What book are you reading?

My issue with motivational speakers is that they are little more than opportunists, profiting off the vulnerabilities of others by presenting ancient philosophies as if they were novel insights. Their entire body of work is essentially a modern-day plagiarism, repackaging wisdom that has existed for centuries. Philosophers like Aristotle, Socrates, and Epictetus taught these fundamental principles of resilience, self-discipline, and purpose long ago. Today’s motivational speakers don’t innovate—they simply reframe these timeless ideas in a way that resonates with contemporary audiences, adding little more than a few catchy phrases and slick marketing techniques. Even though, Simon Sinek is a million times better than the vast majority of motivational speakers out there; however, he is a part of an industry that I can't trust.

While your assessment of motivational speakers is accurate, isn't that essentially their job? One key lesson I've learned is that most problem solutions lie in effectively implementing fundamental principles or Basics. I frequently advise my team to 'go back to basics.' By revisiting the fundamentals, we ensure a strong foundation and minimize the risk of overlooking crucial details.

Moreover, focusing on the basics often leads to more elegant and sustainable solutions. When we strip away unnecessary complexities, we can identify the core issues and develop targeted, efficient approaches. Simpler solutions tend to be more productive due to their easier implementation and reduced risk of errors. And that is exactly what motivational speakers aim to do.

Sorry But I think here I am going in a wrong direction. 🫣
 
While your assessment of motivational speakers is accurate, isn't that essentially their job? One key lesson I've learned is that most problem solutions lie in effectively implementing fundamental principles or Basics. I frequently advise my team to 'go back to basics.' By revisiting the fundamentals, we ensure a strong foundation and minimize the risk of overlooking crucial details.

Moreover, focusing on the basics often leads to more elegant and sustainable solutions. When we strip away unnecessary complexities, we can identify the core issues and develop targeted, efficient approaches. Simpler solutions tend to be more productive due to their easier implementation and reduced risk of errors. And that is exactly what motivational speakers aim to do.

Sorry But I think here I am going in a wrong direction. 🫣
You, Sir, are well on the way to being a Motivational Writer.
 
While your assessment of motivational speakers is accurate, isn't that essentially their job? One key lesson I've learned is that most problem solutions lie in effectively implementing fundamental principles or Basics. I frequently advise my team to 'go back to basics.' By revisiting the fundamentals, we ensure a strong foundation and minimize the risk of overlooking crucial details.

Moreover, focusing on the basics often leads to more elegant and sustainable solutions. When we strip away unnecessary complexities, we can identify the core issues and develop targeted, efficient approaches. Simpler solutions tend to be more productive due to their easier implementation and reduced risk of errors. And that is exactly what motivational speakers aim to do.

Sorry But I think here I am going in a wrong direction. 🫣

Interested to hear what parts of what Sinek mentioned stood out to you the most or you found most applicable to your team. I skimmed through it (for now), but really I'm interested more in your takeaways/applications.

Revisiting and reinforcing basics is important, even if folks dont know or dont have the time for the original form sources.

You find some building blocks on some matter, then you realise just how much folks get distracted by circumstances, contexts and even coincidences. But human emotions lend to that outer layer first....it was first contact and impression and dictates lot of perceptions that make deeper dispassionate delve harder or less interesting + less important to many folks in the end.

The linearity of Newton's F=ma is "good enough" in vast bulk of day to day cases of our localised use. Similar to how I explained to joe recently that we can treat the world as flat in our local reference, whether it actually turns out to be curved in reality.

We've similarly over many 100s and 1000s of years made use of discretization as this was much more readily harnessed and tangible to us compared to the continuous.

Putting aside the RGB (well ROYGBIV, though my mom taught it first to me as VIBGYOR) I think I mentioned earlier visually (and putting aside Newton's very consequential development here too.... bridging Descartes+Fermat with Maxwell and Einstein downstream)....with our (arguably 2nd most important sense) ears we segregate a continuous spectrum of sound for the intrinsic reasons we do into an octave and its bands C D E F G A B + C and a few intermediaries based on this (sharps and flats).

I explained these (briefly to friends in various places) one set of building blocks to make an endless number of arpeggios when you have just one instrument (or one range) at hand...but even with this "constraint" ....there are some distinct aesthetics connected with patterned-separation that pop up (chords, progressions keys et al)....connected to some deeper truths (that then take much more time to explore).

Then it is all a matter of what imprints by some chronology and circumstance particular to us in the end....from that "outside" as it first intersected with us from our initial tabula rasa.

It is instructive even with just the constrained form....the guitar I play, the chords and arpeggios that most struck out to me....their earlier sound during the lute era for example and the andalusian cadence of the western ear that was formative for so much.

I told a buddy one time, one of our favourite bands (regarding a song that reminisces about a place growing up) using E C A as its basic progression hits the mark so well by its simplicity even taking the vocals away. But it was the vocal style (copied a few years after) by another band that brought up a court case (a lesser known one compared to some others in music)....the infringement stuff discussed earlier brought this to my mind just now heh. But the 2nd song also elects a similar progression (more conventional - E G A) and aesthetically sounds similar (i.e the basic reason of why E and A sound good) if you have the ear for it. Then the lyrics do their bit to further contrast, separate away and disguise what is more connected in fundamental essence....though even here something of an inverse relation is built up.

You add more sets of instruments (especially that searing sound of bowing a string rather than just plucking it...and the somewhat mellower hybrid a piano does with its string hammering)...and all kind of aspirated instruments too (for whatever ensemble - orchestra you can expand this with)..... you can start to add more complexity and contrast as Bach did taking counterpoint to the new levels and richness he did....so much so that the andalusian cadence got submerged to a substrata (though it has re-appeared+re-invigorated maybe mostly due to American music "back to basics" in its new world context).

i.e its really up to a person's interest to explore the earliest contours or to really grasp finer detail in the long form development of underlying theory and history....in most modern praxis its good enough if they know and can use and have their conceptualisation of building block importance past that.

i.e This linearity + discretization is essentially inbuilt in our perception, non-linear and continuous forms of the same spectrum and essence simply end up being lot harder and more noisy in comparison, at least without time invested into it.

Hence building blocks being important as larger phenomenon.

This connects with some of my earlier replies as to the math side of things..... all the way from why certain archetypes appear in number theory (as to why the building blocks of the smallest integers end up dictating what and where certain things break down in higher dimensional spaces that say algebra and geometry visualise and explore more) and all the way to its connective aggregation in say the pareto principle (80% of outcomes coming from just 20% of the causes).
 
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I keep thinking about how things work in insaniyat, and feeling very sad, and pitying people here.


Precisely and painfully so. In those conversations, people start with shared knowledge foundations. Here we have all that rotten social media maundering to brush away before being able to say anything sensible.

I am not frustrated so much as physically exhausted. It takes me back to my teaching days, when a matter had to be explained again and again and again, to carry the back-benchers along with the eaga beavas.

Would like to add I read your patient but frustrated engagements much like a book from time to time. I empathise with a lot of it (and other folks like you in various threads arrayed around here), been there done that in various capacities....

.....but its ultimately a forum aligned to defence and military affairs of one country..... which brings a certain kind of politics and asserted narratives formative to or derived from that.. front and centre inevitably (and then tiers of more well minded folks defend/justify it in tribal fashion) that tends to steer contours of everything else regd neighbourhood and larger world.

The world is full of strife in the end...the relative idylls exist as they do.

The Vanyar did stay above the fray in valinor. It was the Noldor affected by the violation of the idyll, that formed host on a terrible oath...and the tragic kinslaying followed shortly. Mirroring much the progression that happened from Eden's violation to the brother slaying his own like he did. Yet the stories follow not Vanyar, Valinor or Eden....but the Noldor and progeny outside Eden. That catch 22 that only outside the idyll do you encounter the sieves of trials and tribulations (and costs and lessons along the way) and everything to do with free will....of confronting some heavy dark forces inside our psyche.... without higher protection and sanctuary.

Frodo: "I wish the ring had never come to me. I wish none of this had happened."

Gandalf: "So do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us."


There is a reason Gandalf tests and entrusts a great many things to a few particular inhabitants of the shire that were in a relative idyll too to be able to do this at all.

The easily swayed humans and far fewer elf remnants have this late stage been marred and sundered by a great many things. I explained this over course of 2 hours one evening to my mom and some others that love the LOTR (but really have not thought deeply enough on it)

But going forward I operate on this fellowship manner more and more...and importance of having some relative idylls to gauge and prioritise what happens in the fray beyond it better.

You are one of the few that know my position on nationalism and nations themselves. Why I consider them a means to a (better to come) end....if one properly studies the human reality ever since we formed in Africa. Nations (and other collective identities) are a subjective phenomenon in the end, mentally pretending and asserting to be objective.

When I mentioned the idyll in a song earlier:

I told a buddy one time, one of our favourite bands (regarding a song that reminisces about a place growing up)

it is not without reason, earlier in life I used to gravitate more to the description of the idyll itself:

Well, take me back down where cool water flow, y'all
Let me remember things I love, Lord
Stoppin' at the log where catfish bite
Walkin' along the river road at night
Barefoot girls dancin' in the moonlight

I can hear the bullfrog callin' me, aw
Wonder if my rope's still hangin' to the tree, aw
Love to kick my feet way down the shallow water
Shoofly, dragonfly, get back to mother
Pick up a flat rock, skip it across Green River
Well!

But later in life, it is really the conclusion that is most poignant to me (along with Fogerty's vocals and his final "wellllllllll" and the higher guitar riff used in this verse alone to make it distinct)....that the world is indeed smoulderin....that if you get lost...to come on home. A short simple but oh so wonderful and evocative song that strikes a deep deep message, so typical of CCR.

Up at Cody's camp I spent my days, Lord
With flat car riders and cross-tie walkers
Old Cody Junior took me over
Said, "You're gonna find the world is smoulderin'
And if you get lost come on home to Green River."

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Just started reading SPQR by Mary Beard (pic below) these days. So far enjoying reading it and those of you who are fans of Roman Empire and want to delve into the early history of ancient Rome, then this book might be a good start for beginners.

It starts from the very ancient history of Rome, where Mary Beard tells about the various myths and legends associated with the origins of Rome. The story of Romulus and Remus as well as the famous and legendary Trojan prince Aeneas who is considered the original founder of Rome. The famous seven Tarquin kings of Rome (there were supposed to be other kings in between because the timeline of the monarchy is so stretched as per ancient historical sources that each of the seven king should have live for 100 years) and Rome's transition from monarchy to republic after Tarquinius Superbus's (the last Tarquin king) tyranny. But Mary Beard doesn't explain the details of every myth/legend and events mentioned as she just glosses over them, so I would urge readers to go about and read or watch videos on those events just to get the general idea.

However, Mary Beard cautions its readers that much of that ancient history should not be taken for granted, because its very long and stretched with limited evidences from archeology and historical texts etc. Most of the ancient history of Rome (if written) was "lost to flames" after the sack of Rome by Gauls in 390 BC and therefore later 1st Century BC historians and writers of Rome themselves had no primary source available and therefore much of such myths/legends or events were exaggerated at best. Also as per consensus Roman history got actually recorded after the sack from 390 BC onwards and it transitioned from myths to facts.

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I have this at home haven't read it yet. Write a short review here after you are done.
Abhi tuk wt I have read.....one this is certain that wt we have been told n actual history are two different things
 
Aristotle

Ironically, Aristotle was wrong on just about everything related to science.

Both atomic theory and (quasi) heliocentricism were proposed before him but he opposed them and his dominance ensured they remained fringe theories until they were revived in the modern era.
 
Ironically, Aristotle was wrong on just about everything related to science.

Both atomic theory and (quasi) heliocentricism were proposed before him but he opposed them and his dominance ensured they remained fringe theories until they were revived in the modern era.
I am well aware of that. However, I was talking about stoicism in my post which is philosphy not science.
 

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