USA & Israel attack on Iran - 2025 - Potential War Watch Thread

Michael said:
Is China directly intervening in the situation in the Middle East? The oil issue is one of the considerations, but not the core factor. The core factor lies in the Middle East countries themselves, not in the oil issue.

The countries of the Middle East are not united at all. Even though the United States and Israel are wilfully carrying out genocide in the Middle East, the countries of the Middle East are still calculating their own interests and still blaming each other.

So why should China intervene directly? Who are we going to the Middle East to help?
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Haha yup

mulj said:
i did not expect from China to directly intervene at all, I suppose big military aid package to Iran in forms of airplanes, ships, submarines, missiles....,announced today would be more substantial but China is afraid to do it also even it would be fully justified to provide higher grade defense capabilities to their large energy supplier.
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That would give it a new problem it did not have before, ever in it's history


I am sure USA china and Israel cooperate on a lot


But I did make this point before, might this be a historical error from china? Maybe not

Every year that goes where USA is obsessing over something going on in the middle east is a year china is off the hook and can get stronger .... They are likely ok with this, in a cynical calculated way,the war is there not here, do they care if Muslim nations need rebuilding?


Also consider, how likely is it that two nuclear super powers will risk everything for war?

I mean who will really fight a proxy war like Ukraine did, against china?

Who feels really strongly to fight china? Not disagreement but risk war .....

Definitely not India.


So china is ok, keep up credible deterrent, match USA tech and keep growing
 
r3alist said:
Haha yup



That would give it a new problem it did not have before, ever in it's history


I am sure USA china and Israel cooperate on a lot


But I did make this point before, might this be a historical error from china? Maybe not

Every year that goes where USA is obsessing over something going on in the middle east is a year china is off the hook and can get stronger .... They are likely ok with this, in a cynical calculated way,the war is there not here, do they care if Muslim nations need rebuilding?


Also consider, how likely is it that two nuclear super powers will risk everything for war?

I mean who will really fight a proxy war like Ukraine did, against china?

Who feels really strongly to fight china? Not disagreement but risk war .....

Definitely not India.


So china is ok, keep up credible deterrent, match USA tech and keep growing
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Well, that approach did not save them from trade war, i am pretty sure they would be now in more comfortable position if they armed to the teeth their closest allies because it works usa armed jews and they hold in check quarter of world economy, what i want to say geo policy without military posture and relaying only on economy is like diving in see without submarine, shortly and abruptly ending is imminent due lack of oxygen.
 
Turks and their allied traitors broke the backbone of Syria and left it bare to Zionists in west and Israel.

Pulling someone out of an alliance leaves it bare to its traditional enemies. Syria was pushed out side of Russian hemisphere hence the country lost Russia's nuclear umbrella. This puts even Turkey itself in grave danger.

UnFortunately the main Focus will be on Syria and most possibly Iraq. Iran is too strong for the US war machine in this part of the world.

Turks better arm their terrorists in Syria to teeth. Israel won't leave them alone.
 
mulj said:
Well, that approach did not save them from trade war, i am pretty sure they would be now in more comfortable position if they armed to the teeth their closest allies because it works usa armed jews and they hold in check quarter of world economy, what i want to say geo policy without military posture and relaying only on economy is like diving in see without submarine, shortly and abruptly ending is imminent due lack of oxygen.
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Thats a more western line of thinking, every post from Chinese says we don't need allies or want allies, and I think that aligns to historical psyche, it's not their comfort zone

They built a big wall remember, what connects them to middle east, not religion, not race, not history, what's left?


Russians...ok orthodox Christian, some history...
Maybe Chinese they will get involved in east Asian affairs, I think that's it

Outside of that it seems mess in middle east is useful distraction, if they are speaking on Gaza it's for self interest against USA

Huntington clash of civilization I think projected basically Muslims would be like foot soldiers for Chinese

Only time will show if they made a bad move, after all USA acquiring strategic space all the time, maybe Greenland, lots of leverage
 
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They find themselves without any allies, yet the blame does not rest with Tehran, but rather with everyone else.
 
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I really hope there is not another 9-11 in the US. Tired of conspiracy theories behind the last one.
 
Iran has been 6 months away from building a nuclear bomb pretty much my entire adult life and that's over 20 years !
 
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Persian Gulf said:
well we all know where Trump can shove his 'deadlines'
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Iran have stated multiple times they wont dismantle their facilities whilst israel saying they want them dismantled. These negotiations will obviously just lead to nothing while Trump will probably just start bombing farmers in Yemen even harder to try and get a message across.
 
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A lot of stuff mysteriously blowing up or being set on fire lately inside Iran, no way its just a coincidence.
 
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A lot of stuff mysteriously blowing up or being set on fire lately inside Iran, no way its just a coincidence.
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Even if it turns out to be a cardboard factory, as you say a lot of large random fires happening all of a sudden.
 
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