Operation Marg Bar Sarmachar: Pakistan strikes Back

[RescueRanger]

Just a heads up ….PAF does not appreciate certain level of information being made public without their consent. We need to be careful about what we share on a public forum. This isn’t 2019 anymore ….

Woh sab theek hain but we can share what is in public domain?

 

[Peregrine]

Speak for yourself. Go live with your "Muslim brothers" and see how they treat you.

It took us over 40 years to realize that Afghans were enemies from the start. Arabs and Iranians as societies do not like us.

Gulf Arabs have already opened up to Israel.

Pakistan needs to learn.

There arent really any true independent minded muslim leaders in any muslim country existing today. So your argument apply as long as leadership of the countries you mentioned, truly represent the overall muslim sentiment in those countries. Which i think it dosent.

What muslims wants is not the same as what leadership wants. Sometimes there is a match, and sometimes it dont.

Ironically, if there was a complete democratic vote simultaneously in all muslim lands, free of any foreign interference. Likely, muslims would have voted to be united under a single goverment.

But of course that is impossible under current geopolitical realities and conditions where petty warlordism still exists.

 

[Eşbah]

See my comment above.

Saw it and I can confirm, you've no clue.

Ukraine’s TB-2 Drones Are Back In Action. That’s An Ominous Sign For Russia.

Months after virtually disappearing from Ukraine’s skies, the Ukrainian armed forces’ Bayraktar TB-2 drones are back in action.

www.forbes.com

War is a cat and mouse game. Any system in any war has to undergo constant adaptation in order to survive and be effective in a real war environment. This is anything but surprising.

 

[ThunderCat]

Let me put it this way.

If you were a Palestinian whose family was killed or who is fighting Israel, what would your prefer?

1. People from countries supporting Israel read about you on page 4, in between the funnies and the movie reviews, while sipping a cup of coffee after a nice breakfast? or
2. People pressuring their government to pressure Israel because the economy is suffering as long as Gaza burns.

Most Muslim rulers are bowing their heads like obedient slaves while Palestinian children die by the thousands; only a few are doing something meaningful to keep the world's eyes on Gaza.

Palestinians are too unappreciative of Pakistan's previous support and even betrayed Arab countries that supported them.

No thanks.

I will happily call Israel an ally if it's still serious in destroying Iran's potential nuclear capabilities.

 

[ThunderCat]

Pakistan has to establish a effective deterrence but that doesn't mean we shouldn't understand our duty as Muslims to forge unity across the world, our failure to do so has resulted in weak fractured states which our enemies can target

A delusion in your mind. Sure we should trade and co-operate with other Muslims countries on issues such as drugs, terrorism, human trafficking and other transnational issues.

But your proposals are too much. Friendship & brotherhood is a two way street. Not your stupid "full support sahab, full support sahab."

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

I don't have anything against Iranian people who are friendly or neutral towards Pakistan. But the Iranian regime needs to die.

Pakistanis learned the hard way from Afghans on this Ummah chumma BS. Then came the incidents in Gaza, which suddenly re-triggered the "full support sahab" syndrome of Pakistanis.

A consequence of sitting in the back seat.
You want to be the master of your own destiny? Why don't you own it... yet YOU seek a different master...
Again a childish rant.
Pakistan has gotten used to always picking the shortest and most convenient way... the lowest bid... lowest common denominator.

Yet to rue the foreign with dictating your term... to cut it short ... You are a direct consequence of foreign intervention and you want to forsake one for the other... not because of its travails but because of its convenience.

They are so automated in their programming of hate Israel on behalf of Arabs and Iranians. In the meantime both enjoy normal ties to India.

Yet you know that both Arabs and Iranians have directly supported Pakistan in the past against India...
what changed?

Pakistanis learned the hard way with Afghans and will learn the hard way with Middle Easterners.

Pakistan played for papa's team and not Afghans... both Afghans and papa moved on... left you stranded.

I for one have been pro-Israel against Iran because we cannot afford a second hostile power on our borders.

An imposter, installation of the papa to foment trouble and control the region... the aircraft carrier in ME... and throne of the wicked. Again led and not leading...

Iran is also an ally of India and has too much influence in Pakistan.

And how has Pakistan helped itself? It has always been a slave of its history, consequences of its actions and that of its handlers.
think beyond that India bubble but no it may just burst.

The solution to destroying the Iranian regime is to prop up Iranian freedom fighters to overthrow the regime and establish a secular government that will dismantle all the nuclear facilities.

Are you part of their discourse?

Iran can do without nuclear power. It has enough oil and gas to power it's households and other facilities.

Or they can adopt solar power in hot cities when the sanctions are lifted after the regime change.

And why does it bother you... you already said you're a zionist... and in fact made a very good case for someone who may not seek to depose one master for another ... a tiny horn of satan!

 

[ThunderCat]

Iranian kamekaze drones are better and way more effective and cost effective as well (proven in Ukraine). The bayratkar was also tested in Ukraine and became a failure (according to Ukrainian authorities and military)

Yes because of it's vulnerability to jamming. However Bayraktar is working on improved drone with better counter jamming abilities.

 

[ThunderCat]

AYet you know that both Arabs and Iranians have directly supported Pakistan in the past against India...
what changed?

Stop living in the past.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Palestinians are too unappreciative of Pakistan's previous support and even betrayed Arab countries that supportedSatan!

When you do something for a return... it is called a transaction... NOT HELP!

I will happily call Israel an ally if it's still serious in destroying Iran's potential nuclear capabilities.

Your lord and savior... one you do your bidding for... Palestinians don't appreciate you enough but for Israel you volunteer!

 

[ThunderCat]

Your lord and savior... one you do your bidding for... Palestinians don't appreciate you enough but for Israel you volunteer!

LOL where? I support Israel because we have a common enemy: the Iranian regime.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Stop living in the past.

Oh yes, thunder cat a kid who never grew. Add peterpan to your avatar as well.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

LOL where? I support Israel because we have a common enemy: the Iranian regime.

Because YOU are in a professed league with Israel?

I don't think Pakistan made such overt proclamation.

 

[Pingle]

Iran attack repercussions will be very high for Pakistan.....

I agree Pakistan has full right to defend itself but still at this economic situation he should not have retaliated back.....

1) Do you guys honestly feel China and Russia will like if a full blown war between Pakistan and Iran starts? Iran is equally important to both Russia and China..... you are not only pampered child....

2) Don't you think now Iran can actually have a field day against your shipping lines in red sea with the help of proxies like Houthis? They can even make life miserable for you in Straits of hormuze....

3) Even USA won't like any new war front her resources are too stretched in helping Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan.....

You should have cut the diplomatic ties and warned them that next time such nonsense will not be tolerated..... just a thought.....

I observe so many people are laughing at my post but did I say anything wrong? Aren't you all afraid in your deep hearts with my deep analysis?

 

[Jf Thunder]

@ThunderCat Sahab ko ham dukhi banaye, hamare gustakhi maaf.

only if the actual leaders of the two countries had a bromance like that, there would be peace.

 

[Oscar]

Few members on this forum suggesting Ideas on changes Iran were also proposing a similar ruling system during their time on old PDF. Still want a country ruled by theocracy?

Just saying.