Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates

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Musings said:
Are you retard mode?
This aint no PS5 game - this is for real. Wives daughters and mothers will lose loved ones and you want 2 nuke nations to "test" **** sake man get a grip and stop thinking this is Fortnite........
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We don't have any other option

We need to do something to stop these attacks
 
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Aziqbal said:
Could we have this kind of take going ?

The Pakistan military establishment is playing with the sentiments of its citizens by playing army songs and singing and dancing victory parades against India

Good well done , but with an army of 1.4 million men and over 300 nuclear warheads capable to be delivered by land , sea and air we didn’t even get a peep out of these generals for helping Gaza and Palestine

And Western nations pride themselves on air superiority it’s not like Pakistan does not have an Air Force , they have a very capable air force which can reach far beyond Pakistans borders

I hope there is no war , war is not good for a poor bankrupt nation like Pakistan who struggling to get enough power to its power stations

Pakistan military establishment is just trying to regain the trust of its people by playing this propaganda

And the Indian government is doing EXACTLY the same with its Hindutva supporters
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The situation is different during war-time. This is imminent threat from India if we go by the Indian channels and the international media.
 
Prognostications said:
You guys are saying nothing will happen

But you are mobilizing and exercising

So what is the best case scenario
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PDF members are not Pakistan army, if a neighbouring nations makes threat, an army will do what it has to do, this is why our army is fully ready to respond. Indians claim we will attack Pakistan, then some say no we will not, then say it will be surgical attack and some say limited strike, attack from Afghanistan, now latest info is long range attack. Both nations know Indians invasion or attack is zero, but yes India can easily do limited strike, Pakistan can also do the same, we have 1000km of borders, it's not difficult.
 
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Aziqbal said:
Could we have this kind of take going ?

The Pakistan military establishment is playing with the sentiments of its citizens by playing army songs and singing and dancing victory parades against India

Good well done , but with an army of 1.4 million men and over 300 nuclear warheads capable to be delivered by land , sea and air we didn’t even get a peep out of these generals for helping Gaza and Palestine

And Western nations pride themselves on air superiority it’s not like Pakistan does not have an Air Force , they have a very capable air force which can reach far beyond Pakistans borders

I hope there is no war , war is not good for a poor bankrupt nation like Pakistan who struggling to get enough power to its power stations

Pakistan military establishment is just trying to regain the trust of its people by playing this propaganda

And the Indian government is doing EXACTLY the same with its Hindutva supporters
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Dude we all hate what is happening in Gaza and everyone wants to help but there is nothing at all that Pakistan Army can do for Gaza. Not because we do not want to, but because it is logistically and practically impossible in any way at all.

Gaza is surrounded by Egypt & Jordan from South/East who have peace pacts with Israel and then there is Syria/Lebanon at North who are war torn countries and Syria is a battleground between Russia/USA. Turkey which is right next door and a major military power cannot do anything to help them, let alone Pakistan form 5K Miles away.

How can Pakistan send its planes/missiles/ships/weapons of any kind to Gaza when none of the countries surrounding Gaza/Israel will allow it. Jordan even brought down Iranian missiles when Iran tried to help and Egypt is blockading southern borders of Gaza. Should Pakistan violate the airpaces of Egypt or Jordan, just to hardly reach Israel with no fuel left and get stuck down by Iron Dome ? Or Jump into the war zone of Syria / Lebanon ? There is no point in complaining about this issue to Pakistan's Army when nobody can reach Gaza in the first place.
 
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Pingle said:
Some people instead of praying for avoiding the war planning strategies.....

Atleast Indian members are talking some peace but some highly educated pakistani members are advocating to bomb Indian dams with JDAMs or nuclear cruise missiles.....

Have you lost your minds???

If Pakistan nukes or bombs dam with even conventional weapons then there is a more risk of Pakistani landmass going under nuclear radioactive flood waters..... if conventional then also it floods will cause more damage to Pakistan.....

That's why they say don't throw stone on someone's glass house if your house is made of glass.....

Personally I pray war doesn't happen but if it has to then I would like it to remain only on between artillery, mortars fight or some BrahMos missiles strikes on terrorist hideouts.....

No navy and airforce should be involved as ot will spread the war further......

We will be able to see the performance of our M777 artillery and homemade ATAGS this way....
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The reasons Pakistani members are mentioned that is because Indians are talking about waging a water war, to commit genocide of Pakistanis. It's easy to act all educated but on purpose ignoring Indians comments and shifting the blame on Pakistanis only works in small minded brains. India also made threats to bomb Pakistan and threats of invasion and now your backtracking and claiming Indians are talking about peace. What an delusional mindset.
 
Sharma Ji said:
Ok, I just googled that exact phrase, verbatim.

Here is what Google said:

India's nuclear policy, rooted in the doctrine of "No First Use," aims to maintain a credible minimum deterrent while promoting global nuclear disarmament. It emphasizes non-use of nuclear weapons against non-nuclear weapon states and a commitment to a nuclear-free world through verifiable and non-discriminatory disarmament
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Deception

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India’s no-first-use dilemma: Strategic consistency or ambiguity towards China and Pakistan

On 14 October 2020, in a statement to the Conference on Disarmament, Indian ambassador, Pankaj Sharma, reiterated India’s commitment to a policy of no first use (NFU) of nuclear weapons.
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India’s Nuclear Anxieties: The Debate Over Doctrine | Arms Control Association

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In 2020 India change the policy
 
Sharma Ji said:
Nonsense, 30 odd killed, even if in a brutal ISIS style terror attack.. is not nearly enough reason for firing off nukes.

What a dumb thing to say.
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But it is a reason to starve hundreds of millions by removing their river?
 
HRK said:
Deception

www.sipri.org

India’s no-first-use dilemma: Strategic consistency or ambiguity towards China and Pakistan

On 14 October 2020, in a statement to the Conference on Disarmament, Indian ambassador, Pankaj Sharma, reiterated India’s commitment to a policy of no first use (NFU) of nuclear weapons.
www.sipri.org www.sipri.org

India’s Nuclear Anxieties: The Debate Over Doctrine | Arms Control Association

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In 2020 India change the policy
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Its just a debate, as it stand now, India maintain their NFU.

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Pakistan’s First-Use Nuclear Policy in Conflicts with India

Tensions between India and Pakistan have escalated following terrorist attacks in Indian-controlled Kashmir that killed 28 civilians. India accuses Pakistan of sponsoring these attacks, threatening se...
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pib.gov.in

Uniqueness of India’s nuclear trajectory premised on the principle of ‘No First Use & Massive Retaliation’: CDS Gen Anil Chauhan

Chief of Defence Staff General Anil Chauhan has reiterated that the uniqueness of India’s nuclear tr
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