Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Gotta feel sorry for the Viper pilots, imagine being a young man, dreaming of being a PAF pilot, making it to the F-16 squadrons then missing out in one of the most glorious days in PAF's history.

That has to suck.....

F16s have sentimental value, they had their glory during swift retort. Now they are point defence fighters. Tip of spear is now J10/Jf17 combo.
 
One thing that is good is Pakistan got on the front foot very early on PR wise. Right now no one is talking of IAF. World media just reporting Pakistani claims, so narrative is on our side this time, also silence by IAF for this long is deafening. Many suspect they are busy conjuring up a story but video and pic evidence will make it very hard for them
 
The downing of Indian fighter jets was just the beginning, a justified act of self-defense. Now, it’s our turn. No more warnings, no more restraint. We will strike not just where it hurts, but where it cripples—military bases, strategic assets, even dams. Let India wait and watch as Pakistan delivers its response with fire and fury. This time, the lesson will be unforgettable ...

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Btw, a major French military channel has commented on the Rafale crashes claim. There are English subtitles. Summary: we will have to wait a few days to see if they crashed or were shot down, and what that means about our tech. We don’t sell downgraded versions for export. Pakistan and Türkiye have trained with Qatari Rafales and the Chinese have experience with the UAEAF at Hotan with their Mirage 2000-9.

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well, J10C scored a kill or even multiple kills, this is all we know right now, maybe Rafale can prove herself somewhere else by scoring an aerial kill, that is another case.
Bro,it won't help if a weapon is modern and high-tech if the pilot or doctrine can't use it well. Same thing with ships. You can lock enemies,you can do this,you can do that,but if you don't know how,when and what tactics to use,it's useless.

Imagine choosing the best team in a soccer video-game,but you're still a mediocre soccer gamer. Is it Ronaldo's fault for not scoring or your fingers? :P
 
Indian air force was questionable, so there is high probability they carry new operations to answer the situation....

The biggest foreign loser is France
 
Enemy destroying sanctity of the nation state and our borders. Its absolutely tarnishing the sovereign state that enemy comes and murder your citizens in front of whole world. and you want to know pride ???? ARE YOU SERIOUS ??

PAKISTAN will never be able to restore our pride if we are unable to strike deep inside india in the same manner they did. Its not even difficult to understand!


Then I question the quality of your instincts and thinking, and their relevance

We have to discern between good and bad, stupid and not stupid



Iffff paf literally achieved wins and psychological dominance over the aggressor that's nothing?

No one's perception of pride should be dominating a far wider issue, so please restrain, everyone and everyone here should know knee jerk emotional responses get you nowhere

Who says there won't be a response?

In this regard the Indian population are far far more attuned to their national strategy, they just adjust to the message like that 😂

I mean this is in good spirits
 

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