Attack on Jaffer Express

[r3alist]

I would like to know why this post containing this video was deleted? It reflects the global narrative beng built around Baloch seperatism. I have seen this video, and i really dont see any issue with what is in the video. It is quite fair and open view on what is happening in Balochistan that will be seen by westerners and people here need to be aware of it.

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Simply saying this is a "Western Wet Dream" is not enough.

It's barely made the news
That video proves nothing

 

[Khansaheeb]

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Pakistan needs to stop being reactive and take the war to the foreign paid agents. Unleash the ISI.

 

[RescueRanger]

It's barely made the news
That video proves nothing

Well said. Not a single "global rat" cares about Pakistani blood, why should we care for their opinions, are we so desperate for validation. Had hoti hain yaar.

 

[r3alist]

Well said. Not a single "global rat" cares about Pakistani blood, why should we care for their opinions, are we so desperate for validation. Had hoti hain yaar.

I have been on BBC a few times, I am actually more confused how this story is tucked away in the south Asia section, not once on the home page

If you search on Google news it's all Indian news


I would make the opposite point, why is there barely no coverage? it's a pretty attention grabbing event regardless of where

 

[Oscar]

Pakistan needs to stop being reactive and take the war to the foreign paid agents. Unleash the ISI.

ISI has been stretched thin for political purposes - otherwise there was a period a few years ago when they were focused less of political activity and the results were seen.

Even if you have just 20% competent people in ISI - and you just let them do the exact job they are assigned to - the situation will improve considerably.

 

[RescueRanger]

I have been on BBC a few times, I am actually more confused how this story is tucked away in the south Asia section, not once on the home page

If you search on Google news it's all Indian news


I would make the opposite point, why is there barely no coverage? it's a pretty attention grabbing event regardless of where

Again because we don't matter. People should ask why is the leader of a terrorist outfit that has been declared a terrorist outfit by Switzerland, Pakistan and the US hiding away in London? Why is he given safe harbour there?

Why should we care what some random youtuber has to say about Balochistan. As for the BBC, during the Lal Masjid operation, an Operation I was on the ground in lifting bodies, let me tell you I learned the truth about the International Media first hand that day.

Just narrative driven garbage. The are quick to switch on a dime, there are many learned and educated people in Pakistan and those who understand the terrain and struggles better than some rando sitting in London or Washington or Singapore.

But wohi baat hain na, ghar ki murghi daal barabar!

 

[Oscar]

Again because we don't matter. People should ask why is the leader of a terrorist outfit that has been declared a terrorist outfit by Switzerland, Pakistan and the US hiding away in London? Why is he given safe harbour there?

Why should we care what some random youtuber has to say about Balochistan. As for the BBC, during the Lal Masjid operation, an Operation I was on the ground in lifting bodies, let me tell you I learned the truth about the International Media first hand that day.

Just narrative driven garbage. The are quick to switch on a dime, there are many learned and educated people in Pakistan and those who understand the terrain and struggles better than some rando sitting in London or Washington or Singapore.

But wohi baat hain na, ghar ki murghi daal barabar!

Unfortunately global perception and parroted media stories run the game.

Being on the ground - to what is spoken to the press - to what is reported are three completely independently decided narratives.

I was on the ground at Marriot in 2008 - despite various other witnesses and investigations by our own folks - people fail to realize that the did jack shit compared to the fire which started INDEPENDENT to it. But it was buried both internally and by the media.

Same for PC Peshawar - it’s story is very convoluted but unfortunately cannot be stated(until it will be one day soon IA but then my visit to Pk will end permanently )

 

[RescueRanger]

Unfortunately global perception and parroted media stories run the game.

Being on the ground - to what is spoken to the press - to what is reported are three completely independently decided narratives.

I was on the ground at Marriot in 2008 - despite various other witnesses and investigations by our own folks - people fail to realize that the did jack shit compared to the fire which started INDEPENDENT to it. But it was buried both internally and by the media.

Same for PC Peshawar - it’s story is very convoluted but unfortunately cannot be stated(until it will be one day soon IA but then my visit to Pk will end permanently )

This!

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Looks like the Pak Deep State is quite serious this time. They want it extensive and apprehensive with achievable goals. Some developments in their favor:

• President Trump's bonhomie with Putin, and disdain and contempt for the "Old World"
• The Turkish military has shown how to successfully wage asymmetric robotic warfare with indigenous means against the best of the Western proxies armed, trained, enabled and financed to the teeth, and then eliminate them
• Dissention within the Taliban leadership with a potential for a regime range in Kabul
• Pakistan's willingness to go after all terrorists - irrespective of hue and color- within Afganistan
• Cooperation with Turkey, China, Russia, CA republics & the USA in this regard
• President Trump wants to extract a revenge on Biden's failures
• Etc.

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[Oscar]

At the end of the- be it Balochistan or anything else in Pakistan. Rarely are qualified individuals taking decisions because qualified individuals don’t shout beyond their voice nor use machiavellian means to usurp power.

Simplest example - PIA livery change in early 2000s during Mush’s time. Fancy decals were ordered for aircraft even when both on ground PIA personnel who knew the environment they operate in and those from Boeing did not recommend them - but because a certain someone in charge knew a certain someone who was to make money off it you had these decals applied that kept coming off and required man hours to reapply consistently delaying aircraft availability.

 

[r3alist]

Again because we don't matter. People should ask why is the leader of a terrorist outfit that has been declared a terrorist outfit by Switzerland, Pakistan and the US hiding away in London? Why is he given safe harbour there?

Why should we care what some random youtuber has to say about Balochistan. As for the BBC, during the Lal Masjid operation, an Operation I was on the ground in lifting bodies, let me tell you I learned the truth about the International Media first hand that day.

Just narrative driven garbage. The are quick to switch on a dime, there are many learned and educated people in Pakistan and those who understand the terrain and struggles better than some rando sitting in London or Washington or Singapore.

But wohi baat hain na, ghar ki murghi daal barabar!

London is home to the world's separatists and dubious characters since forever, this cannot be surprising

Yes absolutely narrative building, modern hybrid warfare etc at the time Pakistan was in the thick of it as frenemy NATO partner with nukes during lal masjid

The motive made sense at least, not that it helped your humanitarian efforts I am sure but you know what was going on

Therefore, Knowing that every event can be weaponised, like India is doing, I did ponder why no major coverage at all, ignoring something is active not passive, in this context

 

[RescueRanger]

@Oscar we may have inadvertently crossed paths during Marriott all the chaos post incident. Met some folks from the MSG and one fellow who was from the FBI ERT there.

 

[RescueRanger]

London is home to the world's separatists and dubious characters since forever, this cannot be surprising

Yes absolutely narrative building, modern hybrid warfare etc at the time Pakistan was in the thick of it as frenemy NATO partner with nukes during lal masjid

The motive made sense at least, not that it helped your humanitarian efforts I am sure but you know what was going on

Therefore, Knowing that every event can be weaponised, like India is doing, I did ponder why no major coverage at all, ignoring something is active not passive, in this context

I just don't even bother nowadays to be honest. I monitor international media using a third party plugin where I just get synopsis of keywords I have listed, but most of the time its the same old same old.

Problem is and I do this is our internal problem, we are not very good at crisis communication. It is one of our critical weaknesses.

 

[RescueRanger]

Looks like the Pak Deep State is quite serious this time. They want it extensive and apprehensive with achievable goals. Some developments in their favor:

• President Trump's bonhomie with Putin, and disdain and contempt for the "Old World"
• The Turkish military has shown how to successfully wage asymmetric robotic warfare with indigenous means against the best of the Western proxies armed, trained, enabled and financed to the teeth, and then eliminate them
• Dissention within the Taliban leadership with a potential for a regime range in Kabul
• Pakistan's willingness to go after all terrorists - irrespective of hue and color- within Afganistan
• Cooperation with Turkey, China, Russia, CA republics & the USA in this regard
• President Trump wants to extract a revenge on Biden's failures
• Etc.

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Remember it is Ramzan, if you cannot do anything else, simple pray for our nation and the brave men and women who face bombs and bullets on a daily basis. Who sacrifice their today's for our tomorrows.

 

[safriz]

So what's missing then? The Pak equivalent of Stalin?

We got one. Maryam nawaz. Just legitimise her as a proper dictator and all good.