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[Ё-МАЁ]

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The Secret History of the War in Ukraine (Published 2025)

This is the untold story of America’s hidden role in Ukrainian military operations against Russia’s invading armies.

www.nytimes.com

(Behind a paywall)

Is that a secret to you?

 

[Davey Crockett]

Is that a secret to you?

Of course not.

 

[Ё-МАЁ]

Of course not.

Eighty per cent of NATO is fully involved in the war . I said it right away, you can't see only NATO soldiers in the trenches. And all the other agencies are fully involved.

 

[Yellow is Okay]

You can have soldiers from NATO countries fighting as mercenaries, but at that point, they're just that, mercenaries. They're not acting on behalf of NATO. And let's be honest, both Russia and Ukraine have foreign fighters from all over the world involved. The real focus, should be on the casualty numbers. If NATO troops were actually fighting on the front lines, we would be seeing a completely different narrative. Mass deaths can't be hidden. Parents, families, the media, someone would be raising their voices if hundreds or thousands of NATO soldiers were suddenly disappearing or dying without explanation.

NATO's role has been what they've publicly stated: logistics, equipment, intel, and maybe some training support, not front-line combat. On paper and in practice, they're backing Ukraine, not directly fighting Russia. And in democracies, it's just not possible to secretly send a massive number of troops into a war zone without the public catching on. It doesn't add up.

 

[Yommie]

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[Ё-МАЁ]

You can have soldiers from NATO countries fighting as mercenaries, but at that point, they're just that, mercenaries. They're not acting on behalf of NATO. And let's be honest, both Russia and Ukraine have foreign fighters from all over the world involved. The real focus, should be on the casualty numbers. If NATO troops were actually fighting on the front lines, we would be seeing a completely different narrative. Mass deaths can't be hidden. Parents, families, the media, someone would be raising their voices if hundreds or thousands of NATO soldiers were suddenly disappearing or dying without explanation.

NATO's role has been what they've publicly stated: logistics, equipment, intel, and maybe some training support, not front-line combat. On paper and in practice, they're backing Ukraine, not directly fighting Russia. And in democracies, it's just not possible to secretly send a massive number of troops into a war zone without the public catching on. It doesn't add up.

Well, to be fair.
NATO headquarters ... are fully engaged in the war. You can't see their involvement, but everyone realises they are there.
NATO Intelligence (it is a NATO structure, isn't it?) is fully involved.
Training centres are also fully involved. Several tens of thousands of AFU soldiers are being trained continuously even now.
The most modern NATO weapons are supplied in unlimited quantities. Weapons are actively collected and supplied to Ukraine from all over the world. This is also NATO. And its transport to Ukraine is also carried out by NATO equipment.
There are no troops, so what are you talking about?
I didn't say that. NATO said it. You should judge not by what they say, but by how they act. Chile is not participating, that's why it doesn't need to take any action because of the events in Ukraine. Mexico is the same. But NATO countries panicked sharply and became concerned about their troops and started to allocate a large share of GDP for defence. They are trying to send their troops to Ukraine. Because they lost there.
To be honest with you.

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[Ё-МАЁ]

You can have soldiers from NATO countries fighting as mercenaries, but at that point, they're just that, mercenaries. They're not acting on behalf of NATO. And let's be honest, both Russia and Ukraine have foreign fighters from all over the world involved. The real focus, should be on the casualty numbers. If NATO troops were actually fighting on the front lines, we would be seeing a completely different narrative. Mass deaths can't be hidden. Parents, families, the media, someone would be raising their voices if hundreds or thousands of NATO soldiers were suddenly disappearing or dying without explanation.

NATO's role has been what they've publicly stated: logistics, equipment, intel, and maybe some training support, not front-line combat. On paper and in practice, they're backing Ukraine, not directly fighting Russia. And in democracies, it's just not possible to secretly send a massive number of troops into a war zone without the public catching on. It doesn't add up.

And on the subject of whether or not you can or can't hide it.
You can hide everything! No one in the West knows or has heard about the fact that the AFU has been shelling Donbass continuously for 8 years, and no one knows how many children have died as a result. And if I bring facts about it even on this forum, I am accused of lying and propaganda.

 

[Viet]

Not bad
Ukraine military industrial complex makes 40 percent of all weapons it needs on the front.

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[Viet]

Not good
Ukraine army decimates less russians than replacement rate 1,500 men a day.

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[Viet]

Next EU sanctions package on russian hooligans and rapists coming
Enjoy

EU Foreign Affairs Council: military support to Ukraine and 17th package of sanctions against Russia - EU NEIGHBOURS east

Work has started on a 17th package of sanctions against Russia focusing on the shadow fleet and other elements, EU High Representative Kaja Kallas announced after the European Foreign Affairs Council, convened on 14 April in Luxembourg. The European Foreign Affairs Council also discussed the...

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[Yommie]

Next EU sanctions package on russian hooligans and rapists coming
Enjoy

EU Foreign Affairs Council: military support to Ukraine and 17th package of sanctions against Russia - EU NEIGHBOURS east

Work has started on a 17th package of sanctions against Russia focusing on the shadow fleet and other elements, EU High Representative Kaja Kallas announced after the European Foreign Affairs Council, convened on 14 April in Luxembourg. The European Foreign Affairs Council also discussed the...

euneighbourseast.eu

Russians don't care. China supplies all the cars and consumer electronics Russians need.