Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates

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I don't buy the 'hogwash' theory. India could have pulled its ambassador out of Pakistan, could have gone to the UNSC, could have even severed diplomatic ties, could have stopped all trade. A treaty like IWT which has stood the test of testy times for 65 years is suspended over a relatively minor incident where India has yet to provide any evidence of official Pakistani help to yesterday's attack shows something else is going on.

What law? There is no law left. It is a jungle out there. There is no UNSC which is relevant. There is no ICC/ICJ which is relevant.

Every tom, dick and harry knows that suspending IWT will not have any effect in the near future rather than a symbolic gesture. So I call it a hogwash. TBH, I was expecting some completely different type of response, far severe ones. But it appears GoI is no mood to engage in a way, which will effect it's economic growth. Rather it has chosen a different path.

As for providing evidences, I think that time had come and went by. GoI will not pursue that line of diplomacy anymore IMO. And I must reiterate, only imbecile conspiracy theorists can think and shout that yesterday was a false flag operation. Were local people involved? Absolutely yes. But others were complicit by deciding to keep their eyes closed, if not supporting covertly, to the so called non state actors.
 
Brothers ...Indian ministers now asking to strike military installations across the boarder .....Pak media is also now openning up.....so full jangi mahol ban raha hy
That will be stupidity of fullest order if India attacks Pak military installations, we are already ahead of Pakistan and just trying to play catch up with China and these tariffs might had given us the leveling playing field, it will like shooting in the foot.
 
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I'm of the belief, India will huff and puff, and do nothing else. Right now, there's no appetite in India right now to attack Pakistan again. Besides, There's a reason why India hasn't publicly outright blamed Pakistan this time around.
India has suspended IWT now, what do mean India hasn't publicly outright blamed Pakistan this time around??
 
Every tom, dick and harry knows that suspending IWT will not have any effect in the near future rather than a symbolic gesture. So I call it a hogwash. TBH, I was expecting some completely different type of response, far severe ones. But it appears GoI is no mood to engage in a way, which will effect it's economic growth. Rather it has chosen a different path.

As for providing evidences, I think that time had come and went by. GoI will not pursue that line of diplomacy anymore IMO. And I must reiterate, only imbecile conspiracy theorists can think and shout that yesterday was a false flag operation. Were local people involved? Absolutely yes. But others were complicit by deciding to keep their eyes closed, if not supporting covertly, to the so called non state actors.
Exactly, People should not get fired up, the best course of action for India will be to grow and reach at such a level that no one will dare to repeat such acts in future, and we are at least 20 years behind in achieving that goal.
 
That will be stupidity of fullest order if India attacks Pak military installations, we are already ahead of Pakistan and just trying to play catch up with China and these tariffs might had given us the leveling playing field, it will like shooting in the foot.
If war errupts, we would love to drag you back to our level......😁
 
Exactly what Chinese strategic investment would they care about enough so as to jump in an Indo-Pak military conflict (should one break out, that is)

Why would they take action on water downstream to India in the first place ? To help Pakistan ? They don't play like the American cowboys, besides, even they know to sit this one out.. these are 3 nuclear weapon states we talking about.

90% or something of Chinese civilization is on their far east coast anyway, they are more concerned about the USFK/USFJ in the area, oh, and Taiwan.

Sorry to say, man, but it is kinda telling.. so many from your side of the fence screaming "bu-but CHINAAA !"

If S were to HTF with this one, they're sitting this one out, they're too smart to get involved.


If this treaty ceasing has actual existential effect on parts of Pakistan, let's suppose....then china will involve itself, that's not a leap as china we know sits on top

But that could all be moot, it depends what effect the treaty ending has, what measures Pakistan can take to mitigate any effect, we are just talking in the extrema here....as usual.

If any effect does not materialise or mitigated then of course china is not relevant
 
PM Shehbaz Sharif will chair National Security Committee's session tomorrow
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Defence Minister Khawaja Asif said on Wednesday that a session of the National Security Committee (NSC) has been summoned on Thursday to decide on an appropriate response to the steps taken by New Delhi following the attack in Indian Illegally Occupied Jammu and Kashmir's Pahalgam area.

The attack in IIOJK killed at least 26 people and injured 17 others when gunmen attacked a popular tourist spot. India, earlier today, took several measures against Pakistan, including the suspension of the Indus Water Treaty and banning Pakistani nationals from entering its territory.

"A session of the National Security Committee will be held under the chair of Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif," said Asif in a statement, adding that decisions will be taken to give "an appropriate response to the Indian steps".

'False flag operation'​

In a separate statement today, the defence minister said that Pakistan condemns terrorism wherever it occurs in the world and India should investigate the Pahalgam incident as merely levelling allegations won't absolve them of responsibility.


"India's allegation against Pakistan for the Pahalgam incident is inappropriate," said Asif while speaking to a private news channel. He added that Pakistan is the most affected country by terrorism and has been facing the menace for decades.

He questioned how Pakistan could promote terrorism, being a victim of the threat itself.

"There should be no ambiguity that we strongly condemn terrorism," the defence czar said; however, he added that a "false flag operation" could not be ruled out.

Meanwhile, Asif also clarified that Pakistan was in a position to give a befitting response to India [in case of any misadventure].

"People remember what happened to Abhinandan," the minister said, referring to the Indian pilot who had been arrested after Pakistan shot down an Indian MiG-21 during Operation Swift Retort in February 2019.

He also accused New Delhi of sponsoring terrorists in Balochistan and "giving asylum and medical facilities to separatists".

Asif added that evidence proved India's connection with the outlawed militant outfit, Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP). The minister further said that several Indian consulates in Afghanistan had been facilitating terrorism in Pakistan.

Attack 'orchestrated by Indian army': PML-N senator​

Senator Irfan Siddiqui, Pakistan Muslim League-N (PML-N) senior leader and head of the party’s parliamentary group in the Senate, strongly condemned the recent incident in IIOJK, calling it a false flag operation orchestrated by the Indian army.

Speaking to the media after the launching ceremony of a book held at Alhamra Hall today, Siddiqui said that India had a long-standing history of staging such incidents to malign other countries, especially during visits by foreign dignitaries.

“India has forcefully occupied the lands of Kashmiris and has been involved in their killings. Moreover, it has consistently engaged in acts of terrorism within Pakistan,” he stated, adding that Pakistani authorities have apprehended several Indian spies over the years.

India has an estimated 500,000 soldiers permanently deployed in the territory. In recent years, the authorities have promoted the mountainous region as a holiday destination, both for skiing in winter and to escape the sweltering summer heat elsewhere in India.

Around 3.5 million tourists visited Kashmir in 2024, mostly domestic visitors.

India revoked Kashmir's special status in 2019, splitting the state into two federally administered territories — Jammu and Kashmir, and Ladakh.
 
Brothers ...Indian ministers now asking to strike military installations across the boarder .....Pak media is also now openning up.....so full jangi mahol ban raha hy
wait till tomorrow Indian Assets are being moved.
 
India will be balkanized before the end of this century. This monstrosity which the British created will collapse and there will be everlasting peace in the subcontinent.
Dream On Bro , the chances of Pakistan reducing to pieces are much much higher in the current situation than India. We have our differences in India but we more tend towards talk first and sticks later and to be honest when India and Pakistan became independent every rational person would have placed their bet on Pakistan, a rather coherent society, more forward looking leaders like Jinnah, most of irrigated lands and most richest provinces of India at that time (Punjab and Bengal) went to Pakistan but still see the condition where both countries are.
 
wait till tomorrow Indian Assets are being moved.
2008 all over again? Tu aa. Nehi tu aa pehle! I guess it suits India as it can sustain the economic pressure of a build up better now.
 
As I said above: CIA's huge budget is not to just eat apple pies.
Questions to Indians: Who benefits from the latest strife in Kashmir? Certainly not Pakistan!! Pakistan is starting to turn a corner where the political situation is stabilizing and the economy is also slighting better. Pakistan's indicators, minus the violence in Pakistan's western regions, are getting better.
But I don't think India is going to benefit either from an escalation with Pakistan. Forget nukes, even a conventional war against Pakistan is unwinnable and vice versa unless 'victory' is defined as one side takes other's Kashmir AND is able to fortify and hold onto that, which is a toll order. Israel, with all the backing of America, is unable to subdue tiny Gaza, as an example.
Watch for what the Americans are going to say and do. Maybe J D Vance will convince Indians to buy a huge number of F-35 after this! Cha Ching!

You give too much credit for radical Islamic terrorists to think they have any strategic thinking. I don't think the attack was carried out due to some overt instruction from pakistani state apparatus, with some strategic objective in mind. When you send brainwashed lunatics into Kashmir, sometimes they do lunatic things that are counter productive for your long term strategic interest. RSS always wanted to cancel article 370, and Indus water treaty, and now they took the chance terrorists presented in a silver platter, and the international community isn't going to blame India for it.
 
I would like to see Imran khan in front of GHQ in Pindi holding Asif Munir’s pants
With a crowd of a million people Chanting his name and waving the Insaf ka Parcham

And we want to see Modi the butcher of Gujrat to be hung publicly at the red fort

Partition of India is inevitable,, you can see the poison swirling inside India, the agitation of Indian Muslims, the hatred and enmity between Indian Muslims and the sanghi masses

It's a matter of time before it all cracks
 
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