Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates

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mythbuster said:
Bro , we are talking all out war
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I know. And I have never advocated that in my entire presence on PDF.
But I don't trust those sitting in New Delhi's corridors of power because they take their inspirations from the Zionists. Anything is possible with them and anything is possible in the increasingly lawless world.
I didn't think there would be another major war on the European continent but that has happened. I didn't think Israel would be able to grab territories in Syria, but that has happened. So it is entirely possible the Modi regime will take the 'next step' after annexing Kashmir to finally use water as weapon against Pakistan unless there is a serious Pakistani pushback when the time comes.
 
vasanthm said:
That’s all way too far in the future. For now, I guess everything will go back to normal once the tea is served and the next batch of memes drops.
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That's a bad scenario

Forgetting it ever happened over time


Then as it's happening you will forget how you got there
 
Maarkhoor said:
Major Gobar Arya aka peeping tom who was dismissed from service for peeping into his C.O daughter washroom start abusing Iran.

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show this to Irani members, buhat unko India ki lipa poti kerni thi, 2 second mai kutte wali kerdi is 2 takke ke lordo ne.
 
mythbuster said:
No sir .....
It's the other way around.....India will be denied access to the Persian gulf , no supply of most essential commodity ' oil ' .
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Obviously too have some cards in our hand but denying oil to India for sustainable period is difficult.

India could import oil in directly from any third country situated at her eastern side.

Therefore if it's up to my I would target their energy economic infrastructure in aggressive manner rater to put our assets as gatekeeper in sea to deny energy flow to india.

Keep in mind this time India is strategically targeting economy of Pakistan, water and trade routes therefore we MUST raise the economic and political cost of their adventure at all cost.

If they want to strangle Pakistan economically we must reciprocate them with multiple times
 
Meengla said:
But this is where I differ with most here from both Indian and Pakistani members: I think if push comes to shove, Pakistan should unleash irregulars and regulars in huge numbers into Indian Occupied Kashmir with enough air and artillery cover and destroy Indian capacities there while working with the alienated groups in IOK. But don't launch an assault into India proper except tit for tat missile attacks. By putting the Shimla Agreement in Abeyance, Pakistan is not bound by the 'sanctity of the LOC'. This way, it will be another Operation Gibraltar 1965 but this time the consequences for Pakistan's inaction are too dire and this time the locals in IOK will cooperate. As long as the conflict is basically a guerilla war limited to Kashmir, there is lower risk of a nuclear escalation from both sides.
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The Operation Gibraltar 1965 was premature as there was not much local support in IOK for the Pakistani invasion. Kargil 1999 was a blunder by Pakistan and I even consider that a historic folly because Vajpayee, representing hardline Hinduism, had in his old age decided to live with Pakistan and put himself in history as the peace maker.

But what we have in India right now is an extremism I didn't expect in a so-called 'Dharmic' society like India and that extremism and militarism is only increasing plus it has certain support from powers from faraway with regard to China containment. I don't think Pakistanis should ignore the Indian over-reaction over the IWT and Pakistan should be ready for a do-or-die confrontation. And circumstances favor Pakistan more than they favor India for a lower-key war of attrition if push comes to shove.
 
r3alist said:
I agree no immediate war


But As long as a hostile nation, much bigger , has the water blackmail option over you and has announced it, then you have the defining choice as a nation to sort it out or accept slow coercion future generations

Water is scarce, population is growing, temperature rising

Before the Gaza annihilation you had over a decade a whole host of strangulation tactics employed before the final act that made the population dependent and at Israels mercy, you are literally being told a possibility, things are cooking in the west flank


Sorting it out can and should also mean improving your own infrastructure, responding persistently and cleverly diplomatically ......and this is all underpinned and made credible with a very serious and credible military response and capability

It's not time for a gun alone, but a properly planned out civic society that abides by a social contract with the state, and each other
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Bravo. Magnificent post.

We MUST stop eating the innards of one another, first and foremost.

Surely it is clear now to Pakistanis of all political persuasions that the biggest defence we can muster is that forged through absolute unity and absolute rejection of the corrosive force of corruption. The age for showing off our shiny vehicles and security details has come to an abrupt end. The potential for greatness lingers restlessly within us, perhaps it burns strongest in the souls of the hard working common man, the front line soldier who risks his all every day, the parents who strive for their children, the children who educate themselves so diligently - perhaps, therein are the examples that we should all look towards.

Pakistan, the concept, was forged out of a desire for social justice, an ironclad resolve, and the intelligent advancement of a cohesive national identity. This concept can only truly be assured and underwritten as you have said: by way of a contract with our nation state, with our fellow citizens, and within ourselves.
 
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Master Chief said:
Bravo. Magnificent post.

We MUST stop eating the innards of one another, first and foremost.

Surely it is clear now to Pakistanis of all political persuasions that the biggest defence we can muster is that forged through absolute unity and absolute rejection of the corrosive force of corruption. The age for showing off our shiny vehicles and security details has come to an abrupt end. The potential for greatness lingers restlessly within us, perhaps it burns strongest in the souls of the hard working common man, the front line soldier who risks his all every day, the parents who strive for their children, the children who educate themselves so diligently - perhaps, therein are the examples that we should all look towards.

Pakistan, the concept, was forged out of a desire for social justice, an ironclad resolve, and the intelligent advancement of a cohesive national identity. This concept can only truly be assured and underwritten as you have said: by way of a contract with our nation state, with our fellow citizens, and within ourselves.
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We should have David Attenborough read that out to a dramatic (((Hans Zimmer))) score.
 
So the first Indian attack has been reppelled successfully.
 

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vasanthm said:
341 pages 5 days 😊, has any other topic on PDF ever had this rate of growth?
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The 2019 Swift Retort thread when a Su30MKI and Mig-21 of the IAF was shot down and the IAF bagged one of their own Mi helicopters. It was when the IAF missed, and the PAF did not. And of course, some 'fantastic' Tea was served.
 
HRK said:
Obviously too have some cards in our hand but denying oil to India for sustainable period is difficult.

India could import oil in directly from any third country situated at her eastern side.

Therefore if it's up to my I would target their energy economic infrastructure in aggressive manner rater to put our assets as gatekeeper in sea to deny energy flow to india.

Keep in mind this time India is strategically targeting economy of Pakistan, water and trade routes therefore we MUST raise the economic and political cost of their adventure at all cost.

If they want to strangle Pakistan economically we must reciprocate them with multiple times
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Couple of things....there are no India friendly oil producers in her east....2, ..oil blockade and infrastructure destruction can be done simultaneously
 
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