Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

You don't know the level of foolishness and arrogance of my countrymen ....

For years I suggested to try and get license production of JF17 for Iran , they simply mocked me ... or just buy 100 j10-c to act as replacement for F5s but ...

now with these new development, the west will do anything to stop Iran from getting Jf17 or Chinese jets
What happened to your Su-35s?
 
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In all of this, lets not forget the utter a**beating that our Army is delivering to Indians at the LOC. Three white flags as of current count
 
Whole india and entire indian media is gone crazy in jubilation, celebrations and they are going almost crazy in praising Modi.

Hope we retaliate soon to give them a reality check!

Stop following those low IQ fools. They even today believe that Abhinandan shot down a PAF F16

Retaliations would surely happen and we all know that
 
yes- however it would be disingenuous to suggest that PAF training/tactics is not based off of the western ways
I will give credit to the Americans in the 50s for that but not the French. French can teach you to fly but they rarely train you on tactics. This is one of the reasons I am happy that IAF never went for an American platform.
 
Malaka I'm not an Indian to say that J-10 is garbage nor did I claim that Rafale is untouchable. Remember how they boasted about the Su-30 a few years ago? It was the superweapon. Then their new superweapon was Rafale. Then it was Tejas.
Every 10 years the Indians have a new superweapon.
Relax, no one's hating.
 
It sure is very big stuff,like you said. We rarely have air-to-air combat anymore. We mostly have modern air forces bombing terrorists and militias. We also had 30 years of Greek and Turkish air forces in mock dogfights that sometimes unfortunately turned very real.

I wonder,didn't the French think of their reputation when they were selling the Rafale to the Indians? Yes,there was A LOT of money involved,they needed to boost sales,but look at this now. The IAF's bad record should have told them something.

The reality is- i dont think it was necessarily the sale of the rafale to India that was the issue- rather, the underestimation of Chinese equiptment.

For some reason- everyone tends to see the Chinese from the soviet angle, big bark, but no bite. Another F-15 vs MIG 25 saga.

The reality was, what me and many have been saying is, the Chinese defence industry had made serious gains as a result of their civilian sector and absorption of technology from ventures.

It was not the failure of the Rafale, rather, the failure of the training and tactics, but also, the serious under estimation of the capabilities of the PAF and also its equiptment. By every assessment, everyone has pinned the PAF as a top tier force in terms of trainings and standards, but everyone seems to think haha chinese plane crap
 
It sure is very big stuff,like you said. We rarely have air-to-air combat anymore. We mostly have modern air forces bombing terrorists and militias. We also had 30 years of Greek and Turkish air forces in mock dogfights that sometimes unfortunately turned very real.

I wonder,didn't the French think of their reputation when they were selling the Rafale to the Indians? Yes,there was A LOT of money involved,they needed to boost sales,but look at this now. The IAF's bad record should have told them something.

Euros outweigh reputation
 
AND ENOUGH OF THIS RESTRAINT RESTRAINT RESTRAINT. WHEN THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOOT DOWN 10 INDIAN JETS, THEY SHOULD HAVE TAKEN THE OPPORTUNITY. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS CONSTANT RESTRAINT. THEY ARE THE AGGRESSOR SO FCUK THEM!!!!

I won’t even share some of the memes made by people from other countries. They think of Pakistanis and Indians as the same thing and laugh at them both. Both have pansy, gay publics whose idea of a war is slapping each other and declaring victory.

Wars here are fought in the media.
 
AND ENOUGH OF THIS RESTRAINT RESTRAINT RESTRAINT. WHEN THEY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOOT DOWN 10 INDIAN JETS, THEY SHOULD HAVE TAKEN THE OPPORTUNITY. I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS CONSTANT RESTRAINT. THEY ARE THE AGGRESSOR SO FCUK THEM!!!!
they probably feared ambush, but from what I understand the indian air force just don't have this level of technical and commanding capabilities...

If this drags , probably Israelis and french officers will be send to India to advise them ( take command )
 
PL15E images from india has started to appear guys. 2 PL15E debris found by indians


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