Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates

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Moeed doing a great job here
Raises all the right points firmly and eloquently
Karan probes and challenge's the same
We need more of these dialogue's in this spirit, they both raised their national perspectives persistently and comprehensibly
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Considering the very low standard of Indian channels, Karan Thapar is one of the best. Of course he is going to emphasize Indian POV but he is an angel compared with most others. And Moeed Yousuf is a gem.
Thanks for the video.
 
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I now draw a line. No religious and no more crap on this thread guys.
I want a fluid debate and input from both sides including Indians. That doesnt mean Indian members use this to step over the mark

Regards............
Ok apologies, I didn’t see this before I posted
 
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Lmao, If the IAF crossed the LOC into AJK at any point this would be global news because a rafale would be downed by Air defence quite fast
 
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first one is scary...
 
Guys. This is unconfirmed so keep salt with you but multiple sources are claiming that j10c had a close call with raffles as they achieved lock on one of the four. 2 vs 4 ship formations.
Is there any way Indians could benefit n immediate term from ELINT?

Additionally, the data product from the SPECTRA sensors is of very high quality, so that the system can be used for the gathering of Elint (electronic intelligence).

Pop-up threats can be compared against the threat library, which can be updated with new information. The product of SPECTRA is also recorded and can be downloaded upon the aircraft’s return to base for more detailed analysis in the ground-based support centre. In this way master threat libraries can be updated, and revised data files produced for subsequent missions.”
 
I agree, the best chance for a peaceful settlement was likely during the Congress years or even Vajpayee’s tenure, when there was genuine effort from the Indian side to move forward. Unfortunately, certain groups in Pakistan seemed to believe they could extract more by holding out for an 'all or nothing' outcome, which ultimately helped neither side. Today, with India’s growing economic weight and shifting global dynamics, there’s understandably less urgency to revisit old proposals. Diplomacy is never off the table, but it requires sincerity, mutual respect, and realistic expectations and at the moment, that seems distant. Perhaps only after both countries face enough setbacks will there be the political will to genuinely resolve this, hopefully without clinging to maximalist positions.

Much truth here, but also no room for reducing tensions now

Now if you declare this now, as your entire nation has, then whatever follows will have it's root in this position of Indias

Remember that you have released a certain genie out with the rhetoric that post Gaza will awaken people in a way you don't comprehend as you always chose to Gaza this differently and out of step from the rest of the world
 
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He is not claiming the attack in Pulwarna 2019 on Indian soldiers but using 'Pulwarna' as a generic reference to not only that attack but also the subsequent events such as Indian strike in Balakot and Pakistan then shooting down Abhinandan fighter jet. He is saying 'after Pulwarna we went into India to beat them up'. Maybe slight wrong choice of words for brevity's sake.
Anyway, no one cares in today's world even if he would directly admit all the attacks in India. The world has too many other worries. Pakistan and India and their respective narratives are way down the priority lists unless a major war starts.
 
你说得对,他们不会做任何超出其国家利益的事情。所以巴基斯坦必须确保这仍然是他们的国家利益来支持我们。这意味着我们需要自我改革,以便我们仍然是一个值得合作的伙伴。我们需要修复我们的经济,并为他们提供帮助我们发展的机会,例如。
国家之间只有利益,这是西方的观点。我们中国注重国家利益,也重视真正的友谊。one two look
 
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