Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates

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Okay this is not the thread topic at all but you guys just won't stop with it .. Will of Pakistanis ? You mean 31.22% of the popular vote in 2018 is will of ALL Pakistanis ? then what was the 32.77% popular vote that NS got in 2013 ? Half the people on this Forum alone hate IK as establishment's biggest blunder, let alone the rest of Pakistanis. IK was the biggest undisputed stooge of establishment himself from the day he started until the day he went down and he will again be, if they return him to power, 100% guaranteed ! There is no need for any other stooge in his presence. Anyway, all I'm saying is not to bring that person again and again indirectly or directly, we are all getting sick of it. this thread is for another topic to leave it for that. I'm not gonna reply to you on this topic. I'll ignore him being mentioned from here onwards.
Sir with all due respect, you are one delusional bloody fool, your justifications with false pretext like pakistan's forefathers has led to the demise of Pakistan. live in your world. you are on ignore list, i do not interact with people who support the corrupt...
 
There is a lot more than meets the eye. did anyone expect Trump to jump into North Korea suddenly one day ? Did anyone expect Trump to praise Pakistan days after he royally insulted Ukraine and the Europe ? The guy is really unpredictable and great at giving surprises. And its not from the US, one of your own retired Generals has claimed this as well. So lets wait and see.
The problem is Xi and Chinese gov won't negotiate or deal with Trump and his gov easily. China has learned its lesson dealing with him in his first term. He can make claims all he wants from day to day.
 
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I think an advisory for Pakistan has already been issued. So far as residents are concerned both in India and Pakistan the lack of public awareness of Civil Defense is woefully inadequate. No one knows how to acquire wind-up emergency radios keeping the faith in the ubiquitous smart phones which will be useless in the event of a nuclear attack

Why do you want foreigners to get killed in nuclear war? Issue warning for them to leave now. Lets see how serious India is.
 
@Duffers go to Barracks! ,

In this situation where water of Chenab and Jehlum has been taken away from Pakistan, only Imran khan can unify the country and lead successful defeat of India, where as existing duffers and political elite of Pakistan will bend backwards and show behind to pakistanis and run to western world. After all, they all retire and live in the west after syphoning pakistan
 
Why do you want foreigners to get killed in nuclear war? Issue warning for them to leave now. Lets see how serious India is.
For the record, I am against all wars, all loss of life. I was merely reporting on unconfirmed reports of advisories on travel to Pakistan, and I apologize I did not post a verifiable link. I withdraw my post. Nonetheless, I believe we are diverting from the original purpose of my post which was only to generate an awareness of the precautions ( long established in most countries) needed to survive a possible nuclear war.
 
Cheen, Amrika and the goras.. ain't nobody jumping into here.

Gaza ka dekho, actual horrible massacre.. ek Arbi nahi aaya, and we talking about the Ummah here, not some lowly earthly treaty peaty like NATO.

Koi ni aane wala here.

Just a lot of posturing, a limited skirmish, if that at all, is the max we can hope to see here.

Why Indians are doing randi rona all over the world for help? From jaishankar to your media high profile lot, it's rather embarrassing. Let's man up and dance. You lot invited us to party, here we are, let the party begin?
 
You can never trust Trump's US though. There is talk that Trump and Xi are planning a meetup at a high profile event that is in the works, on their joint birthdays at 14th / 15th June. Where North Korea might also join and Xi might sway Trump on his side relating to geopolitics, by agreeing for a good Tariff Deal. If Trump gets that Tariff deal form China, India will be completely left out in the waters unwanted by anyone. China's economy, market, manufacturing and skill base all will be far more valuable for the US, compared to India's.
The American economy may enter a technical 'recession' if another quarter of bad economy continues, so wouldn't surprise me if Trump makes a deal. Our Emperor Trump can do whatever he wants to.
Many Western analysts are also really spooked by India's assassination plots in US and Canada. I heard an interview of a congressman who said China for al its competition with the US, has never done anything like political assassinations in the North America and this fact alone is raising high concerns about letting India get too close. One can see the way Trump govt is refusing to take a side against Pakistan and get an iidea where the things are heading.
Bolded part: India's historic blunder and it got a lot of bad press in the West. India tried to ape Israel a little too much. LOL!

The problem is Xi and Chinese gov won't negotiate or deal with Trump and his gov easily. China has learned its lesson dealing with him in his first term. He can make claims all he wants from day to day.

Xi probably knows that rewarding a bully like Trump would be asking for more punitive actions by Trump. But I think they can find a middle ground: Americans are starting to hurt and there may come a breaking point against Trump.
 
.. Will of Pakistanis ? You mean 31.22% of the popular vote in 2018 is will of ALL Pakistanis ? then what was the 32.77% popular vote that NS got in 2013 ? ...

It’s almost impressive how confidently you speak about democracy while knowing absolutely nothing about it. Did you skip every civics class, or is this willful ignorance a point of pride?
 
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Indians believe nucelar war is bluff. Its understable for a nation that believe nuclear weapons were used in Mahabharat.
 
@Duffers go to Barracks! ,

In this situation where water of Chenab and Jehlum has been taken away from Pakistan, only Imran khan can unify the country and lead successful defeat of India, where as existing duffers and political elite of Pakistan will bend backwards and show behind to pakistanis and run to western world. After all, they all retire and live in the west after syphoning pakistan

Hope Pakistan will get genuine leadership. But, I don't have high hopes on IK's come back soon, current fascist govt has done unimaginable injustices to him and they won't let him out in fear of him. (or pay back).

For any leadership, the moral authority is the key. Your decisions cannot have weight if your nation hasn't put trust on you.

Pakistan will prevail eventually IA. I am afraid, Its a long and painful journey.
 
Well buddy, Nation's Mandate has been destroyed 12 times since Pakistan was formed. We have all suffered through this, but the rest of us understand that democracy takes time to develop and we do not start running amok on a rampage for an instant justice, shouting against our country and our army. The problem arises when you think one person is extra special than all else just because he is your leader and nobody else deserves anything because they are inherently wrong. That is not democracy but one-sided fascism. Many others got similar or even higher mandates in the past and were all thrown out similarly and at two occasions IK was himself an accomplice to it. History did not start in 2022. What you are feeling now was also felt by the other half of the country during 2018-2022 era. We all live through it and work for our country though, not against it. that's all. hope you understand.

That argument isn’t just idiotic—it’s criminally vile ..... Justifying today’s barbarity by pointing to yesterday’s horrors doesn’t make you insightful, it makes you complicit. It’s not continuity, it’s degeneration.... Claiming that a crime is somehow justified today simply because it’s happened before is not only twisted logic, but a staggering display of hypocrisy....

And spare us the false equivalence, the sheer scale of brutality unleashed on unarmed civilians today hasn’t been witnessed since 1971....
 
The way India and Pakistan wage 'war' against each other is like Desis fighting on the streets with each other, which resembles girly ways. Looks like a combination of 'Kushti' and 'Kabbadi'. LOL! And that's for the better: Less bloodshed, less historic baggage, and more chances for eventual rapprochement.
The way the Europeans wage war is on an altogether different scale! Total War. "Barbarism" would be apt word for them.
Agreed. War in Europe can be very brutal or get out of hand.
 
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48 ka badla, angry tribals wala game we played..

Tsk tsk Sharma bhai.

You forget I know you well from a previous avatar.

The moment any fraudus attempt to initiate the historical timeline from a fraudulent position, you will be called out and without hesitation.


Hari Singh, chieftain of erstwhile J&K state within British India, initiated pogroms against Muslims in Jammu region in 1947, BEFORE any armed hostilities occurred between India and Pakistan. This is why the "angry tribals" attacked when the same was attempted in Kashmir region. The pogroms of Jammu resulted in actual demographic alteration of the muslim-hindu proportions compared with the previous distribution. Hari Singh needed to enable this barbaric methodology to facilitate his preferred outcome viz Instrument of Accession for the entire J&K state.

As has been clarified many times in the past for those among our eastern neighbours who seem to have gaping holes in their history textbooks, we are more than happy to provide remedial education in this specific regard.

@Musings false narratives regarding established historical events should not be perpetuated in this forum.
 
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