Chinese Should Be the Official Language of the World

[ety]

English has already taken over the world and there is no going back. Chinese language with 100,000 different characters is even difficult for the native Chinese speakers. English has 26 alphabet set for the key board while the Chinese has no equivalent. Chinese Communist Party oppose teaching English as second language in most of their primary schools. French and Spanish worlds have also accepted English primacy but only some Chinese supremacists and their paid agents are advocating it.

Lol, you only have to learn about 3000 Chinese characters that are more like words in English to be proficient in Chinese language. I think nearly every primary Chinese school teaches English as a second foreign language and I dont know where you get the crazy idea that CPC bans English.

 

[ety]

Okay so why 刀 is two and 口 is three strokes and why 水 is five strokes?

Has to do with how Chinese is written using brush. 水 is 4 strokes, not 5.

 

[AjayGhatak]

Has to do with how Chinese is written using brush.

So you lift brush only twice in writing 刀 but thrice in writing 口?

I am sure as hell I can write 口 in two brush strokes. But that stroke order wont be standard right? Thats not how writing is taught in schools, isnt it?

Thats what I am talking about. Basically you have to know how to WRITE Chinese charecters properly as in how many strokes to make (and there are 3000 of them at an average) to even use dictionaries properly. Otherwise you will waste a lot of time when looking up a character.

 

[BHAN85]

Chinese will never use something like the Korean system just based on phonetic sounds. Such simple system is not sophiscated enough to represent Chinese language, ideas and culture. Koreans today still use some Chinese characters in some places to be distinguishable.

I meant, Chinese can create their own easy alphabet like Korean did.

It's ok to respect own history and language.

But it also world lacks a common easy to learn international language.

By now it's the English and Latin alphabet, but it could be something designed from zero, Esperanto or Lojban like, to be impartial and easy to learn in every aspect for each human being, with a proportional representation of every major language.

All can be improved and rationally designed.

e.g: Gregg shorthand is a fast way to write (although it would be slow to read).

Gregg shorthand - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[ety]

So you lift brush only twice in writing 刀 but thrice in writing 口?

I am sure as hell I can write 口 in two brush strokes. But that stroke order wont be standard right? Thats not how writing is taught in schools, isnt it?

Thats what I am talking about. Basically you have to know how to WRITE Chinese charecters properly as in how many strokes to make (and there are 3000 of them at an average) to even use dictionaries properly. Otherwise you will waste a lot of time when looking up a character.

You don't know what you are talking about, there are not nearly 3000 strokes, but 3000 Chinese characters in everyday use. Chinese learn how to count and write the strokes just as English kids learn about alphabets.

 

[ety]

I meant, Chinese can create their own easy alphabet like Korean did.

It's ok to respect own history and language.

But it also world lacks a common easy to learn international language.

By now it's the English and Latin alphabet, but it could be something designed from zero, Esperanto or Lojban like, to be impartial and easy to learn in every aspect for each human being, with a proportional representation of every major language.

All can be improved and rationally designed.

e.g: Gregg shorthand is a fast way to write (although it would be slow to read).

Gregg shorthand - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Chinese writing system is different from the common phonetic system used in other languages. Chinese characters are created based on pictogram, ideogram and phonetic sounds. The characters slowly evolved over 4 thousands years, they served Chinese well and will continue to be used, Chinese are not going to create a phonetic writing system for their language.

 

[AjayGhatak]

You don't know what you are talking about, there are not nearly 3000 strokes, but 3000 Chinese characters in everyday use. Chinese learn how to count and write the strokes just as English kids learn about alphabets.

Each of 3000 charecters have their own stroke counts. And there is nothing like a general rule for counting because all rules have exceptions in counting strokes because there are exceptions to stroke orders in writing.

Chinese students memorise and internalize stroke order by practice. Apparently there are restriction in the direction you can move your brush / pen. But there are even exceptions to those rules. And thats how they are able to do stroke counting, generally.

We do not count strokes in writing english alphabet at all. You ONLY need to know the sequence of alphabets and thats all and can learn how to use dictionaries.

Unfortunately in chinese, using dictionaries is not very effective without knowing how to count strokes.

So yes, for READING chinese with a dictionary you need to be able to master some basic writing as well otherwise using a dictionary will be hard.

 

[ety]

Each of 3000 charecters have their own stroke counts. And there is nothing like a general rule for counting because all rules have exceptions in counting strokes because there are exceptions to stroke orders in writing.

Chinese students memorise and internalize stroke order by practice. Apparently there are restriction in the direction you can move your brush / pen. But there are even exceptions to those rules. And thats how they are able to do stroke counting, generally.

We do not count strokes in writing english alphabet at all. You ONLY need to know the sequence of alphabets and thats all and can learn how to use dictionaries.

Unfortunately in chinese, using dictionaries is not very effective without knowing how to count strokes.

So yes, for READING chinese with a dictionary you need to be able to master some basic writing as well otherwise using a dictionary will be hard.

You don't know what you are talking about, each Chinese character is composed of a combination of a number out of 33 distinct strokes, that's all, you only have to learn to read and write 33 distinct strokes, the building blocks of Chinese characters. It is as nearly easy for me to use Chinese dictionary as the English one.

 

[Yommie]

Chinese should not be the official language. All the computer languages are in English.

 

[ety]

Chinese should not be the official language. All the computer languages are in English.

Neither English. No world official language is needed and won't be accepted by other countries.

 

[Yommie]

Neither English. No world official language is needed.

Exactly my point. Why need an official language? This is clearly a troll thread.

 

[ety]

Exactly my point. Why need an official language? This is clearly a troll thread.

But, there are six official languages of the UN. These are Arabic, Chinese, English, French, Russian and Spanish. There are enough.

 

[Beijingwalker]

What a bald faced lie. It's not a dialect its a different language.

What? Indians claim knowing Chinese better than we Chinese do? how much Chinese do you speak?

 

[MH.Yang]

The greatest advantage of the Chinese language is that it is conducive to inheritance, and it will not be washed away from civilisation by a long history.

The Chinese language is a hieroglyphic script, and the form of its words represents the actual meaning. If one day we suddenly lose a large number of intellectuals for whatever reason, the remaining people will be able to pass on their civilisation by virtue of the hieroglyphic script.

Whereas English words are made up of letters, its own form reflects only the pronunciation and not the specific meaning. Many proprietary English words are pronounced in a way that only a small percentage of the population understands. If one day a catastrophe takes away this intellectual population, the civilisation and knowledge represented by these words will die out in history. It is a language that is not conducive to transmission.

Modern Chinese can easily read ancient Chinese texts from thousands of years ago, but can modern Englishmen read ancient English texts? This is the greatest advantage of Chinese writing.

 

[Yommie]

But, there are six official languages of the UN. These are Arabic, Chinese, English, French, Russian and Spanish. There are enough.

Nowhere in the world needs an official language.