Attack on Jaffer Express

[PakAl]

Let’s arrest make some more Baloch people disappear and keep repeating what we have done with bangladesh. With the same energy to never learn ever….
Let’s blame PTI, let’s blame Imran Khan

Our biggest failure is to allow anti Pakistan ideology to operate. Will Saudi Arabia, UAE, Turkey allow anti state ideologies to be operated, absolutely not. We can counter this through good education, development, making people lives better, building roads, hospitals, giving jobs. This is why Imran Khan started Riyash Gah for the poor workers, to show them Pakistani people and state cares about them, he gave them free accommodation, food, security. We had millions of Afghans in Pakistan for 40 years but we failed to win them and make them allies, it's our rulers fault, it's easier to swear at them but have we ever tried, to educate their children, make them feel part of our society, even when overseas Pakistanis visit Pakistan, they get harassed, bullied, people overtake their properties, land and in return the state takes bribes instead of giving them justice and security. Now Imagine your a poor person from KPK and Balochistan, what do they go through? This is where the militants recruit from, and promote anti state narrative.

 

[Abdul q]

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Kamiyab OPERATION Or buried in a mass grave somewhere remote…..

 

[5thgenEnjoyer]

How many civilians have been killed?

Hostage rescue from tunnel could take days.

From what I can see, the train has arrived at a nearby station and the terrorists have been neutralised


Number of civ injuries but no reported deaths as of yet

 

[Abdul q]

Our biggest failure is to allow anti Pakistan ideology to operate. Will Saudi Arabia, UAE, Turkey allow anti state ideologies to be operated, absolutely not. We can counter this through good education, development, making people lives better, building roads, hospitals, giving jobs. This is why Imran Khan started Riyash Gah for the poor workers, to show them Pakistani people and state cares about them, he gave them free accommodation, food, security. We had millions of Afghans in Pakistan for 40 years but we failed to win them and make them allies, it's our rulers fault, it's easier to swear at them but have we ever tried, to educate their children, make them feel part of our society, even when overseas Pakistanis visit Pakistan, they get harassed, bullied, people overtake their properties, land and in return the state takes bribes instead of giving them justice and security. Now Imagine your a poor person from KPK and Balochistan, what do they go through? This is where the militants recruit from, and promote anti state narrative.

So we were giving budget to Lumber 1 for no reason? Let them gobble up all the mines, resources for daddy across seven seas then we will think about defending the homeland.. afterall that’s where there kids would be studying…

 

[Broghil]

It's a shame that we always go for petty point scoring. Pro Govt will always blame it on PTI and company and anti govt circles will only drum it up as it only happened bcz IK is imprisoned and establishment is not focused.
We never seem to understand that for some issues we need to rise above our biases and political views.

 

[Waterboy]

They are building up a strong narrative against the Pakistani state, slowly they want it to explode in to a full blown insurgency like it happened in Syria, Libya etc, all they have to do is slowly keep feeding it in order for it to turn in to a monster. They exploit the grievances of the poor population. This is why Pakistani state and leadership needs to immediately change their hard-line approach and start to fund and support a counter ideology, back it with human rights, development, education, Pakistan ideology and culture. NOT promote wokeism and anti Pakistan ideology due to foreign pressure and phone calls.

How can someone go berserk like that? That's nearly impossible for me to comprehend. He was embedded with the fauj and has seen first hand the ideology of these assholes, but now he's insane to

 

[newb3e]

They are building up a strong narrative against the Pakistani state, slowly they want it to explode in to a full blown insurgency like it happened in Syria, Libya etc, all they have to do is slowly keep feeding it in order for it to turn in to a monster. They exploit the grievances of the poor population. This is why Pakistani state and leadership needs to immediately change their hard-line approach and start to fund and support a counter ideology, back it with human rights, development, education, Pakistan ideology and culture. NOT promote wokeism and anti Pakistan ideology due to foreign pressure and phone calls.

mafia occupiers are not Pakistani state!

 

[Distant_Observer]

They are building up a strong narrative against the Pakistani state, slowly they want it to explode in to a full blown insurgency like it happened in Syria, Libya etc, all they have to do is slowly keep feeding it in order for it to turn in to a monster. They exploit the grievances of the poor population. This is why Pakistani state and leadership needs to immediately change their hard-line approach and start to fund and support a counter ideology, back it with human rights, development, education, Pakistan ideology and culture. NOT promote wokeism and anti Pakistan ideology due to foreign pressure and phone calls.

None of that Norway human rights shit works with narco terrorists in this part of the world. They see it as weakness.

Consequences for sedition need to be severe, no negotiation.

 

[Mirzali Khan]

It's a shame that we always go for petty point scoring. Pro Govt will always blame it on PTI and company and anti govt circles will only drum it up as it only happened bcz IK is imprisoned and establishment is not focused.
We never seem to understand that for some issues we need to rise above our biases and political views.

Well they started blaming PTI right off the bat, in a cheap attempt to "kill 2 birds with one stone" politically.

 

[MirageV3ff]

Sab chorro guys. How much you want to bet absolutely nothing will happen after this attack and the funerals that shall follow?

I'm all in on nothing.

I agree. Nothing's gonna happen, they said that 'airstrikes would be the norm' but it's 3 months now and nothing has been done. Terror attacks in Banu and it was radio silence afterwards. Bus in Balochistan was hijacked and people were killed, nothing was done. Now this is happening, mind you with intelligence guys on that train, they didn't know this was gonna happen. They know how to spot and deal with anti army posts but can't deal with a bunch of rag tag militias? The downfall has been immense

 

[PakAl]

None of that Norway human rights shit works with narco terrorists in this part of the world. They see it as weakness.

Consequences for sedition need to be severe, no negotiation.

I am talking about the people of those areas.

 

[MirageV3ff]

Two things can be true at the same time. As we saw with the Afghan Talibs. Sustaining themselves through narcotics but ultimately surviving because they found sanctuary in their local areas, because of failures of the national government. I extend this my understanding as an olive branch to you in hopes you too can accept that it is not just one variable at play, and that you will accept it

Second, if the problem is Afghanistan then deal the border. Spend the resources and seal the border once and for all, or admit it’s not about winning the fight but sustaining the political state for the dividends it pays the few at the expense of the many, including the brace shaheed, you give their lives for the sake of Pakistan, far too often.

All parts of the country deserve equitable development. Failure to do so is just a recruiting poster for the militants. As for attacking your own towns, it’s what the militant supporters want you to do, playing into the narrative and the trap they have set.

It's unfortunate, apart from developing Punjab the rest of the country is in shambles. Lol I've started seeing nationalist Gilgit accounts online, the more you ignore issues of your people the more ethno-nationalism ideals will increase. In case of the BLA, they get sympathy from liberals because hey the military establishment has been interfering in democracy. Whatever the goodwill they had is all gone without our enemies having to do anything

 

[FuturePAF]

Our biggest failure is to allow anti Pakistan ideology to operate. Will Saudi Arabia, UAE, Turkey allow anti state ideologies to be operated, absolutely not. We can counter this through good education, development, making people lives better, building roads, hospitals, giving jobs. This is why Imran Khan started Riyash Gah for the poor workers, to show them Pakistani people and state cares about them, he gave them free accommodation, food, security. We had millions of Afghans in Pakistan for 40 years but we failed to win them and make them allies, it's our rulers fault, it's easier to swear at them but have we ever tried, to educate their children, make them feel part of our society, even when overseas Pakistanis visit Pakistan, they get harassed, bullied, people overtake their properties, land and in return the state takes bribes instead of giving them justice and security. Now Imagine your a poor person from KPK and Balochistan, what do they go through? This is where the militants recruit from, and promote anti state narrative.

Exactly, what ever happened to effort and drive behind Bachon ko Parhana hai?

Baluchistan has a population of just approx. 15 million. Spending enough to give a decent education and career training to enough people to turn things around is relatively small. And if done so, these can be the people that are happy fisherman on the Makran coast, making the coastal areas safe. If the route from Gwadar to Reko diq is made into the solar power corridor of the country staffed by locals, in the factories of solar panels and managing the power plants, we won’t need oil/gas from Iran, and can secure that border with a wall. Adequate investment in all areas, open up the province to being safe, no longer a war zone and safe for the safe to direct funding to useful efforts, benefiting locals and the rest of the country as well.

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[MirageV3ff]

Exactly, what ever happened to effort and drive behind Bachon ko Parhana hai?

Baluchistan has a population of just approx. 15 million. Spending enough to give a decent education and career training to enough people to turn things around is relatively small. And if done so, these can be the people that are happy fisherman on the Makran coast, making the coastal areas safe. If the route from Gwadar to Reko diq is made into the solar power corridor of the country staffed by locals, in the factories of solar panels and managing the power plants, we won’t need oil/gas from Iran, and can secure that border with a wall. Adequate investment in all areas, open up the province to being safe, no longer a war zone and safe for the safe to direct funding to useful efforts, benefiting locals and the rest of the country as well.

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Baluchistan's main issue has always been a development issue. Something that's easy to do but the state has neglected for a very very long time. People would stop supporting these fanatics when their province will see actual development that benefits them.

 

[Mirzali Khan]

Yeah but it still got built. And lots of other work was done. The intent is there. But for some reason they don't deal with the troublemakers. A seperatist doesn't mean anything, its just a label. What you are is a criminal. There is nothing grandiose about it. If they are weeded out and their foreign handlers then that would be progress.

The purpose of an airport is to serve as a place for airplane takeoff and landing, act as a place for travelers to stay for flights, and to have maintenance and repair for airplanes.

If an airport isn't doing that then its clearly not serving its purpose, how do you not get that