Tesla Vehicles Megathread
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uh oh Forbes is starting to see the light...
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30 minute review: New Tesla Model Y at Tesla store and service center in North Hollywood.
On Friday, I had a chance to test drive the new Model Y with v13 of Full Self Driving at a Los Angeles store in North Hollywood.
The new Model Y with v13 deftly negotiated some very congested and narrow backstreets off Sherman Way in North Hollywood – where it had to dodge chaotic oncoming traffic that occasionally encroached onto my side of the road – and negotiated a very dicey left turn across traffic on Sherman Way. In the latter case, a parked car blocked visibility (at least for me) of heavy traffic coming from the left while a car in the middle (turning) lane temporarily blocked the path in front of the Y. Plus, there was heavy traffic coming from the right. The Y patiently waited for the right time to make the left turn across traffic. It was impressive.
On Friday, I also had another chance to use Waymo in downtown Beverly Hills. I would say that Waymo and the new Model Y with FSD v13 performed similarly in heavy Los Angeles traffic.
Unsupervised FSD – Tesla speak for a driverless robotaxi – is slated to begin in Austin, Texas in June and roll out to other cities later, Tesla CEO Elon Musk and Tesla executives said in the fourth quarter earnings conference call.
New Tesla Model Y Test Drive With FSD 13: Getting Closer To Waymo?
A brief review of the new Model Y with v13 of Full Self Driving was impressive.
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New Tesla Model Y Test Drive With FSD 13: Getting Closer To Waymo?
30 minute review: New Tesla Model Y at Tesla store and service center in North Hollywood.
On Friday, I had a chance to test drive the new Model Y with v13 of Full Self Driving at a Los Angeles store in North Hollywood.
FSD v13 on the New Model Y: Waymo on a Tesla
I would venture to say that FSD v13 is a lot closer to being on par with Waymo’s driverless taxis (which I have used many times in Los Angeles). I would not have said that three months ago when I was sampling v12.The new Model Y with v13 deftly negotiated some very congested and narrow backstreets off Sherman Way in North Hollywood – where it had to dodge chaotic oncoming traffic that occasionally encroached onto my side of the road – and negotiated a very dicey left turn across traffic on Sherman Way. In the latter case, a parked car blocked visibility (at least for me) of heavy traffic coming from the left while a car in the middle (turning) lane temporarily blocked the path in front of the Y. Plus, there was heavy traffic coming from the right. The Y patiently waited for the right time to make the left turn across traffic. It was impressive.
On Friday, I also had another chance to use Waymo in downtown Beverly Hills. I would say that Waymo and the new Model Y with FSD v13 performed similarly in heavy Los Angeles traffic.
Unsupervised FSD – Tesla speak for a driverless robotaxi – is slated to begin in Austin, Texas in June and roll out to other cities later, Tesla CEO Elon Musk and Tesla executives said in the fourth quarter earnings conference call.
The old Y needed a facelift
The new Y looks fresh and new up close. The facelift mirrors the Model 3 update, which gave the 3 a more streamlined, sleeker look. I had limited time with the new Y (30 minutes) and was focused almost exclusively on FSD so this is hardly a review but I did notice how quiet the cabin was and the handling. Both were improvements over the older version.
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How Would Voice Grok 3 Work in Tesla Cars ? | NextBigFuture.com
Grok 3’s voice mode is slated for integration into Tesla vehicles. Elon Musk confirmed this during a February 17, 2025, live demo announcement, stating that
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How Would Voice Grok 3 Work in Tesla Cars ?
Grok 3’s voice mode is slated for integration into Tesla vehicles. Elon Musk confirmed this during a February 17, 2025, live demo announcement, stating that Grok 3’s voice capabilities, while “still a little patchy,” are expected to launch “in about a week” (roughly February 24, 2025) and will enhance voice commands in all Tesla cars.
Earlier, on January 7-8, 2025, Musk announced via X livestreams that Grok would soon enable conversational interactions in Teslas, saying, “You’ll be able to talk to your Tesla and ask for anything.”
The February 17 demo showcased Grok 3’s capabilities, with Musk hinting at Tesla integration going live that night, though the voice mode’s final rollout was delayed a week for polish.
Delivery: Local Installs, Cloud Access, or Mix?
Here’s is the expected delivery method.
Cloud Access as the Baseline: Musk stated in an October 2024 X Space (reported by Not a Tesla App) that Grok “would not be run locally on the vehicle” and would “send out a snippet of the voice request” to servers for processing, requiring an internet connection. This matches Tesla’s current voice command system, which processes speech remotely (Not a Tesla App, Dec 12, 2024).
Tesla’s Premium Connectivity ($10/month) already supports cloud-dependent features like streaming, suggesting Grok 3 voice will lean heavily on cloud access via Tesla’s or xAI’s servers. The February 17 demo reinforced this, showcasing Grok 3’s server-side prowess.
Local Installs? Unlikely Standalone: Tesla’s hardware (HW3, HW4) has significant compute power—enough for Full Self-Driving (FSD)—and Musk mused in November 2023 (DesignBoom) that cars could run a “smaller quantized version” of Grok locally. However, he’s since prioritized server-side processing for Grok 3, likely due to its complexity (trained on 200,000 GPUs, per Shop4Tesla). Running it fully onboard would strain resources, especially with FSD taking priority. No evidence suggests a full local install by 2026.
A Mix? Most Plausible: Historical precedent and practicality point to a hybrid approach. Tesla’s FSD uses local compute for real-time decisions but pulls updates and maps from the cloud. For Grok 3, basic voice command recognition (e.g., wake word “Grok,” per Not a Tesla App, Feb 17) could process locally to reduce latency, with complex queries (e.g., “Find the least crowded restaurant”) sent to the cloud. This mirrors competitors like Google Gemini, blending on-device and server-side AI. Musk’s assurance that “all Teslas” (even older Intel-based models) will get Grok supports this—cloud reliance levels the hardware playing field, with local caching for frequent commands (e.g., “Open Charge Port”).
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Tesla isn't doing so hot right now, with the general boycott in place, along with the myriad of actual build issues that tesla vehicles seem to continue suffering from.
Won't be surprised if Elon faces a lawsuit from investors who aren't happy with Elon's antics eating away at Tesla's profits.
Won't be surprised if Elon faces a lawsuit from investors who aren't happy with Elon's antics eating away at Tesla's profits.
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Tesla offers the US version of FSD to customers in China. No training on local Chinese roads.
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City autopilot: Tesla FSD enters China with owners showcasing it on city streets
Tesla full-self-driving (FSD) enters China in a monumental step for autonomous driving in the world's biggest car market.
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This thread in China forum:
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