Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

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Khansaheeb said:
The oil needs to be blocked. Turkey and Azerbaijan must stop the supply of oil. Arab countries must stop flights to Israel.
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The oild should be blocked a year ago. Aliyev is making big money out of it and Erdogan is allowing it.

Without this oil, Israel is forced to buy more expansiver oil from other countries.

Here the AKP spokeswoman says before the Parliament that the oil is not going directly from Turkey to Israel, but that Azerbaijan is using Western firms as middleman in the ports.

She says that Turkey only charges 1,20 USD per barrel, so Turkey doesnt make big money anyway. Its Azerbaijan who made the most money.

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Arab nations must unite else they will be completely colonised. Here is the analysis:

1. Ground Engagement in Gaza:
Israel is in trouble, full IDF ground invasion in Gaza is drawing significant resources, ammunition and manpower into dense urban warfare—which favours Palestinian resistance defenders and insurgents. With the IDF bogged down in Gaza an Egyptian offensive could encircle entrap a huge number of IDF soldiers with the possibility of IDF surrender. The longer the Palestinians hold out the more demoralized and depleted the Israelis get:
  • Exhaust supplies and logistics.
  • Increase Israeli military casualties.
  • Heighten US and UK public scrutiny and domestic political pressure.
  • Reduce flexibility for responding to threats elsewhere.
The attack by the Houthies on Ben Gurion airport is already having substantial economic impact on Israel and undermining investments in the country.

2. Northern Front (Lebanon/Hezbollah):
Hezbollah could use this moment as an opportunity to re-open a second front. With its arsenal of tens of thousands of rockets, it could:
  • Overwhelm Israel’s Iron Dome defenses through saturation attacks.
  • Force the IDF to redeploy troops and resources northward.
  • Increase the risk of an all-out regional conflict.
3. Syrian Theater:
If Syria can rapidly rearm and reorganise with the help of Muslim nations it would be in its interest to intervene directly sooner than later with a direct focus to regain the Golan heights. This could create the Afghan moment for Syria where a call to arms had drawn in disparate Jihadis and Mujahedeen from around the globe. WIth mass unemployement and angry youth the new Syrian rulers have plenty of youth to use.

4. Economic & Maritime Pressure (Turkey/Egypt):
If Turkey, Morocco , Algeria and Egypt aligned to disrupt and block key maritime trade routes (e.g., Mediterranean sea via Suez or regional ports), Israel—highly dependent on maritime imports and exports—could face:
  • Critical supply shortages.
  • Energy disruption.
  • Economic destabilization, especially if compounded by international sanctions.
5. Jordan’s Position:
Jordan acts as a buffer and has maintained peace with Israel since 1994. However, rising domestic unrest over Gaza can:

Undermine internal stability.
  • Push Amman into a more critical posture diplomatically.
  • Allow transnational actors more influence within its borders.

Jordan's neutrality will be the cause of it's demise in the future as it will be absorbed as part of greater Israel. It would be extremely foolish of the Jordanians to believe they will be spared or that they can wait to fight another day. Jordan must fight today as tomorrow they may have to fight alone against an even more emboldened and formidable enemy.

6. International Intervention (US/UK):
The only military check to this scenario would be U.S. or UK intervention. But large-scale Western deployment is increasingly politically difficult as their is huge opposition and disgust at the genocide of the Palestinians. If they refrain, Israel could hypothetically face isolation, dependent mostly on its internal capabilities.

7. Psychological and Information Warfare:
Growing media coverage and international outcry is amplifying internal dissent in Israel and within allied nations, fueling global protest movements, consumer boycotts, and creating diplomatic ruptures (e.g., withdrawal of ambassadors). As the genocidal atrocities are publicised the global outcry will lead to action.
 
Indos said:
I dont understand with this, look like made by an Indian

I think we should use better source for this like published by institution like Harvard etc

I would say culture is also influenced by religion and Muslim countries so far still use its religion, unlike Westerned world that already pretty liberal with free sex and spread of homo sexuality

Just see the women cloth, we can see Muslim countries getting more conservatives while western world getting more liberal

We can predict what will likely be the outcome for the future by seeing the trend that is going on
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Many of these countries see themselves first as Arab countries. While Islam is a major influence, it seems many Arab countries are focusing on their Arab identity over the Islamic identity. Sure I could have used a better source, but the shame/guilt divide would probably come up from a Harvard source as well as most others.
 
FuturePAF said:
Many of these countries see themselves first as Arab countries. While Islam is a major influence, it seems many Arab countries are focusing on their Arab identity over the Islamic identity. Sure I could have used a better source, but the shame/guilt divide would probably come up from a Harvard source as well as most others.
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Thanks for the explanation

Can I see the real source as I am not really convinced with the Indian publication posting the map
 
Indos said:
Thanks for the explanation

Can I see the real source as I am not really convinced with the Indian publication posting the map
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I think it was just outsourced to them to make the graphic.
 
FuturePAF said:
It’s not about religion so much anymore, as much as it is about ethnicity. Most of the comments you quoted mention the Arab ethnicity, not the religion.
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Yes, but the Arab ethnicity is not enough to explain; the sectarian divide is, however.

Hizbollah and Houthis are Shias. The Palestinians are Sunni, but are treated as being on the same side as those two groups by virtue of similar their association with Iran, not only by the Arab countries but by their people at large too. Otherwise, we would see large scale demonstrations and we do not. Claims of suppression are not enough to explain the deafening silence, despite claims to the contrary.

(This reminds me of similar claims of widespread support for IK when the public clearly has not come out in any large numbers to support him. Claims are just that; actual evidence beats claims anytime.)

The Palestinians clearly need to rethink their entire strategy for the present conflict for sure, it seems to me. Whether they do it or not is up to them, of course.

FuturePAF said:
The Arab people are being publicly humiliated, for all the world to see. They may not be able to do anything, but they do hold the resentment of being subjugated. It’s a shame thing, and in a shame based culture the regain honor the insult can fester under the surface of normal living, for years if not decades.
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That may be true, but unless they actually do something to channel this sense of humiliation as you describe it into something tangible, it will remain utterly useless as an agent of change.
 
VCheng said:
Yes, but the Arab ethnicity is not enough to explain; the sectarian divide is, however.

Hizbollah and Houthis are Shias. The Palestinians are Sunni, but are treated as being on the same side as those two groups by virtue of similar their association with Iran, not only by the Arab countries but by their people at large too. Otherwise, we would see large scale demonstrations and we do not. Claims of suppression are not enough to explain the deafening silence, despite claims to the contrary.
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I agree but who abandoned the Sunni Palestinians and who never gave the Palestinians a alternative pathway or choice

did the Sunni Arabs offer any alternative path other than violence ? did they come up with any better options for the Gaza ?

when you make non resistance impossible you make violent resistance inevitable

the first intifada was non violent what did that get the Palestinians?

did Arab states offer any better solutions and when Gaza is drowning in their own blood asking for help the coward Arabs stand their with their arms folded and say "Oh you asked Iran for help they are Shia now you have upset us "

well what alternative pathway did Arab states offer the Palestinians

if you did not you have no right to question
 
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