Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates

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Neither side is interested


Saying both are equal in so ridiculously self defeating

Better to stay quiet and stop gaslighting everyone else that their reaction is irrational.
well we can only offer to mediate to help resolve problems between our friends (india and Pakistan)

if they don't want to take our offer, that is their prerogative
 
well we can only offer to mediate to help resolve problems between our friends (india and Pakistan)

if they don't want to take our offer, that is their prerogative

Sorry bro we don't need 'mediation' with them. They are hell bent on destruction, only one way to deal with them.
We will handle this, only close allies needed.
Iran is a good friend, but it's relationship with India doesn't help much here.
 
Sorry bro we don't 'mediation' with them. They are hell bent on destruction, only one way to deal with them.
We will handle this, only close allies needed.
Iran is a friend, but it's relationship with India doesn't help much here.
a mediator must have good relations with both

and you have negotiated with them many many times before ... I suspect this will end with diplomacy too. at least we should hope it does
 
a mediator must have good relations with both

and you have negotiated with them many many times before ... I suspect this will end with diplomacy too. at least we should hope it does

No I don't disagree with your premise it's correct. However they just see it as a sign of weakness. Only steel is needed for the time being.
Regarding negotiations of the past, that really hasn't happened much since their Hindutva governments came. So there is no point.
 
Very Bad news for India.
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IMO, they should have kept this under wraps and given India the surprise of all surprises upon any aggression. Their Raphals, SUPA Sukoi & TAYJA would have been falling out the sky left right and centre and they would have had a collective GD Bakshi fit with a BP of 250+...LOL! Then Modi would have come and said Agar F-35 HOTA.......
 
a mediator must have good relations with both

and you have negotiated with them many many times before ... I suspect this will end with diplomacy too. at least we should hope it does
Thanks for the offer , unfortunately, Iran doesn't have the clout to play any significant role.
 
Turkey imports $450 million of goods from Pakistan

Turkey imports $8 billion of goods from India
Trade volume is not always everything. Indian Trade with China runs into hundreds of billions, but still China managed to capture indian occupied territories in Ladakh. And as of today still hoping to grab the entire state of Arunachal Pradesh.

Pakistan and Turkey are long-time strategic friends, and time has always proven their commitment.
 
No I don't disagree with your premise it's correct. However they just see it as a sign of weakness. Only steel is needed for the time being.
Regarding negotiations of the past, that really hasn't happened much since their Hindutva governments came. So there is no point.

Pre-BJP, you still couldn't manage a solution even with meek Indian governments at the helm for decades. So you really can't blame Indians for repeatedly voting the BJP into power in many ways, it's your actions that have fueled the rise and consolidation of Hindutva.
 
You’re probably right. But given that we had this mindset for so long, shouldn't Pakistan have used the opportunity to negotiate something reasonable and work towards a better future for everyone? Unfortunately, that's not the path your country chose and after the lessons of the past few decades, we’ve had no choice but to change tack.


No half measures here, it's all or nothing
 
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