
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It seems it is easier to understand quantum mechanics than the new Syrian politics. How will they even figure out who is the friendly and who is the adversary? They may have to institute the ancient system of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shibboleth

Usa plan is to install a FSA/SDF lead government, they will control the army, intelligence agencies etc. HTS will get a say but over the years will loose power, SNA is Turkish supported and they will be part of government with alot of influence but I doubt Saudi Arabia/Usa will allow a pro Turkey Syria. Most likely it will be Jordan style Syria. Another possibility is FSA lead government with SDF autonomous region to keep Turkey in check.
 

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