Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates

[Persian Gulf]

Ivt ending is potentially existential to Pakistan,if not now then in future, what agenda is beyond this?

But sure, say the same thing again and again

I doubt any Iranian knows what "Ivt" is but I hope we can mediate between Pakistan and India to help resolve these issues and avoid escalation.

 

[PakAl]

it seems the indian population has reacted very strongly to this and is out for blood

but they should be guided by wisdom and patience rather than anger to avoid misdirecting that anger

That's usual business for Indian media. India cannot take Pakistan and Pakistan cannot take India, both militaries know this very well.

 

[r3alist]

Wrong:

India votes in favour of UN General Assembly resolution demanding immediate, permanent ceasefire in Gaza

India supports UN resolutions for immediate ceasefire in Gaza, release of hostages, and peaceful settlement of Palestinian conflict.

www.thehindu.com

I am sure they have better reading comprehension and understanding of international relations than you. if "economic support" for Israel is your benchmark then you should boycott Turkey and USA and UAE and the entire West before you complain about Iran

There were numerous resolutions, you are in love with one

Talk about these then....


April 2024: India abstained from voting for a UN Human Rights Council resolution that called for a suspension of arms sales to Israel.

September 2024: India abstained from from voting for a UNGA resolution that for an end to Israel’s occupation of Gaza and the West Bank within 12 months. By mid-September 2024, the death toll in Gaza was at the very least 41,000 people, including 16,500 children.

Then this

India exports rockets, explosives to Israel amid Gaza war, documents reveal

Documents seen by Al Jazeera and company statements suggest Israel is receiving Indian weapons as it wages war on Gaza.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[Meengla]

So our **** friends who were so happily posting US tweets of solidarity…
Why are you suddenly quiet on American neutrality?
What happened to your diplomatic pressure? The yanks want nothing to do with your narrative

J. D. Vance: "I just went to India and they didn't buy 200 of our F-35 and even my Indian wife's charm couldn't convince them. F Them!'

 

[mythbuster]

Ayub was the typical Pakistani idiot general who was blinded by his racism and machismo. He rejected the Chinese offer in 1962 to take Kashmir and, instead, made Pakistani into an American slave.

Pak was not ready for a war at that stage .....we were getting equipment from the Korean war ( it was useless for Americans )......it takes time to train troops with new equipment

 

[r3alist]

I doubt any Iranian knows what "Ivt" is but I hope we can mediate between Pakistan and India to help resolve these issues and avoid escalation.

We are talking to you not Iran


You read the thread but missed the last 100 pages on ivt

You celebrate one Indian resolution vote.....errr what about the rest

 

[Developereo]

Nothing is going to happen.

Military planners on both sides know this won't end well for either side.

The biggest question on both governments' mind is how to handle this so both sides can pacify their domestic audience and neither side loses face.

Needless to say, major powers are already involved behind the scenes.

 

[SaadH]

Ayub boldly walked into Kashmir with our whole army. We did well in 65 until the US embargoed weapons and supplies and ammo. We held the upper hand. Ayub laid the foundation of Pak/ China relationship.

All we got from Zia was terrorism, jihadiism, Afghani, heroine and wahabbiyat.

Aur vo dosra erthagrul bun ker betth gya apni tasbeeh lay kar. 'Osama is our hero'...?.......teesri shadi kar ra hae at 70 years of age?

Saaray mulk k lund lugga diye hain!

Well I wouldn't expect an Iranian partisan to be impressed by Zia. You stay in the Mushrikiya camp and I will be happy in the wahabbiyat camp. Lakum Deenakum Walay yadeen...

BTW, terrorism wasn't a problem in Pakistan for 20 years after Zia's death until anther khooni liberal Mushy "how low should I lie down master Bush" poked the hornet's nest....

 

[Meengla]

Let's not engage about Iran vs Pakistan relationship topic in this thread. Someday, I'd disabuse our Persian friend here of his ideas about India and Pakistan but this is not the thread for it. Suffice to say: He lacks good info on it. I know these things from the Iran-Iraq war of the 80s.
Just drop it from this thread; I have resisted responding.

 

[Pradotlc]

When you have zero legs to stand on that is all you can do.

True…

Historically speaking that has always happened except in 2019 where PAF’s brilliant counter strike stunned India..

but also exposed a problem with Su30s ie thier Israeli ECM and Russian radar/ missiles .. they were literally sitting duck had PAF continued.. that was the reason they rushed to buy rafeles

 

[SaadH]

Bhai China was a third world country in 1962!

They were in even worse shape than us.

China fought the might of US/UN forces to a standstill in Korea just a few years before '62...granted it was no super duper universe power like Iran, but militarily it was light years ahead of both India an Pakistan combined.

 

[Persian Gulf]

There were numerous resolutions, you are in love with one

Talk about these then....


April 2024: India abstained from voting for a UN Human Rights Council resolution that called for a suspension of arms sales to Israel.

September 2024: India abstained from from voting for a UNGA resolution that for an end to Israel’s occupation of Gaza and the West Bank within 12 months. By mid-September 2024, the death toll in Gaza was at the very least 41,000 people, including 16,500 children.

Then this

India exports rockets, explosives to Israel amid Gaza war, documents reveal

Documents seen by Al Jazeera and company statements suggest Israel is receiving Indian weapons as it wages war on Gaza.

www.aljazeera.com

lets look at overall statistics rather than individual cases then. the numbers speak for themselves and they do not support your narrative.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

'The Print' is much better than most Indian channels. But every Indian channel has to pander to certain narrative or else. Even in this video, General Panag is alluding to how he himself faces some harsh criticism for his truthful speaking.
Anyway, the interview is a gem about not only what it says but what it says without saying it explicitly. And you can see from the Comments by some Indians themselves to that video. Every word being said by both is worth paying attention to: Both gentlemen are careful with words but they have tried to portray the reality. At one point, the host Praveen clearly admits that the Indian Balakot strike in 2019 was a failure while the General admits that the '1.5 km' surgical strike in Pakistan 2016 across the LOC was basically a failure!

Theprint is pretty much sanghi outlet. Even though these two are telling truth but their editorial have been lying about SirGkal strikes for years, basically Modi mouthpiece without Arnab like noise.

Even these 2 were careful in their words.

 

[mythbuster]

Wrong:

India votes in favour of UN General Assembly resolution demanding immediate, permanent ceasefire in Gaza

India supports UN resolutions for immediate ceasefire in Gaza, release of hostages, and peaceful settlement of Palestinian conflict.

www.thehindu.com

I am sure they have better reading comprehension and understanding of international relations than you. if "economic support" for Israel is your benchmark then you should boycott Turkey and USA and UAE and the entire West before you complain about Iran

Forget this mumbo jumbo of International relation, just keep one thing in mind ... India is not your friend and will never be.... Pakistan with all its problems and mess all around is the only country in the world who will probably come to your help when you have existential threat

 

[SaadH]

Ivt ending is potentially existential to Pakistan,if not now then in future, what agenda is beyond this?

But sure, say the same thing again and again

IWT will be existential if the current lumber 1 duffers deem it to be, in the past they've compromised on every red line with India, latest being surrendering Kashmir to Modi under Bajwa's exceptional vision...

There's no reason the current lot won't do the same given the right payoff...