PAF J-35AE - News, Updates and Discussions

[Oscar]

not before 2030/32 first will PLAAF/PLAN then it will come to PAF

This visit was not related to J-35 - issue is not whether J-20 for export but more so with PAFs willingness to absorb a watered down version of it because China is nervous now due to Pakistan’s bending over to US in current admin.

 

[m52k85]

This visit was not related to J-35 - issue is not whether J-20 for export but more so with PAFs willingness to absorb a watered down version of it because China is nervous now due to Pakistan’s bending over to US in current admin.

How do you make up this stuff? I mean its plausible yet original.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

Indians won't be laughing when it flies over New Delhi

Which one? J20 or J35? And don't lives in your fantasy world stealth doesn't mean TOTAL INVISIBILITY but reduce radar cross section, there's no way that J-20 or J35 can able to fly New Delhi

 

[maverick]

as i said in jan 2024, First operational squardon will be no later than Dec 2026. but the way the global powers are beating war drums, it might be earlier than that.

 

[Falcon26]

China ready to sell Pakistan J-20 as well as J-35s:-

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Please don’t make our German friend @Deino lose his mind.

 

[Oscar]

How do you make up this stuff? I mean its plausible yet original.

Trial and error - along with years and years of tears and fears.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

as i said in jan 2024, First operational squardon will be no later than Dec 2026. but the way the global powers are beating war drums, it might be earlier than that.

LOL, you mean April 9 2025 lol

 

[PakAl]

as i said in jan 2024, First operational squardon will be no later than Dec 2026. but the way the global powers are beating war drums, it might be earlier than that.

It seemed highly unlikely at first but China is building 6th generation planes and most likely they will start induction around 2030s. J35s are old school for China and currently in full swing, China will induct it very soon and within 5 to 7 years move on to the 6th generation, I don't see any high number induction of j35s as China is close to the 6th generation J36/J50.

 

[PakAl]

@maverick
I gave you till Dec 2028, even that sounded unbelievable until the recent testing of J35As and J36/J50 testing. I doubt China will induct a large number of J35s, the J36/J50 will be ready in 5 years.

 

[Michael]

J-35s incoming any minute now.

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There are some differences between China's Ministry of National Defense and other countries' Ministry of National Defense:

PLA is an organization independent of the State Council of China. It is loyal only to the CCP, not to the State Council of China. China's Ministry of National Defense is a subordinate institution of the State Council of China, and it has no actual control over the PLA.

There are many matters in the development and construction of the army that need to be closely related to the administrative system (State Council of China), which is one of the main responsibilities of China's Ministry of National Defense:
1. Relevant development plans, laws and regulations, national defense scientific research and production, management of national defense funds and national defense assets for national defense construction;
2. Military recruitment, veterans management, preferential treatment of military families, etc.
3. Leading and managing national defense economic mobilization, civil air defense, national defense transportation and other matters
4. Handling national defense and diplomatic affairs on behalf of the country
......
It can be simply understood that the Chinese Ministry of National Defense is responsible for handling all matters between the military system and the non-military system. But he has no power to directly intervene in the internal affairs of the military system.

The Chinese Minister of Defense is a ceremonial position, and this position itself has no actual power. If the Minister of Defense also holds other important positions in the military system (such as: member of the Central Military Commission, etc.), he will have actual power.
Dong Jun is not a member of the Central Military Commission. He was the commander of the PLA Navy, but has resigned from that position.

Therefore, his meeting with the PAF Chief of Staff was more ceremonial and had no practical value.

However, it is entirely possible that the PAF Chief of Staff will meet with other powerful Chinese officials to discuss J-10C/J-35 or other cooperation matters during his visit to China. We need to wait for further news.

 

[iblini]

@maverick
I gave you till Dec 2028, even that sounded unbelievable until the recent testing of J35As and J36/J50 testing. I doubt China will induct a large number of J35s, the J36/J50 will be ready in 5 years.
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lol, what, we even have a list?
btw, why Oscar appeared in both group.

 

[PakAl]

lol, what, we even have a list?
btw, why Oscar appeared in both group.

Yes a list it's a serious matter lol, i made an error, not sure which side he belongs to.

 

[SiliconBit (silicon0000)]

@maverick
I gave you till Dec 2028, even that sounded unbelievable until the recent testing of J35As and J36/J50 testing. I doubt China will induct a large number of J35s, the J36/J50 will be ready in 5 years.
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Your list is very vague and i told that earlier too. Your timeline have a grey period of 2029-2030. You need to clearly define timeperiod and then put people in the relevant group like:

Group 1: Induction by Dec 2026.
Group 2: Induction between Jan 2027 to Dec 2032.
Group 3: Induction after Dec 2032.

PS: If possible please update the list accordingly and Consider me in Group 2.

 

[m52k85]

Trial and error - along with years and years of tears and fears.

Thanks for not saying, "I have my sources". Others should learn (though not many fanboys left these days).

Coming back to the topic, watered down version is pretty much standard these days.

 

[SiliconBit (silicon0000)]

This visit was not related to J-35 - issue is not whether J-20 for export but more so with PAFs willingness to absorb a watered down version of it because China is nervous now due to Pakistan’s bending over to US in current admin.

In my opinion, the Chinese approach to work is somewhat different. Their designs tend to be modular, which allows systems to be integrated based on specific requirements. They also manage a critical technology list at the smallest level, controlling what is restricted and what can be incorporated into a system. Therefore, I see it less as China 'watering down' technology and more as providing customized options tailored to requirements, with the exception of certain critical technologies. China was likely aware from the outset of the risk of tech leaks via sources in Pakistan, so I doubt such sensitive technology was ever offered to begin with.

Of course, this is just my speculation. I'm not an expert and don't have any sources in this field, by any means.